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to oneyes:
哥们，大过年的你要为dos888辩护翻案没关系，可也不能凭空污人的清白呀，俺的名号是tdj，不是TNT。感觉上怎么把在下形容成了易燃易爆物品啦。
嘿嘿……开个玩笑。现在是在水区，和你多聊几句没关系。你看注册时间就可以知道，小弟也是刚来的，之所以留在这里，除了想学学知识长点见识外，还有就是论坛很有特点，学术气氛很浓，几位斑竹也很有魅力，心里很佩服。
你在贴中对dos888的评语小弟并不同意，你仔细看一看dos888的帖子就能发现，垃圾一堆，连想都不想就振臂一呼，1、研发中国完全自主的操作系统。2、放弃dos。3、软件探索无用。更何况是以那种态度。说穿了不过是想利用各位网友一种内心的渴望和对dos思维定式来打击别人抬高自己，以显示自己的高明。对于这种人物，和他摆事实讲道理如同对牛弹琴，没有用的。只能是以毒攻毒，当头棒喝。不信你可以看看llm的帖子，虽然每帖都是寥寥数语，但都命中要害，不过有用吗？
在论坛注册之后，和别人斗过两次嘴，一次是对dos888，另一次是和一个叫征服则的家伙，不过从性质上来说都是“卫国战争”，不是“正当防卫”。我想这至少可以说明，在下不想为自己的私人名誉去扔砖，制造垃圾。所以别对在下抱有成见。顺便提醒一句，仔细看帖就可以发现，坛子里真的藏龙卧虎，小心言行有好处。另外，主帖越靠后含金量越大，把论坛的帖子倒着翻.
to oneyes:
Dude, it's fine that you're defending and rehabilitating DOS888 during the Lunar New Year, but you can't slander someone's innocence out of thin air. My name is tdj, not TNT. It feels like I've been described as a flammable and explosive item.
Hehe... Just kidding. Now we're in the water area, and it's okay to chat with you more. You can see from the registration time that I'm just new here. The reason I stay here is that besides wanting to learn knowledge and gain insights, the forum has distinctive features, a strong academic atmosphere, and the several moderators are very charming, so I really admire them.
I don't agree with your comments on DOS888 in the post. If you take a close look at DOS888's posts, you'll find a pile of garbage. He just raises his arm without thinking and cries out, 1. Develop a completely independent Chinese operating system. 2. Abandon DOS. 3. Software exploration is useless. Moreover, with that kind of attitude. To put it bluntly, he just wants to take advantage of everyone's inner longing and the fixed mindset about DOS to attack others and elevate himself to show his own superiority. For such a person, reasoning with facts and principles is like casting pearls before swine, which is useless. We can only fight fire with fire and give a wake-up call. Don't believe it? You can take a look at llm's posts. Although each post is just a few words, they hit the nail on the head. But is it useful?
After registering in the forum, I've had two arguments with others, one with DOS888 and the other with a guy named Conqueror. But in nature, both are "defensive wars", not "justifiable defenses". I think this at least shows that I don't want to throw bricks and create garbage for my own personal reputation. So don't have a prejudice against me. By the way, remind you carefully that you can find that there are really hidden dragons and crouching tigers in the forum. It's good to be careful with your words and deeds. Also, the later the main post is, the greater the gold content. Flip the forum posts backwards.
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以下是引用ko20010214在2004-1-22 10:01:47的发言：
oneyes说的也不错。
tdj的反击非常厉害，但有点过分，我并不赞同这样回复。
我之所以把这贴转到灌水区来，一是tdj有这个提议，二是我觉得还是把这贴当作是灌水比较好。tdj的讽刺真是用得绝了，作为纯粹从文字功底上来看，是值得一看的。但这样反击dos888，我觉得不太好。所以，看开点。把这当灌水贴就行了。。。
至于说开发一个newDOS,我想并不是很容易的事，太遥远了，不谈也罢，谈亦是空谈。
记住“空谈误国”这四个字吧。
to ko版主:
版主大人英明！！！不过可不可以手下超生网开一面，在下愚见，gotomsdos的帖子实在是精品，文笔和看问题的视角都堪称一绝，这样在水区里沉了太可惜了，可不可以单独编辑一下，重新加一个主题，由gotomsdos补充一下，转移到其它区，最好是精华区。论坛真的很需要这样的好文章。拜托！！拜托！！
The following is the statement by ko20010214 on January 22, 2004 at 10:01:47:
What oneyes said is also not bad.
tdj's counterattack is very powerful, but a bit excessive, and I do not agree with such a reply.
