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一口气看下来，感觉站长真的很敬业，几乎是每帖必复，佩服之余崇敬有加！
学识很渊博，这决定了本站的访问量！
接触DOS时间不到两年，最近才有些迷恋上它。闲暇时来看看，感觉到一种力量！
谢谢各位的奉献！你们的举动将使大家受益终身！！
Reading it all in one go, I feel that the webmaster is really dedicated. He almost replies to every post. I admire and respect him!
The knowledge is very extensive, which determines the visit volume of this site!
I have been in contact with DOS for less than two years, and I just started to be infatuated with it recently. I come to take a look in my spare time and feel a kind of power!
Thank you all for your contributions! Your actions will benefit everyone for life!!
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andychau
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急！
没有软盘怎么办啊！
在线等！
Urgent!
What to do if there are no floppy disks!
Waiting online!
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X-X-X
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我用的是XP,C盘是NTFS格式,看来还得转换……
I'm using XP, and the C drive is in NTFS format. It seems I still need to convert it...
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Wengier
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以下是引用andychau在2004-3-21 0:07:24的发言：
急！
没有软盘怎么办啊！
在线等！
没有软盘又有什么关系，即使没有软盘，有硬盘或光盘也可以。你看过这篇文章吗：
http://newdos.yginfo.net/dosart32.htm
The following is the speech of andychau on 2004-3-21 0:07:24:
Urgent!
What should I do without a floppy disk!
Waiting online!
What does it matter if there is no floppy disk? Even without a floppy disk, you can use a hard disk or a CD-ROM. Have you read this article:
http://newdos.yginfo.net/dosart32.htm
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Wengier - 新DOS时代
欢迎大家来到我的“新DOS时代”网站，里面有各类DOS软件和资料，地址：
http://wendos.mycool.net/
E-Mail & MSN: wengierwu AT hotmail.com （最近比较忙，有事请联系DOSroot和雨露，谢谢！）
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mudtoast
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wohucanglo
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超级版主：我想我是一个刚刚入门级的DOS爱好者！很想和你们学习！
请问怎么才能学好呢？我用unformat 时为什么不能用呢？请赐教！谢谢！！！
Super Moderator: I think I'm just a novice DOS enthusiast! I really want to learn from you!
May I ask how to learn it well? Why can't I use unformat when I use it? Please give me your advice! Thank you!!!
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wphs0326
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以下是引用Wengier在2003-10-18 21:06:21的发言：
以下是引用聆听在2003-10-18 17:51:23的发言：
我是XP、ntfs用户,下载了DOS7。1的光盘版，刻到光盘后，光驱启动，按SETUP。BAT，到选同意，不同意那版，NEXT后，屏幕说安装不了，意思好象是说FAT不支持什么的。
请指教。
是说DOS必须安装在FAT分区上，而C盘不能是NTFS吧。请先将C盘转为NTFS格式的，或用VFLOPPY。
“请先将C盘转为NTFS格式的”应该为“请先将C盘转为FAT格式的”
The following is the statement quoted by Wengier on 2003-10-18 21:06:21:
The following is the statement quoted by Listening on 2003-10-18 17:51:23:
I am an XP, NTFS user. I downloaded the CD version of DOS7.1, burned it to a CD, booted from the CD drive, pressed SETUP.BAT, and when reaching the part where you choose to agree or not agree, after clicking NEXT, the screen said it couldn't be installed. The meaning seemed to be that FAT didn't support something.
Please give guidance.
It means that DOS must be installed on a FAT partition, and the C drive can't be NTFS. Please first convert the C drive to FAT format, or use VFLOPPY.
"The statement 'Please first convert the C drive to NTFS format' should be 'Please first convert the C drive to FAT format'"
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yanone
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我常期用 DOS 几个月前我使用 MS-DOS 7.10 我可以确定这个软体相容性有问题，
(在某些新旧软体皆会发生问题)，不如 WIN98SE 的 DOS
在此提出各人见解。
I often use DOS. A few months ago, I used MS-DOS 7.10. I can be certain that there are compatibility issues with this software, (it occurs with some old and new software), unlike the DOS in WIN98SE. Here I put forward everyone's opinions.
