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『第 16 楼』:
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另外不仅标题模糊会被处理
内容模糊、一帖多问、多帖一问、恶意灌水、言辞违规等
都应该列入考察范围内
这个是啊,确实这样的帖子没有多少价值
In addition, not only the title being vague will be dealt with
Content being vague, one post with multiple questions, multiple posts with one question, malicious spamming, improper language, etc.
should all be included in the scope of consideration
This is true. Indeed, such posts have little value
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『第 17 楼』:
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楼主:大胆地做你觉得应该做的事吧!毕竟拥有版主权限的人不是很多,是可以值得我们普通会员信任的,个人认为以提高工作效率为第一!没必要发什么通知浪费时间,做什么事都瞻前顾后,论坛还有前途?
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LZ: Be bold to do what you think should be done! After all, there are not many people with moderator privileges, and they can be trusted by our ordinary members. Personally, I think improving work efficiency should be the first priority! There's no need to send any notices and waste time. If you hesitate when doing anything, will the forum have a future?
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『第 18 楼』:
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看看内容,可考虑直接删除好了
Please provide the specific content that needs to be processed.
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现已加入论坛回收站版块!目前当帖子移动到回收站时,系统会自动给发帖人发送以下短消息:
帖子移动提示
您在论坛的 xxx 版块中发的帖子由于存在问题,或者违反了论坛版规,已被相应版块的版主转移到论坛回收站。如果您觉得不合适,请与版主或管理员联系,谢谢合作!
看看还有没有需要修改的。
It has now been added to the forum recycle bin section! Currently, when a post is moved to the recycle bin, the system will automatically send the following short message to the poster:
Post Movement Notice
The post you made in the xxx section of the forum has been moved to the forum recycle bin because there is an issue or it violates the forum rules. If you feel it is inappropriate, please contact the moderator or administrator. Thank you for your cooperation!
Is there anything else that needs to be modified?
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建议在被移动的帖子提示中加入相关版规以及发帖标题等链接,让发帖用户了解是因为什么发帖才被移动到这里,并且给出其可以参照或参考的版规链接,也表示让发帖者熟悉以及了解相应版规:)
这样发帖者再次发消息与版主或是管理者联系询问为什么被移动等问题也会相对减少~:)
It is suggested that in the prompt for the moved post, relevant board rules and links to the post title, etc. be added, so that the posting user can understand why the post was moved here, and a link to the referable board rules be provided, also to let the poster be familiar with and understand the board rules. :) In this way, there will be relatively fewer problems when the poster contacts the moderator or administrator again to ask why it was moved, etc. :)
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『第 21 楼』:
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Originally posted by Wengier at 2007-1-29 09:10:
帖子移动提示
您在论坛的 xxx 版块中发的帖子由于存在问题,或者违反了论坛版规,已被相应版块的版主转移到论坛回收站。如果您觉得不合适,请与版主或管理员联系,谢谢合作!
我觉得可以做成这样:在版主删帖的时候,能有直接删除和放到回收站两种选择,以便于直接删除恶意水帖。
在放到回收站的时候,能有以下两个选项:
1、择删除原因(标题模糊、内容模糊、文不对题……做成多选模式),而这个原因会纳入系统短信中,这样就能减少很多麻烦;
2、选择修改期限。如果在指定期限内不做相应反应,将由系统彻底删除掉,这个内容也要放在系统短信内;
因此,系统短信可以写成这样:
您在xxx版块的xxx(标题)帖子因为xxx的原因(此原因由移帖的版主选择而被系统自动纳入短信中)被版主xxx(给出版主的ID是为了方便申诉)移动到回收站(给出回收站的链接),请在x天内(由版主视情况而设置)作相应修改;若此操作有不当之处,请在此期限内到xxx版块提出申诉,或站内联系此版主、其他版主或站长;否则,此帖将在x天后由系统自动删除。如果已经做出相应修改,请站内短信联系站长(顺便问一下:相应版块的版主也应该有对回收站操作的权限吧?),提出移回请求,否则,此帖也会在x天之后由系统自动删除。
Originally posted by Wengier at 2007-1-29 09:10:
Post Moving Notice
The post you made in the xxx section of the forum has been moved to the forum recycle bin because it had issues or violated the forum rules. If you feel it is inappropriate, please contact the moderator or administrator. Thank you for your cooperation!