The reason why I transferred this post to the water-cooling area is that first, tdj made this proposal, and second, I think it is better to treat this post as water-cooling. tdj's irony is really excellent. As far as pure text skills are concerned, it is worth reading. But I think it is not good to counterattack dos888 like this. So, take it easy. Just treat it as a water-cooling post...
As for developing a new DOS, I think it is not very easy, it is too far away, let's not talk about it, talking is also empty talk.
Remember the four characters "Empty talk harms the country".
To version master ko:
Master version is英明！！！But can you show mercy and give me a break? In my humble opinion, the post of gotomsdos is really a masterpiece, both in writing style and perspective of looking at problems, which is unique. It's a pity to sink it in the water-cooling area. Can you edit it separately, add a new theme, and let gotomsdos supplement it, and transfer it to other areas, preferably the essence area. The forum really needs such a good article. Please! Please!
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以下是引用roy在2004-1-22 14:12:08的发言：
以下是引用Dark-Destroy在2003-12-31 14:49:35的发言：
呵呵..我在來說兩句....
DOS究竟有沒有用,會不會淘汰,大家可以去問問寫過軔體的人就知道了~
而樓主說的,要開發自主的OS,這檔事不是沒人做過,但最後也不了了之,為啥會這樣,大家一定都明白的~
繼續灌一下....
「DOS究竟有沒有用,會不會淘汰,大家可以去問問寫過軔體的人就知道了~」
^-- 傳說中Bill老鬼就是用CP/M來把86-DOS改寫成MS-DOS了...這招的名字叫Cross-Assembling,Cross-Linking
而BIOS編程和Firmware編程也是如此
我自己也試過在DOS下Cross-Assembling,把8051 Assembly程序寫到8051晶片中呢
「開發自主的OS,這檔事不是沒人做過」 <--例子多不勝數,如:
ReactOS
MenuetOS
PDOS (是Public Domain OS,不是簡體中文版的DOS啊)
RMF-DOS
RxDOS
而綠色字的是停止開發的OS
還有一個是中國開發的，叫E什麼的(我忘掉全名了...汗....)，知道的人告知一下吧，謝謝
There is also one developed in China, called E something (I forgot the full name... sweat....) If anyone knows, please let me know, thank you
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以下是引用tdj在2004-1-22 16:05:04的发言：
to ko版主:
版主大人英明！！！不过可不可以手下超生网开一面，在下愚见，gotomsdos的帖子实在是精品，文笔和看问题的视角都堪称一绝，这样在水区里沉了太可惜了，可不可以单独编辑一下，重新加一个主题，由gotomsdos补充一下，转移到其它区，最好是精华区。论坛真的很需要这样的好文章。拜托！！拜托！！
不用拍我。我习惯被人拍砖，而不习惯被人拍。
我把它移到水区的时候已经把gotomsdos那一张贴设置为精华了。
大家也应该习惯在各个区的精华栏里找精华贴，而不是专门跑到精华区里去找。
The following is the statement made by tdj on 2004-1-22 16:05:04:
to Mr. Ko, moderator:
Respected moderator, you are英明！！！ But can you be a bit more lenient? In my humble opinion, the post by gotomsdos is really a masterpiece, with excellent writing style and unique perspective on issues. It's a pity to let it sink in the water area. Can you separately edit it, create a new topic, and let gotomsdos supplement it, then move it to another area, preferably the essence area. The forum really needs such good articles. Please! Please!
Don't pat me. I'm used to being flamed, but not to being patted.
I had already set the post by gotomsdos as an essence when I moved it to the water area.
Everyone should also get used to finding essence posts in the essence columns of each area, not specifically running to the essence area to look for them.
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哼哼…………！这回看到了，是口水精华区！口水精华？？？
Hehehheh……! I see now, it's the Water Talk Essence Area! Water Talk Essence???
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大家好！tdj 和斑竹过奖了！尤其是tdj.我自感受宠若惊，只是有感而发，与各位同道随便聊聊，帖子写完后腹中空空如也了，自然谈不上什么补充了，还望各位海涵修正。
很荣幸评为精华，实感愧不敢当，多谢了。至于搬到水区，我无所谓呀，服从斑竹调遣吧！
嘿嘿！感觉tdj嘲讽的骂架挺可爱的！
Hello everyone! tdj and the moderators have overpraised me! Especially tdj. I really feel overwhelmed. It's just that I expressed my feelings and casually chatted with fellow enthusiasts. After finishing the post, I felt empty, so there's naturally nothing to add. I hope you all can bear with and correct it.
