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[建议][讨论]对标题模糊的帖子一律删除
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本人几乎天天上联盟,几乎天天都在发版务帖,版务帖只有一个主要内容:提醒楼主修改意思模糊的标题、“关于××的问题”的万能标题、不知所云的标题……最近一个月,批处理室更是每天有100余篇的发(回)帖量,每天上联盟的第一件事情就是逐一翻阅新帖,看是不是得发版务提示楼主,日复一日,每天如此,累得够呛。说实话,每次发版务帖,我都是在强忍着满腔的怒火。
但是,我发现我的好脾气并没有换来批处理室的良好的发帖习惯,标题模糊的帖子仍然天天在发,似乎还有随着发帖量的增长而增长的趋势。我觉得有必要采取铁腕措施来规范发帖行为,遏制这个势头的发展,对标题模糊的帖子一律作删除处理,否则,要么是累死版主,要么是放任烂帖横行。发展下去,前一种情形是无人再愿意担当版主,后一种情形就是无法顺利整理版内的帖子。而无论哪一种情形,对论坛的继续发展的危害都是显而易见的。
I almost go to the union every day and almost post moderation posts every day. The main content of moderation posts is only to remind the thread starter to modify the ambiguous title, the universal title of "about ××", the incomprehensible title... In the past month, there are more than 100 posts (replies) in the Batch Processing Room every day. The first thing to do when going to the union every day is to go through the new posts one by one to see if moderation prompts need to be posted to remind the thread starter. Day in and day out, every day like this, I'm very tired. To tell the truth, every time I post a moderation post, I'm holding back my full anger.
But I find that my good temper hasn't been exchanged for a good posting habit in the Batch Processing Room. Posts with ambiguous titles are still posted every day, and it seems to have a trend of increasing with the growth of the number of posts. I think it's necessary to take tough measures to standardize the posting behavior and curb the development of this trend. Posts with ambiguous titles will be deleted一律. Otherwise, either the moderators will be tired to death, or the messy posts will run rampant. If it develops, the former situation is that no one is willing to be a moderator anymore, and the latter situation is that the posts in the board cannot be sorted out smoothly. And no matter which situation, the harm to the continued development of the forum is obvious.
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支持你~!幸苦了~!:D
Support you~! Thanks for your hard work~! :D
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几天没来,没想到论坛里面居然……
支持版主!标题不清晰者——斩!标题不达意者——斩!……^_^
Been away for a few days, didn't expect the forum to actually...
Support the moderator! Those with unclear titles - beheaded! Those with unclear titles - beheaded!...^_^
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建议论坛做一个回收站区域,让楼主们自己去找自己的帖子
It is suggested that the forum have a recycle bin area, so that the thread starters can find their own posts by themselves.
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回收站?有意思。最好能在移动到回收站的时候,系统会自动给此ID发短信,告诉他的什么帖子因什么原因被放到回收站,以起到提示和警告的作用。
Recycle bin? Interesting. It would be best if the system could automatically send a text message to this ID when moving to the recycle bin, telling him which post was placed in the recycle bin for what reason, to play a role in prompting and warning.
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强烈建议论坛推出回收站功能!
It is strongly recommended that the forum launch a recycle bin function!
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哈哈……回收站功能又实效又幽默可爱~:)
我在去一些其它非技术论坛的时候(如自考论坛等……),里面的帖子尽是标题怎么能吸引人就怎么来,连各种符号都用上了。
估计很可能来这里的用户先前在其它论坛所带的改不掉的“毛病”又习惯地带到了这里。所以,回收站就象是垃圾邮件过滤器原理一样过滤掉了那些不符规则的帖子,然后由发帖者将帖子标题改为合适的内容才能被公众看到。
而且发现一般标题中一般有检索意义的词基本上只有三、四个字,如果标题也不标准的话,根本就没有检索意义了(很难找到,经常是连里面的代码或某些有特征的话还记得,但找起来还是很费劲)
支持e兄和版主的想法~:)))
Haha... The recycle bin function is both practical and humorous and cute~ : )
When I go to some other non-technical forums (such as self-study exams forums, etc....), the posts in them are all about how to make the title attractive, even using various symbols.
