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The works of Zhu Bangfu, the father of Cangjie, during his time in Shenzhen Industrial Park from 1986 to 1989. Including seven functions such as document editing, typesetting, and spreadsheets, it only has more than 400 KB in total. The Chinese character shape generator used is only more than 20 KB, which can be arbitrarily enlarged and rotated, different from the general dot matrix font library, so the volume is very small.
I saw it online and have been looking for it for a long time. I also asked on Zhu Bangfu's website. It seems that it was only sold in Taiwan around 1990. It seems difficult to see its true face.
If someone knows and can provide it, that would be really great.

Hehe~ I want it! Who has it?

Looking forward to it~~~

Exactly.

First heard of Juzhen Chinese System
I'll also help you look for it
Whoever finds it first will share it

It is said that only one test version was released.

Found some materials, but he said "Juzhen is a failure"
Link: http://www.cbflabs.net/tec/cbflabs/tecdown/2000qa.htm

bbs.cis.nctu.edu.tw
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From: aaawang.bbs@bbs.cis (Xing Zhe), Forum: chinfost
Subject: Apologies to Buyers of Juzhen
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The Demise of Juzhen Chinese Integration System

This article is to apologize to the buyers of Juzhen through this forum and to record the process of promoting the Juzhen Chinese integration system in Taiwan.

In 1990, the students of Mr. Zhu Bangfu completed the Juzhen Chinese integration system in Shenzhen, Mainland China. The Juzhen system has seven major functions: window, document, drawing, database, spreadsheet, typesetting, and communication. Plus, it has a non-hierarchical scalable Chinese character font library that can output 6 million Chinese characters, all on just one floppy disk. At that time, when most PCs only had 1MB memory and mono display, it used EMS and supported SUPER VGA. It received high praise in Mainland China. Jingguo Electronics in Taiwan got the news and specially invited Mr. Zhu back to give a presentation. After Mr. Zhu returned to Taiwan, it shocked the information industry at that time. Several presentations were fully attended. I attended one of them. At that time, using a 286 to perform the typesetting function, the screen scrolling was very smooth, and I was dazzled. Plus, the environment that could open 65,536 windows and other powerful functions, the large conference hall was almost silent. What impressed me the most was when printing. When Mr. Zhu pressed ENTER, the XP-11 laser printer immediately started rotating, and a page of the document came out in just a few seconds. For me who often used PAGE MAKER and looked down on Chinese software at that time, it was like seeing a wonder. There was an inexplicable excitement in my heart, as if I saw a bright future for the Chinese software industry.

At this time, due to the instruction of a temple in Keelung, Mr. Zhu changed the cooperation object to Guorong Company (for details, see "The Journey of Wisdom" Volume 3). At that time, the president of the Taipei Computer Association was Hou Qingxiong, and he and Mr. Su Liang visited Mr. Zhu many times, willing to use the association's strength to promote Juzhen and Cangjie internal code, hoping to solve the character shortage problem at one stroke. Mr. Zhu also strongly agreed, but the president of Guorong firmly opposed it. At that time, Juzhen was still in BETA version, the user interface still needed improvement, and there were bugs everywhere. Mr. Zhu instructed Guorong to first send it to schools for testing and then return it to Shenzhen. Unexpectedly, Guorong was eager to go to market for profit. At that time, Mr. Zhu had returned to Shenzhen, wanting to first open up the Juzhen modules for the industry and academia to jointly develop the next generation of Chinese software, with no time for other things. When he learned the news, it was already done. Unfortunately, the partners in Mainland China became greedy for money and started power struggles. After Mr. Zhu lost major power, he could only stand by and watch. I arrived in Shenzhen during the Spring Festival in 1991. After work started, Mr. Zhu resigned from the position of general manager. The whole company was dispirited, and work morale was low. The Juzhen module programs and documents were 70% ready, but it was like a standstill. After several months of tossing, Mr. Zhu finally gave up Mainland China and moved to Taiwan. After returning to Taiwan, he asked Guorong to let him hire five to ten engineers to continue developing Juzhen. Guorong replied: "You earn some money first." After Mr. Zhu earned 2 million yuan, Guorong hired a few high school student workers, paying only six or seven thousand yuan per month. Half a year later, Mr. Zhu knew it was impossible to do anything, left Guorong, and Juzhen was thus declared dead.

