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1.44M软盘的极限
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谁能做出一个这样的盘,要求如下:
1、用3。5“软盘做(容量1.44M)
2、中文支持
3、启动时有菜单
4、包括最多的游戏或电脑其它实用软件,工具软件就不必了,因为是给电脑培训部用的,不是拿来修电脑的
Who can make a disk like this with the following requirements:
1. Made with a 3.5" floppy disk (capacity 1.44M)
2. Chinese support
3. Has a menu on startup
4. Includes the most games or other computer utility software. Tools are not needed because it's for a computer training department, not for repairing computers
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『第 2 楼』:
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哈哈,挺有趣的尝试。首先楼主要注意一下,软盘的容量绝对不是 1.44 MB,而是 1.38 MB,约 1440 KB。然后算一算:
DOS系统核心文件(还包括Autoexec.bat、Config.sys和 Himem.sys):约 240 KB
小型中文系统(中国龙,不带输入法):53 KB
剩余空间大约:1440 - 240-53 = 967 KB
好,往不到 1 MB的空间里要塞什么进去就由楼主自主决定了,因为我不知道所谓的“实用”软件到底是指什么,Wengier的MSDOS 7.1启动盘里面附带很多小小的工具软件,也挺实用的。至于DOS游戏,我只知道比较好玩的 Super Mario 也要 64 KB,其他的游戏我不清楚。如果工具体积较大,可以压缩一下。
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Hehe, quite an interesting attempt. First, the owner of the post should note that the capacity of a floppy disk is definitely not 1.44 MB, but 1.38 MB, approximately 1440 KB. Then let's calculate:
The core files of the DOS system (including Autoexec.bat, Config.sys, and Himem.sys): about 240 KB
Small Chinese system (China Dragon, without input method): 53 KB
Remaining space is approximately: 1440 - 240 - 53 = 967 KB
Okay, it's up to the owner of the post to decide what to fit into less than 1 MB of space, because I don't know what the so-called "practical" software refers to. Wengier's MSDOS 7.1 boot disk comes with many small utility software, which is also quite practical. As for DOS games, I only know that the more fun Super Mario also requires 64 KB, and I don't know other games. If the size of the tool is relatively large, you can compress it.
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avsky168
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『第 3 楼』:
通常都说1。44M啊,,工具软件就不必了
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可以创建虚拟盘等方法啊,可以用压缩软件打包程序啊,工具软件就不必了
我认为的实用软件包括:
五笔/英文等打字练习,计算机学习,超级玛丽等等
在HIREN ‘S CD 里面有一个压缩软件,压缩比很高的
Methods like creating virtual disks can be used, and programs can be packaged with compression software. There's no need for utility software.
The practical software I think includes:
Typing practice for Wubi/English, computer learning, Super Mario, etc.
There's a compression software in HIREN 'S CD with a very high compression ratio.
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『第 4 楼』:
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用虚拟盘是必然的了,不然哪里来那么多空间啊。Hiren’s CD 里的工具好像是UHA格式的压缩包,这种格式似乎比CAB和RAR还要高,但压缩工具我没找过。
Using a virtual disk is inevitable, otherwise where would we get so much space? The tools in Hiren’s CD seem to be UHA format compressed archives. This format seems to be even better than CAB and RAR, but I haven't looked for the compression tool.
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『第 5 楼』:
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uha格式是很常用的,搜一下uharc就能找到,很多硬盘版的游戏光盘里面都是用这个压的,很多人也写了windows下的uha的gui,网上能找到很多版本,如winuha等。
至于虚拟盘,或许用类似于grub+memdisk调用一个存储在软盘上的img镜像更好(img文件可用zip/gzip压缩),如果空间紧张,推荐用syslinux代替grub。
这样的好处是,dos的系统文件和所用的驱动程序包含在img中也被压缩了,dos的ramdisk程序也可以省去,取而代之的是memdisk这个bios级的ramdisk.
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The UHA format is very commonly used. You can find uharc by searching. Many hard disk version game CDs are compressed with this. Many people have also written GUIs for UHA under Windows, and many versions can be found online, such as winuha, etc.
As for virtual disks, maybe it's better to use something like grub + memdisk to call an img image stored on a floppy disk (img files can be compressed with zip/gzip). If space is tight, it is recommended to use syslinux instead of grub.
The advantage of this is that the DOS system files and the used drivers are also compressed in the img, and the DOS ramdisk program can be omitted, and instead, memdisk, a BIOS-level ramdisk, is used.
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『第 6 楼』:
刚做了一个,包括7个软件,有赛车/超级玛丽/扫雷/五笔练习
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下载地址:
http://www.cn-jxt.com/bbs/down/gd.rar
有赛车/超级玛丽/扫雷/五笔练习/英文打字练习/识键盘练习/五子棋
我用的CAB格式压缩的,至于UHA格式,我知道是和uharcd这个程序,可我懒得去了解怎么个用法,先做这个试试吧
希望哪位高人出一张包括更多软件的,楼上的说得有理,希望能做一个这样的盘
GRUB这东西我研究不深。
Download link:
http://www.cn-jxt.com/bbs/down/gd.rar
There are racing games / Super Mario / Minesweeper / Wubi practice / English typing practice / keyboard recognition practice / Gobang
I used the CAB format to compress it. As for the UHA format, I know it is related to the uharcd program, but I am too lazy to figure out how to use it, so I will try this first.
I hope some expert can make a disk including more software. What the person above said makes sense, and I hope to make such a disk.
I don't know much about GRUB.
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『第 7 楼』:
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另外,可以用hd-copy把软盘给到1.72M,用2mf.exe可以格到1.86M;不只是1.44M。
In addition, you can use hd - copy to make the floppy disk reach 1.72M, and use 2mf.exe to format it to 1.86M; it's not just 1.44M.
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『第 8 楼』:
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关键就是现在的软盘质量都不行,超格后随便用过几次之后,0道就坏了。
The key is that the quality of floppy disks nowadays is not good. After formatting, after being used a few times casually, the track 0 is damaged.
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『第 9 楼』:
不要超格
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可以放在光盘启动盘里也不错
It's not bad to be able to be placed in the CD bootable disk.
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