It is estimated that it is very likely that the users who come here have brought the "bad habits" that they couldn't get rid of in other forums and habitually brought them here. So, the recycle bin is like the principle of a spam filter to filter out the posts that do not conform to the rules, and then the poster can change the post title to an appropriate content to be seen by the public.
And I found that generally there are basically only three or four characters of words with retrieval significance in the title. If the title is not standard, there is basically no retrieval significance (it is very difficult to find, often I still remember the code or some characteristic words in it, but it is still very difficult to find).
Support brother e and the moderator's ideas~ : ) ) )
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建立回收站的提议不错,不过是想要哪种形式的回收站呢?是专门建一个只读的版块,然后把其它版块中要删除的帖子放在这个版块中做为存档?还是作为一个后台回收站,即删除后只能从后台中查看或恢复?
The proposal to establish a recycle bin is good, but what form of recycle bin do you want? Is it to specifically create a read-only section and put the posts to be deleted from other sections into this section as an archive? Or is it a background recycle bin, that is, after deletion, it can only be viewed or restored from the background?
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看到namejm兄天天为整理版内帖子而劳累, 只能说一声, 兄辛苦了!
est兄提议建回收站的想法的确不错, 版主确认贴子为模糊贴后将其移到回收站, 系统的短消息通知楼主进行贴子标题或内容修改. 在版主确认合格后再移回相应版区.
如在规定时间内楼主没做任何修改(1星期或半月内), 自动删除帖子.
为了更好地管理论坛贴子, 可以将进行移动模糊贴至回收站的权限给论坛内活跃且负责任的一些用户(如:electronixtar、redtek、lxmxn、qzwqzw等等...), 可以更好地督促用户发贴, 又能减轻版主的负担.
Seeing that brother namejm is tirelessly working on organizing the posts in the forum every day, I can only say, brother, you've worked hard!
Brother est's idea of proposing to set up a recycle bin is indeed a good one. After the moderator confirms that a post is a vague post, it is moved to the recycle bin, and the system sends a private message to notify the thread starter to modify the thread title or content. After the moderator confirms it is qualified, it is moved back to the corresponding section.
If the thread starter doesn't make any modifications within the specified time (within one week or half a month), the post is automatically deleted.
To better manage the forum posts, the permission to move vague posts to the recycle bin can be given to some active and responsible users in the forum (such as: electronixtar, redtek, lxmxn, qzwqzw, etc...), which can better urge users to post and also reduce the burden on the moderators.
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Originally posted by Wengier at 2007-1-28 13:24:
是专门建一个只读的版块,然后把其它版块中要删除的帖子放在这个版块中做为存档?还是作为一个后台回收站,即删除后只能从后台中查看或恢复?
考虑到发帖一般是为了求助,其中也不乏一些很有创意的想法,只是因为标题不规范的原因而放到回收站,此等帖子有继续讨论的价值,因此,建议回收站做成这样的:
1、当帖子被移动到回收站的时候,系统自动给此ID发短信,提示他哪个帖子因为什么原因而被放到回收站,提醒他在指定的期限内(比如一个星期、10天半月不等)前去修改标题;
2、如果标题修改之后,提示他可以给版主(给所有版主或指定的一个或两个版主)或超级用户或站长发短信,要求把此帖重新放回相应版块,以便继续讨论;
3、如果在指定期限内没有作相应改动,将自动删除此帖。
因为第2点有个从回收站里把帖子移回原版块的功能,可能会有权限设置方面的困难,可以用别的方案取代。目前暂时想到的就是这样的功能了,细节方面可以酌情增减。
Originally posted by Wengier at 2007-1-28 13:24:
Is it to specifically create a read-only section and put the posts to be deleted from other sections into this section for archiving? Or is it to have a background recycle bin, meaning that deleted posts can only be viewed or restored from the background?