I think it can be designed like this: When the moderator deletes a post, there should be options for direct deletion and moving to the recycle bin, so that malicious water posts can be directly deleted.
When moving to the recycle bin, there should be the following two options:
1. Select the reason for deletion (fuzzy title, fuzzy content, irrelevant content... made into a multiple-choice mode), and this reason will be included in the system message, which can reduce a lot of troubles;
2. Select the modification deadline. If no corresponding response is made within the specified period, the system will completely delete it, and this content should also be included in the system message;
Therefore, the system message can be written as follows:
The post xxx (title) in the xxx section you made has been moved to the recycle bin by moderator xxx (providing the moderator's ID is for easy appeal) because of the reason xxx (this reason is automatically included in the message by the moderator who moved the post), please make corresponding modifications within x days (set by the moderator according to the situation); if there is any improper operation, please raise an appeal in the xxx section within this period, or contact this moderator, other moderators or the webmaster via private message; otherwise, this post will be automatically deleted by the system after x days. If corresponding modifications have been made, please contact the webmaster via private message (by the way: should the moderators of the corresponding section also have the right to operate on the recycle bin?)., put forward a request to move it back, otherwise, this post will also be automatically deleted by the system after x days.
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『第 22 楼』:
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建议以提高效率为目的,呵呵。怎样快、简便、轻松怎样好
Suggest with the goal of improving efficiency, heh. Whatever is fast, simple, and easy is good
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提高效率是需要从多方面考虑的,如果三言两语就把楼主打发了,删帖子倒是十分高效,但是,带来的纷争可能比删帖子要麻烦N倍,以一时的高效换来日后的无尽烦恼恐怕也算不上是提高了效率了吧,呵呵。
Improving efficiency needs to be considered from multiple aspects. If you perfunctorily dismiss the original poster in a few words and delete the post, it is indeed very efficient, but the disputes brought about may be tens of times more troublesome than deleting the post. Exchanging temporary efficiency for endless troubles in the future may not be considered as improving efficiency, heh heh.
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『第 25 楼』:
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现在的方案倒是方便了版主
不过管理员的工作量就大很多了
版主只需要移动
最多选择理由和期限
而管理员要收短信、确认修改、移回原版
还要定期删除过期帖子
版主的勤奋可能反而会增加管理员的负担
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对于这个问题建议还是采用首办负责制
移出,确认,移回,删除统一为一人
一个用户有两版权限不是什么难事
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而且这样定制的功能开发起来并不是很简单的
即使对于Wengier这样的高手也需要一些时间
建议大家现找找有没有什么可用的Discuz!插件之类现成的东东
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另外,建议回收站只可编辑不可回复
Now the current plan is convenient for the forum moderators.
But the workload of the administrators is much larger.
Moderators only need to move, at most choose the reason and the time limit.
But administrators need to receive text messages, confirm the modification, move it back to the original version, and also regularly delete expired posts.
The diligence of moderators may反而 increase the burden on administrators.
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For this problem, it is suggested to still adopt the first-hand responsibility system.
Moving out, confirming, moving back, and deleting are all unified by one person.
It is not a difficult thing for one user to have permissions in two versions.
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Moreover, the development of such customized functions is not very simple.
Even for高手 like Wengier, it will take some time.
It is suggested that everyone now look for whether there are any available Discuz! plug-ins or other ready-made things.
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In addition, it is suggested that the recycle bin can only be edited but not replied to.
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Originally posted by qzwqzw at 2007-1-29 12:05:
现在的方案倒是方便了版主
不过管理员的工作量就大很多了
版主只需要移动
最多选择理由和期限
而管理员要收短信、确认修改、移回原版
还要定期删除过期帖子
版主的勤奋可能反而会增加管理员的负担
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其实,定期删除过期帖子交给系统去做就行了,不过可能开发这个功能的难度比较大。
建议给各版主对回收站进行相应操作的权限,至少,应当能保证各版版主能对从本版区移动过来的帖子进行移回操作的权限,这样就能减少管理员的负担了,不过,可能开发此功能的难度也不小。
Originally posted by qzwqzw at 2007-1-29 12:05:
Now the solution is convenient for the moderators
But the workload of the administrators is much greater
Moderators only need to move
At most choose the reason and the period
While administrators need to receive text messages, confirm modifications, move back to the original version
Also, regularly delete expired posts
The diligence of moderators may反而 increase the burden on administrators
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Actually, regularly deleting expired posts can be left to the system, but maybe the difficulty of developing this function is relatively large.