It's a great honor to be rated as an essence, but I really feel unworthy. Thank you very much. As for moving to the water area, it's okay with me. I'll obey the moderators' arrangement!
Hehe! I feel that tdj's mocking scolding is quite cute!
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我晕哦，一会儿还要带我的小猫过看看兽医（太热了，好像发高烧），看了这么多的帖子，它也累坏了，也真难为我的小猫和楼主了。
Oh, I'm so dizzy. I still need to take my little cat to see the veterinarian later (it's too hot, it seems to have a high fever). After reading so many posts, it's also tired out. It's really hard on my little cat and the original poster.
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叫我Jorkin或小p就行，别再叫playboy2925了，跟提犯人似的。
如果认为小弟发的logo不错的话，给朵鲜花我就知道了。：）
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以下是引用playboy2925在2004-2-3 21:05:44的发言：
我晕哦，一会儿还要带我的小猫过看看兽医（太热了，好像发高烧），看了这么多的帖子，它也累坏了，也真难为我的小猫和楼主了。
那麼改養大貓吧
The following is a quote from playboy2925 on 2004-2-3 21:05:44:
Oh my god, I have to take my kitten to see the veterinarian later (it's too hot, it seems to have a high fever). After reading so many posts, it's also tired out. It's really hard for my kitten and the poster.
Then raise a big cat
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Dear All,
Let me talk a little bit about my opinion on whether:
1. DOS is useful or not
2. the development of another OS
gotomsdos has distinguished DOS as a Command Line Interface and Windows as Graphical User Interface.
Linux also has command line interface similar to the DOS prompt and a number of nice Graphical User Interface.
A sophisticated OS offers GUI in addition to CLI. GUI achieves something more than CLI but builds upon CLI.
So an OS is only a collection of programmes or computer instructions. And we have terms:
BIOS -- on motherboard
ROMBIOS -- on various add-on cards
PreOS -- PXE, etherboot, netboot, rpl, etc. (WinPE?)
DOS -- CLI OS on disk -- OS without GUI
GUI -- Windows, Linux Gnome, KDE, BeOS, etc.
So to build our own OS, the development will be:
BIOS+ROMBIOS+PreOS+DOS+GUI
In this sense, DOS is only part of the whole chain.
In this broad sense, DOS or CLI really never dies.
Dear All,
Let me talk a little bit about my opinion on whether:
1. DOS is useful or not
2. the development of another OS
gotomsdos has distinguished DOS as a Command Line Interface and Windows as Graphical User Interface.
Linux also has command line interface similar to the DOS prompt and a number of nice Graphical User Interface.
A sophisticated OS offers GUI in addition to CLI. GUI achieves something more than CLI but builds upon CLI.
So an OS is only a collection of programmes or computer instructions. And we have terms:
BIOS -- on motherboard
ROMBIOS -- on various add-on cards
PreOS -- PXE, etherboot, netboot, rpl, etc. (WinPE?)
DOS -- CLI OS on disk -- OS without GUI
GUI -- Windows, Linux Gnome, KDE, BeOS, etc.
So to build our own OS, the development will be:
BIOS+ROMBIOS+PreOS+DOS+GUI
In this sense, DOS is only part of the whole chain.
In this broad sense, DOS or CLI really never dies.
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Also, WinPE is a half GUI and CLI and NT based OS has a hidden CLI(not cmd.exe/wmic),recovery console,and you will discover it while NT is checking your drives in starting up process.
另外，WinPE是半图形界面和命令行界面的、基于NT的操作系统，有一个隐藏的命令行（不是cmd.exe/ WMIc）、恢复控制台，并且你会在NT启动过程中检查驱动器时发现它。
（注：原句已为英文，所以直接输出英文内容）Also, WinPE is a half GUI and CLI and NT based OS has a hidden CLI(not cmd.exe/wmic),recovery console,and you will discover it while NT is checking your drives in starting up process.
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以下是引用roy在2004-2-4 18:49:25的发言：
Also, WinPE is a half GUI and CLI and NT based OS has a hidden CLI(not cmd.exe/wmic),recovery console,and you will discover it while NT is checking your drives in starting up process.
Dear Roy,
That is why I put a ? after WINPE. PE stands for pre-execution or something like that.
The following is the speech of roy on 2004-2-4 18:49:25
Also, WinPE is a half GUI and CLI and NT based OS has a hidden CLI (not cmd.exe/wmic), recovery console, and you will discover it while NT is checking your drives in the starting up process.
Dear Roy,
That is why I put a ? after WINPE. PE stands for pre-execution or something like that.
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