Considering that most posts are made for seeking help, and among them, there are many creative ideas that are just put into the recycle bin due to improper titles. Such posts have the value of further discussion. Therefore, it is suggested that the recycle bin be designed as follows:
1. When a post is moved to the recycle bin, the system automatically sends a text message to the ID, informing him which post is placed in the recycle bin for what reason, and reminding him to go to modify the title within a specified period (such as one week, ten days or half a month, etc.);
2. If the title is modified, he is prompted that he can send a text message to the moderator (to all moderators or a specified one or two moderators) or the super user or the site administrator, requesting to move this post back to the corresponding section for further discussion;
3. If no corresponding changes are made within the specified period, the post will be automatically deleted.
Because there may be difficulties in permission settings for the function of moving posts back from the recycle bin to the original section in point 2, other schemes can be used to replace it. For now, this is the function that is tentatively thought of. Details can be increased or decreased as appropriate.
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『第 11 楼』:
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其实使用锁定帖子的功能可以达到类似的效果
发现问题锁定它
就没有人可以回复
自然也不会有人能顶起它
照论坛更新的速度
很快会被其它的新帖所淹没
跟移动到回收站没什么两样
作者改了标题后发短信请求解除锁定
定期过滤删除过期锁定的主题即可
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这样操作的权限仅限于一版之内
不需要有特殊的权限
只是不知道锁定的主题作者还能不能改标题
另外锁定后如何通知作者也是麻烦事
In fact, using the function of locking the post can achieve a similar effect.
Find the problem and lock it.
Then no one can reply.
Naturally, no one can top it up either.
According to the update speed of the forum, it will soon be overwhelmed by other new posts.
It's no different from moving to the recycle bin.
The author modifies the title and then sends a text message to request unlocking.
Regularly filter and delete expired locked topics.
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Such operation rights are only within one version.
No special rights are required.
Just don't know if the author of the locked topic can still modify the title.
In addition, how to notify the author after locking is also a troublesome matter.
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如果只是锁定的话,在那个版面里还会有无人回复的烂帖在占用版面,不如放到回收站里让其自生自灭或起死回生,以保证同一版面里出现的都是有价值的帖子。
If it's just locking, there will still be unreplied bad posts occupying the board in that section. It's better to put them in the recycle bin to let them die out on their own or come back to life, so as to ensure that only valuable posts appear in the same board.
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其实我更想做的是让系统自动通知用户来修改标题,每个烂帖都做版务操作的话就太累人了——不仅仅是发版务帖子很费神,还要在指定期限内(我设置的一般都是三日内)去复查楼主有没有修改,如果没有修改还要扣分+强制修改,如果已经修改还得撤消版务提示。如果能让系统来自动通知的话,就能减轻很多负担。
In fact, what I more want to do is let the system automatically notify users to modify the title. If I do moderation operations on each bad post, it will be too tiring - not only is it very laborious to post moderation posts, but also I need to review within the specified period (usually within three days set by me) to see if the original poster has modified it. If there is no modification, I also need to deduct points + force modification, and if it has been modified, I have to withdraw the moderation prompt. If the system can be used to automatically notify, it can relieve a lot of burden.
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专门设置一个回收站还是有必要的,1. 便于统一管理此类贴子, 2. 也可以节省版面空间.
在版主执行移动到回收站, 系统记录下该贴子在什么版块, 楼主ID, 同时期根据ID自动向其信箱内发送预设的短消息.
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It is necessary to specifically set up a recycle bin. 1. It is convenient for unified management of such posts. 2. It can also save board space.
When the moderator moves a post to the recycle bin, the system records in which section the post is, the ID of the original poster, and at the same time, according to the ID, automatically sends a preset short message to its mailbox.
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要有回收站的话
大约会是在服务区吧
凡是移动到那里的主题
只能编辑不能回复
另外不仅标题模糊会被处理
内容模糊、一帖多问、多帖一问、恶意灌水、言辞违规等
都应该列入考察范围内
至于扣分、通知都是随着移动自动完成
但是通知的理由需要充分些
所以还是先完善一下版规
做到有法可依吧
If there is a recycle bin
It would probably be in the service area
Any thread moved there
Can only be edited but not replied to
In addition, not only titles that are vague will be dealt with
Content that is vague, one post with multiple questions, multiple posts with one question, malicious spamming, improper language, etc.
Should all be included in the scope of consideration
As for deduction of points and notifications, they are all automatically completed with the move
But the reason for the notification needs to be more sufficient
So it is still necessary to improve the forum rules first
To have a basis for law enforcement
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