It is suggested to give each moderator the corresponding operation rights on the recycle bin. At least, the rights to move back the posts moved from this board area should be guaranteed for the moderators of each board, so that the burden on administrators can be reduced. However, maybe the difficulty of developing this function is also quite large.
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『第 27 楼』:
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建议搞简单一点,这样才不会流于形式!
论坛中以前有很多很好的建议,可是由于操作较为复杂,都成为空言!
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It is suggested to make it simpler, so that it won't be just a formality!
There were many very good suggestions in the forum before, but due to relatively complicated operations, they all became empty words!
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re:namejm
"建议给各版主对回收站进行相应操作的权限,至少,应当能保证各版版主能对从本版区移动过来的帖子进行移回操作的权限,这样就能减少管理员的负担了,不过,可能开发此功能的难度也不小。 "
实现这个功能并不难的!现在我发现在"回收站"的操作权限跟别的版块没有两样!
而且版主们应当有这个权限吧?要不"请与版主或管理员联系"就会成为空话!
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re: namejm
"Proposal to give each forum moderator the permission to perform corresponding operations on the recycle bin. At least, it should ensure that forum moderators have the permission to move posts back from the section they moved them from, which can reduce the burden on administrators. However, maybe the difficulty of developing this function is also quite high. "
Implementing this function is not difficult at all! Now I find that the operation permissions in the "recycle bin" are the same as in other sections!
And moderators should have this permission, otherwise "please contact the moderator or administrator" will become empty talk!
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『第 29 楼』:
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个人觉得站长给出的提示已很简练,没有必要改成很详细的内容!增加版主们的负担!
可以在短信中给出"版规"的超级链接让违反者自己查找!而没有必要给出违反哪一条规定的具体内容!因为发这些垃圾帖的楼主基本上是很懒,不想动脑筋的会员!
Personally, I think the tips given by the webmaster are already concise, and there is no need to change them into very detailed content! It increases the burden on the moderators! You can give a hyperlink to the "forum rules" in the private message for the violators to find by themselves! And there is no need to give the specific content of which regulation is violated! Because the owners of these spam posts are basically very lazy members who don't want to use their brains!
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由系统定期删除似乎有点不太现实,不如这样看看,即一旦放入回收站,如果数天内没有移回,那么将永远不可移回。有些帖子虽然违反了版规放到了回收站中,但不等于完全没有价值,放在那儿其实也可以的,只要不放在其它版块中影响美观或气氛即可;对于完全没有价值的帖子,经过一段时间后可由版主或管理员进行判别后批量删除(现在所有的版主应该已有操作回收站的管理权限了)。
目前关于回收站的普通权限是:仅版主以上能发新帖、银牌会员以上能回帖,以及帖子作者能编辑帖子。
It seems a bit unrealistic to have the system regularly delete. Let's see it this way: once a post is put into the recycle bin, if it is not moved back within a few days, it will never be movable back. Although some posts that violate the forum rules are placed in the recycle bin, it doesn't mean they have no value at all. They can be placed there, as long as they don't affect the appearance or atmosphere when placed in other sections; for posts with completely no value, after a period of time, they can be batch deleted after being judged by the moderators or administrators (now all moderators should already have the management rights to operate the recycle bin).
Currently, the ordinary permissions regarding the recycle bin are: only moderators and above can post new threads, silver members and above can reply to threads, and the author of the thread can edit the thread.
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欢迎大家来到我的“新DOS时代”网站,里面有各类DOS软件和资料,地址:
http://wendos.mycool.net/
E-Mail & MSN: wengierwu AT hotmail.com (最近比较忙,有事请联系DOSroot和雨露,谢谢!)
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