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Wengier
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yanone：可以看出你没有理解DOS启动盘和DOS完整安装版的区别，几个月前还没有它呢（我知道那个超级MS-DOS 7.10启动盘在一些系统中有些兼容性问题，但那是所加的各种DOS驱动程序的问题，而不是DOS本身的问题；而这个DOS安装版则完全是两回事）。而且要知道，Win98SE中自带的DOS就是个特别版的MS-DOS 7.10。仅从这点就可以看出你的话是自相矛盾。
yanone: It can be seen that you don't understand the difference between a DOS boot disk and a full DOS installation version. It wasn't there a few months ago (I know that the super MS-DOS 7.10 boot disk has some compatibility issues in some systems, but that's a problem with various DOS drivers added, not the problem of DOS itself; and this DOS installation version is completely different). And you should know that the DOS in Win98SE is a special version of MS-DOS 7.10. Just from this point, it can be seen that your words are self-contradictory.
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Wengier - 新DOS时代
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E-Mail & MSN: wengierwu AT hotmail.com （最近比较忙，有事请联系DOSroot和雨露，谢谢！）
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yanone
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也许您应知道 MS-DOS 7.10 启动盘早就在外国网站发布很久了，也许就您所言
(这个DOS安装版则完全是两回事)，但光这两周我来到这网站逛了N次也不死心的下载试了N次，
但还是用回了 Win98SE 的 DOS (我个人也详细看了 MS-DOS 7.10 的程式码)，可确定此 MS-DOS 7.10
绝非 Win98SE 的 DOS (应该是更早期的)。
Maybe you should know that the MS-DOS 7.10 boot disk has been released on foreign websites for a long time. Maybe what you said (this DOS installation version is completely different), but in the past two weeks, I have visited this website many times and tried to download it many times without giving up, but I still went back to the DOS of Win98SE (I also carefully looked at the code of MS-DOS 7.10 personally), and can be sure that this MS-DOS 7.10 is definitely not the DOS of Win98SE (it should be earlier).
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Wengier
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yanone：你应该好好看看论坛中以前的帖子，就知道是怎么回事了。你用的Win98SE的DOS，其实就是特别版的MS-DOS 7.10，跟此MS-DOS 7.10同源。
你说它的兼容性问题是指什么？能举些例子吗？注意：环境一定要相同才行，比如不能一个加载EMM386，而另一个不加载EMM386。
yanone: You should take a good look at the previous posts in the forum to know what's going on. The DOS you're using for Win98SE is actually a special version of MS-DOS 7.10, which is of the same origin as this MS-DOS 7.10.
What do you mean by its compatibility issues? Can you give some examples? Note that the environment must be the same, for example, you can't have one loading EMM386 and the other not loading EMM386.
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Wengier - 新DOS时代
欢迎大家来到我的“新DOS时代”网站，里面有各类DOS软件和资料，地址：
http://wendos.mycool.net/
E-Mail & MSN: wengierwu AT hotmail.com （最近比较忙，有事请联系DOSroot和雨露，谢谢！）
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yanone
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抱歉，我在此是个新手，我要浏览整个网站内容实在要发上一段时间，应该是各人使用环境软体不同，
因此得到的结论也不同，我因个人的须要因此每套我找得到的 DOS 我会不惜时间去测试他，假如有问题
我即会放弃此 DOS 另找新的，现在还要回头去重新找问题实在很懒，不过来到此天地要发言确实也要有
实证，此 MS-DOS 7.10 等我有空我会再回头重新测试我现使用的300个 DOS 软体，到时再确实回应问题，
謝謝指教。
Sorry, I'm a newbie here. It will really take some time for me to browse the entire website content. It should be that everyone's usage environment and software are different, so the conclusions are also different. Because of my personal needs, I will spare no time to test each DOS I can find. If there is a problem, I will give up this DOS and look for a new one. Now I'm really lazy to go back to re-find the problem. But to post here, I really need evidence. I will go back and re-test my current 300 DOS software when I have time, and then respond to the problem accurately. Thanks for the advice.