Recently, a netizen sent me a letter, mocking the failure of Juzhen. The failure of Juzhen is not a personal loss for Mr. Zhu Bangfu, but a loss for the entire Chinese software industry. At that time, Mr. Zhu advised Yitian to cooperate to fight against Microsoft, but Yitian was not willing. A few months later, Microsoft launched CWIN and entered the Taiwan market in a big way. In recent years, Yitian has been losing ground steadily. In the future, if Microsoft no longer launches new DOS versions, today's Guoqiao may be tomorrow's Yitian.

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From: ajax1.bbs@bbs.cis (Ajax), Forum: chinfost
Subject: Re: Apologies to Buyers of Juzhen
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==>: aaawang@cis_nctu(Xing Zhe) mentioned in Chinfost:
> The loss of the Chinese software industry. At that time, Mr. Zhu advised Yitian to cooperate to fight against Microsoft, but Yitian was not willing. A few months later, Microsoft launched CWIN and entered the Taiwan market in a big way. In recent years, Yitian has been losing ground steadily. In the future, if Microsoft no longer launches new DOS versions, today's Guoqiao may be tomorrow's Yitian.
^^^^
Just curious, Guoqiao is not mentioned throughout the article. Is it a typo or something else?

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From: Purkinje.bbs@bbs.cis (Eye Tracker), Forum: chinfost
Subject: Re: Apologies to Buyers of Juzhen
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==>: ajax1@cis_nctu(Ajax) mentioned in Chinfost:

> > today's Guoqiao may be tomorrow's Yitian.
> ^^^^
> Just curious, Guoqiao is not mentioned throughout the article. Is it a typo or something else?
He means that back then Guoqiao dominated the Chinese system market, and later was defeated by Yitian. By analogy, Yitian will also be defeated by Microsoft. This analogy is like (incorporated into 1996 GRE questions):

Guoqiao : Yitian = Yitian : Microsoft

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From: aaawang.bbs@bbs.cis (Xing Zhe), Forum: chinfost
Subject: Re: Apologies to Buyers of Juzhen
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==>: ajax1@cis_nctu(Ajax) mentioned in Chinfost:
> > today's Guoqiao may be tomorrow's Yitian.
> ^^^^
> Just curious, Guoqiao is not mentioned throughout the article. Is it a typo or something else?

People from Guoqiao must be very sad when they see your question. Yitian is a latecomer. In the early Chinese market, Guoqiao's market share was much higher than Yitian's. I don't know how many people are still using Guoqiao Chinese today.

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From: rux@bar (Yi Lv), Forum: chinfost
Subject: Re: Apologies to Buyers of Juzhen
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==> aaawang.bbs@bbs.cis (Xing Zhe) mentioned:
: People from Guoqiao must be very sad when they see your question. Yitian is a latecomer. In the early Chinese market, Guoqiao's market share was much higher than Yitian's. I don't know how many people are still using Guoqiao Chinese today.

It is said (Information Fax) that Guoqiao was overtaken by Yitian later because Guoqiao Chinese had protection measures; while Yitian did not have protection, and for a while there was also the sales method of "copy yourself, ten yuan per copy".

Also, Xing Zhe said "Today's Guoqiao is tomorrow's Yitian" has actually come true. On February 6, Information Fax had a cover with a ship named Yitian asking for help from the Lijie Group, and a "CWin" diver was drilling holes in the ship's bottom. (Not funny)

The general meaning of the content is: Chinese Microsoft Windows has eaten up Yitian's market, and Yitian is in financial crisis. It is seeking the funds and management technology of the Lijie Group (Umax) to reorganize its operation direction.

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From: CrystalWu@bar (SDA), Forum: chinfost
Subject: Re: Apologies to Buyers of Juzhen
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==> u801629@Oz.nthu (Xie Mengrui) mentioned:
: Ming-Yen Hsu (myhsu@db.csie.ncu.edu.tw) wrote:
: : Xie Mengrui (u801629@Oz.nthu.edu.tw) wrote:
: : Today Guoqiao Chinese seems to be obtainable for free, and there are not many people running Windows in Mainland China....
: : Just a guess :-)
: Heard that it's because Guoqiao can handle both simplified and traditional Chinese characters.

In my experience
Guoqiao is more useful and convenient than Yitian
Especially when you have two printers
Also
Almost all parameter values can be modified online via kcp
But to enjoy its benefits
Still buy a set
I upgraded from version 5.00
In the era when only Chinese cards could run 24-character fonts
My Guoqiao ran 24 characters happily
However
The market winner is not necessarily the one who put the most effort into the product
Remember that Chinese system called "Good Friend"?
Always treated disk board users as secondary users, treated card boards as money trees, and didn't want everyone to enjoy high display quality at a low price?
Chinese systems
One year after Zhenhan and Guoqiao successively had 24-character disk boards
Finally had to bow to the times
Alas!

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From: Rollaned.bbs@bbs.ee.nthu. (WhattheHell), Forum: chinfost
Subject: Re: Apologies to Buyers of Juzhen
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==> In the article by CrystalWu.bbs@vlsi1.iie.ncku (SDA):
: Remember that Chinese system called "Good Friend"?
: Always treated disk board users as secondary users, treated card boards as money trees, and didn't want everyone to enjoy high display quality at a low price?
: Chinese systems
: One year after Zhenhan and Guoqiao successively had 24-character disk boards
: Finally had to bow to the times

Yitian deserved such an end. I guessed three years ago that Yitian would collapse, and now it's indeed the case
Why is this? Because it didn't make progress. Back then, it had such good strength and opportunity to develop an integrated desktop environment belonging to our own culture, but it didn't do it, only liked making money. Now foreign forces have invaded Taiwan with leading technology, and the fragmented Taiwan software industry can only act like a lackey wagging its tail at foreign masters. Sigh...

This industry requires rapid market share. We have lost the first-mover advantage, and I'm afraid there will be no chance to turn around in the future. You said the government is assisting, but I think it's just dividing the pie. When the money is divided, nothing useful is still made. When I chatted with engineers from ITRI, I found they are very idle! When there is work, it's just localizing foreign products, doing advertising, promotion, and consulting, that's all. As for private software companies, needless to say, in business, they are only after profit!

Maybe now I can only pin my hopes on Mr. Zhu. I think only he has far-sighted vision. I don't know what I will do in the future? Write programs? Do management? It seems I have lost interest. Why have I lost interest? Because I can only do things classified and regulated by foreign masters, otherwise I can't even eat! Hehe... Should I learn the posture of a lackey now? Laugh three times!

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From: jtain.bbs@aidebbs (All-Powerful), Forum: chinfost
Subject: Re: Apologies to Buyers of Juzhen
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WhattheHell (Rollaned.bbs@bbs.ee.nthu.edu.tw.) mentioned:
: Yitian deserved such an end. I guessed three years ago that Yitian would collapse, and now it's indeed the case
: Why is this? Because it didn't make progress. Back then, it had such good strength and opportunity to develop an integrated desktop environment belonging to our own culture, but it didn't do it, only liked making money. Now foreign forces have invaded Taiwan with leading technology, and the fragmented Taiwan software industry can only act like a lackey wagging its tail at foreign masters. Sigh...
: This industry requires rapid market share. We have lost the first-mover advantage, and I'm afraid there will be no chance to turn around in the future. You said the government is assisting, but I think it's just dividing the pie. When the money is divided, nothing useful is still made. When I chatted with engineers from ITRI, I found they are very idle! When there is work, it's just localizing foreign products, doing advertising, promotion, and consulting, that's all. As for private software companies, needless to say, in business, they are only after profit!
: Maybe now I can only pin my hopes on Mr. Zhu. I think only he has far-sighted vision. I don't know what I will do in the future? Write programs? Do management? It seems I have lost interest. Why have I lost interest? Because I can only do things classified and regulated by foreign masters, otherwise I can't even eat! Hehe... Should I learn the posture of a lackey now? Laugh three times!

It was a great pity that Yitian wasn't brought down back then. As for Yitian, after Zhenhan, the company's total number of employees reached more than 300, so it wasn't afraid of having problems. When a company is large enough, plus market share and reputation, even if it falls, someone will acquire it or the bank will come forward. Otherwise, there wouldn't be Acer today. It has fallen four times... As for Mr. