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从今天起,所有在 DOS 版块发表非 DOS 问题的主题和回帖将被直接删除,不再转移和提示,而且是扣分后删除!
Starting from today, all threads and replies in the DOS section that are not related to DOS issues will be directly deleted without transfer or notice, and deletion will be followed by deduction of points!
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严重支持。
在dos联盟,很多人DOS,CMD不分的现状,确实很遗憾。
Seriously support.
In the DOS Union, the current situation where many people can't distinguish between DOS and CMD is really regrettable.
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我的帖还在吗 谢谢斑竹复制给我 谢谢了
我不知道情况 来这还不到几天 我去其他地方发 在写一份的却挺累 麻烦了
Is my post still there? Thanks, moderator, please copy it for me. Thanks.
I don't know the situation. I've only been here for less than a few days. I went to post elsewhere, and writing another one is really tiring. It's troublesome.
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你的贴我转了,以后不会有这种事情了。
I have reposted your post, and there won't be such things in the future.
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支持管理员的决定。
不过说实话,管理员应该首先让大家知道如何让区分,而不是仅仅发警告贴。
我就是看了这里
http://www.cn-dos.net/forum/viewthread.php?tid=24469
才知道CMD和DOS不是一回事。
板块若果能分得细些,或者板块的介绍更清晰些,把DOS和CMD明确的区分开就好了
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Support the administrator's decision.
But to be honest, the administrator should first let everyone know how to distinguish instead of just posting warning posts.
I just saw here
http://www.cn-dos.net/forum/viewthread.php?tid=24469
to know that CMD and DOS are not the same thing.
If the section can be divided more finely, or the introduction of the section is clearer, clearly distinguishing DOS and CMD would be better
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DOS三个字母的意思是:磁盘操作系统
WINDOWS的意思是:窗口
但是实际上:WINDOWS系统和DOS系统
都能进行磁盘操作,都可以说是磁盘操作系统,只是版本不同。
WINDOWS是窗口下的磁盘操作系统,而DOS是命令行的操作系统,
记得以前有个windows32
它开始只是一个dosshell,并不能进行多任务操作,算是dos的三方。
后来发展到win95,win98,都还可以视dos的三方(超强的),
直到win2000,winnt,才像是进入了新一代操作系统,
这是“磁盘操作系统”和“窗口”结合的结晶,
"磁盘操作系统"和"窗口"就像一对"夫妇",而win2000以后的版本就像是他们的"儿子"
而它们的这个儿子太历害了,就像是齐天大圣孙悟空,
可以用身上的毛变出很多的小子“窗口”,其中里面还有叫做CMD的。
现在的WINDWOS难道不是磁盘操作系统(dos)了吗?
我觉得还是,他还是流着老dos的血,还做着老dos的事。
不知道这样比喻妥不妥当。
分清版块是应该的,但是不应该排除windows,多多少少它是和dos有着“血缘"关系,它能变出很多的dos,且在某方面来说,小dos(cmd)他更加强,只是它的权限是有限的,毕竟是“儿子”的“儿子”,肯定受管教了!^_^
看了那么多的前辈的话,也来罗嗦几句,说错了,大家不要见笑。
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The three letters DOS mean: Disk Operating System.
The meaning of WINDOWS is: Window.
But actually: Both the WINDOWS system and the DOS system can perform disk operations, and both can be said to be disk operating systems, just different versions.
WINDOWS is a disk operating system under the window, while DOS is a command-line operating system.
I remember there was a Windows 32 before. It was originally just a DOS shell and couldn't perform multitasking. It could be regarded as a third party of DOS.
Later, it developed to Windows 95, Windows 98, which could still be regarded as third parties of DOS (super strong).
Until Windows 2000, Windows NT, it seemed to enter a new generation of operating system.
This is the crystallization of the combination of "Disk Operating System" and "Window".
"Disk Operating System" and "Window" are like a pair of "couples", and the versions after Windows 2000 are like their "sons".
And this son of theirs is too powerful. It's like the Great Sage Equal to Heaven Sun Wukong. It can use the hairs on its body to transform into many small "windows". Among them, there is one called CMD.
Isn't the current WINDOWS still a disk operating system (DOS)?
I think it still is. It still has the blood of the old DOS and still does the old DOS things.
I don't know if this analogy is appropriate.
It is necessary to distinguish the sections, but Windows should not be excluded. To some extent, it has a "blood" relationship with DOS. It can transform many DOSes. And in a certain aspect, the small DOS (CMD) is stronger, but its permissions are limited. After all, it is the "son of the son", and it must be disciplined! ^_^
After reading so many predecessors' words, I also want to talk a little. If I say something wrong, don't laugh at me.
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WINDWOS难道不是磁盘操作系统(dos)了吗?
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难道Windows是DOS吗?
Is Windows not a disk operating system (DOS) anymore?
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Is Windows a DOS?
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支持ls的 其实大家好多都分不清 我也是其中一员 只是需大量学习 希望置顶科普知识
Those who support ls. Actually, many people, including me, can't tell the difference clearly. Just need to study a lot. Hope to pin the popular science knowledge.
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既然决定这样做,建议置顶。
好久没来坛子,发贴时没看着这个提示,贴子被删除后开找才看到这个规则。
Since you've decided to do this, it is recommended to pin it.
Haven't been to the forum for a long time. When I posted, I didn't see this prompt. After the post was deleted, I started looking and only then saw this rule.
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这样不好,CMD与DOS的区别,很多人都不会知道的……
这儿应该允许发CMD的内容……
至于其余的东西,就不要发在这儿了……
This is not good. The differences between CMD and DOS, many people don't know... Here should be allowed to post content about CMD... As for the rest of the things, don't post them here...
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Originally posted by Climbing at 2009-3-3 02:16:
Windows NT确实不是DOS,但它的CMD窗口确实与DOS一脉相承。
不能说形似就是神似,不可能因为某特型演员长得像国家领导人就认为他是国家领导人。CMD 唯一继承 DOS 的只是它的命令形式,和 DOS 根本就没有关系,除非 CMD 也像 DOS 那样可以独立启动,可以有 DOS 下丰富的软件以取代。这样,我们可以认为 CMD 是一个全新的 DOS 版本把它正式纳入到论坛中加以讨论。所以说它和 DOS “一脉相承”是不确切的。我倒认为可以用“冬虫夏草”和“XX特色”这两个词来形容两者的变化。
正如这个论坛叫DOS联盟论坛,但还是开了很多与DOS无关的版块,知识是成体系有条理的,不能机械的割裂,更不能搞教条主义。我们的目的是普及知识,无论是DOS还是CMD,都在可以普及的范围之内。
虽然开了些与 DOS 无关的版块,但当初开这些版块的目的只是方便会员解决些实际遇到的问题,并非是为了发展,是属于附带性质的,主和次要搞清楚。知识体系当然有连贯性和联系性,但也有分类,如果都仅从实用主义角度出发的话,那网上所有论坛都合并成一个得了,每个论坛也没必要分各个版块了,全放在一起不是很好吗?我们的目的是普及知识,但要搞清楚普及哪些知识,非 DOS 的问题允许存在,但不在普及的范围内,而且也不要和 DOS 掺和在一起。再重申一遍,这里不是大杂全论坛,不是计算机疑难杂症解决论坛,也不是什么免费的方案提供论坛,不是什么实用谈什么的论坛。DOS 和其它操作系统的关系不是水火不相容的关系,而是井水不犯河水的关系。但是,如果井水一味的犯河水那就别怪河水不客气了。
来DOS联盟论坛却没有搞清楚DOS和CMD的区别,这不是用户的悲哀,而是这个论坛的悲哀。
这确实不是用户的悲哀。但是论坛是什么?论坛就和国家、社会一样,是个抽象名词,没有一个个具体的人怎么组成国家?怎么组成社会?所以,如果没有一个个会员的活动那么论坛则是一个空架子,如果没有一个个会员的努力那么那些初学者永远不会搞明白 DOS 和 CMD 的区别,如果都抱着类似于这样实用主义的态度认为区分 DOS 和 CMD 无所谓,那么他们非但不会搞明白 DOS 和 CMD 的区别,而且还会在这个论坛到处乱发非 DOS 的帖子,那这就更是这个论坛的悲哀了。就在这个“DOS疑难杂症”版块甚至连 VBS 的内容都发出来了,这个就不是什么不知道 DOS 和 CMD 区别的问题了。
7楼的观点很中肯,让普通用户明白DOS和CMD的区别不能靠删除帖子来解决,这就如同治水不能用堵的方式一样。
我当然也不想动用强制措施,在这之前我已经转了几个月的帖子了,但还是有人不厌其烦的一而再,再而三的乱发帖子。我们都知道论坛的版主不是专职人员,不可能7x24小时整天看着。因此,采取点强制措施还是必要的。这就好比国家规定不得携带易燃易爆危险品乘坐交通工具,不可能你说我不知道哪些是易燃易爆物品而对你放行。如果你带了,那对不起,照样没收。
Originally posted by Climbing at 2009-3-3 02:16:
Windows NT is indeed not DOS, but its CMD window does have a lineage with DOS.
One cannot say that similarity in appearance means similarity in essence. It's impossible to think that a special actor is a state leader just because he looks like one. The only thing CMD inherits from DOS is its command form, and it has nothing to do with DOS at all, unless CMD can also start independently like DOS and can have rich software under DOS to replace it. In this way, we can consider CMD as a brand-new version of DOS and formally include it in the forum for discussion. Therefore, it's inaccurate to say that it "has a lineage with" DOS. I actually think we can use the terms "winter worm summer grass" and "XX characteristics" to describe the changes between the two.
Just as this forum is called the DOS Union Forum, but there are still many sections unrelated to DOS opened. Knowledge is systematic and well-organized. One cannot mechanically separate it or be dogmatic. Our purpose is to popularize knowledge. Both DOS and CMD are within the scope of popularization.
Although some sections unrelated to DOS are opened, the purpose of opening these sections at the beginning was just to facilitate members to solve practical problems they encountered, not for development, and it's of an incidental nature. We should clarify the main and the secondary. The knowledge system certainly has continuity and connection, but also classification. If we all start from the perspective of pragmatism, then all online forums should be merged into one, and there's no need for each forum to have various sections. Putting everything together isn't very good? Our purpose is to popularize knowledge, but we should clarify what knowledge to popularize. Non-DOS issues are allowed to exist, but they are not within the scope of popularization, and they should not be mixed with DOS. Once again, this is not a general forum, not a forum for solving computer difficult problems, not a free solution providing forum, not a forum for talking about practical things. The relationship between DOS and other operating systems is not a relationship of water and fire, but a relationship of water and water not interfering with each other. However, if the water always encroaches on the river, then don't blame the river for being impolite.
Coming to the DOS Union Forum but not understanding the difference between DOS and CMD is not the user's sorrow, but the sorrow of this forum.
This is indeed not the user's sorrow. But what is a forum? A forum is like a country and society, an abstract noun. Without specific individuals, how can we form a country or society? Therefore, if there are no activities of individual members, the forum is just an empty shell. If there are no efforts of individual members, then beginners will never understand the difference between DOS and CMD. If everyone holds an attitude similar to pragmatism and thinks that it doesn't matter to distinguish between DOS and CMD, then they will not only fail to understand the difference between DOS and CMD, but also post non-DOS posts everywhere in this forum. Then this is even more the sorrow of this forum. In this "DOS Difficult Problems" section, even content of VBS is posted. This is not a problem of not knowing the difference between DOS and CMD.
The view of building 7 is very objective. Making ordinary users understand the difference between DOS and CMD cannot be solved by deleting posts. This is just like governing water cannot be done by blocking.
Of course, I don't want to use compulsory measures. I have been moving posts for several months before this, but there are still people who post posts repeatedly. We all know that the moderators of the forum are not full-time staff and cannot watch all day long. Therefore, it's necessary to take some compulsory measures. This is just like the country's regulation that one cannot take flammable and explosive dangerous goods when taking transportation tools. It's impossible to let you go just because you say you don't know which are flammable and explosive items. If you bring them, then I'm sorry, they will still be confiscated.
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Originally posted by pillow at 2009-3-6 02:25:
既然决定这样做,建议置顶。
好久没来坛子,发贴时没看着这个提示,贴子被删除后开找才看到这个规则。
本来我是想发帖后置顶的,而且关闭讨论。但考虑到许多人一进来从不看置顶的帖子,就像我们从不关心报纸的头版头条一样,所以想还是让这帖子在第一页“浮”一段时间吧,等过段时间再置顶。
Originally posted by pillow at 2009-3-6 02:25:
Since I've decided to do this, it is recommended to pin it at the top.
I haven't been to the forum for a long time. When I posted, I didn't see this prompt. After the post was deleted, I started looking and only then saw this rule.
Originally, I wanted to pin the post after posting and close the discussion. But considering that many people never read the pinned posts when they come in, just like we never care about the front page headlines of newspapers, so I thought it's better to let this post "float" on the first page for a while, and pin it later after some time.
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