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Wengier
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以下是引用yanone在2004-4-9 5:07:44的发言：
抱歉，我在此是个新手，我要浏览整个网站内容实在要发上一段时间，应该是各人使用环境软体不同，
因此得到的结论也不同，我因个人的须要因此每套我找得到的 DOS 我会不惜时间去测试他，假如有问题
我即会放弃此 DOS 另找新的，现在还要回头去重新找问题实在很懒，不过来到此天地要发言确实也要有
实证，此 MS-DOS 7.10 等我有空我会再回头重新测试我现使用的300个 DOS 软体，到时再确实回应问题，
謝謝指教。
此DOS安装版安装后，所加载的程序多是DOS自带的，所以兼容性应该是比较好的。不过要注意一下，测试中最好请不要加载某些驱动程序，尤其是注意EMM386和DOSLFN这两个默认安装时会自动加载的驱动程序（当然，它们仍是可选的），否则就无法测出是DOS的问题还是这些辐助的DOS驱动程序的问题了（比如DOSLFN是DOS长文件名驱动程序，但它有时会与某些程序造成冲突，但这显然与DOS本身无关）。欢迎您进行测试，不过测试条件应该相同，否则显然就不公平了。另外有些旧DOS软件本身有些向上兼容性问题（即在比较新的系统中才会发生的问题），如系统中有大内存时无法正常运行等，这也自然是这些旧程序本身的问题而不是DOS的问题了。在测试中也应当考虑到这些因素的。
The following is a quote from yanone on 2004-4-9 5:07:44:
Sorry, I'm a newbie here. It really takes me some time to browse the entire website content. It should be that different people have different usage environments and software, so the conclusions are also different. Because of my personal needs, I will spare no time to test every DOS I can find. If there is a problem, I will give up this DOS and look for a new one. Now it's really lazy to go back to re - find the problem. But to post here, I really need to have evidence. I will come back to re - test my current 300 DOS software when I have time for this MS - DOS 7.10 and so on, and then respond to the problem exactly. Thank you for your advice.
After the installation of this DOS installation version, most of the loaded programs are self - contained in DOS, so the compatibility should be relatively good. But pay attention that in the test, it is best not to load some drivers, especially pay attention to the two drivers EMM386 and DOSLFN which are automatically loaded during the default installation (of course, they are still optional). Otherwise, it will not be possible to determine whether it is a problem of DOS or these auxiliary DOS drivers (for example, DOSLFN is a DOS long - filename driver, but sometimes it will conflict with some programs, but this is obviously not related to DOS itself). You are welcome to test, but the test conditions should be the same, otherwise it is obviously unfair. In addition, some old DOS software itself has some upward compatibility problems (such as problems that occur only in relatively new systems), such as being unable to run normally when there is a large memory in the system, etc. This is naturally a problem of these old programs themselves, not a problem of DOS. These factors should also be considered in the test.
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Wengier - 新DOS时代
欢迎大家来到我的“新DOS时代”网站，里面有各类DOS软件和资料，地址：
http://wendos.mycool.net/
E-Mail & MSN: wengierwu AT hotmail.com （最近比较忙，有事请联系DOSroot和雨露，谢谢！）
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yanone
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我测试每套 DOS 决对是在同环境下，用 FAT16 要转进 FAT32 确实某些旧软体会发生问题
(尤其是挂上 EMM386 的 UMB)，我的认知应该是 FAT32 DOS System内存需求加大的原因?，
但使用 FAT16 的时间太长了实在无法割舍，因此目前还在寻找相容性最佳的 FAT32 DOS，
您是版主吗?，不好意思^_^没看清论坛就向您讨 PC-DOS 7.10 的 SYS.COM，谢谢您 ^_^
I test each set of DOS absolutely under the same environment. When converting from FAT16 to FAT32, indeed some old software will have problems (especially when UMB with EMM386 is mounted). My understanding should be that it is because the memory requirement of the FAT32 DOS System increases? But I have been using FAT16 for too long and really can't give it up. Therefore, I am currently looking for the most compatible FAT32 DOS. Are you the moderator? Sorry ^_^ I didn't read the forum clearly and asked you for the SYS.COM of PC-DOS 7.10. Thank you ^_^
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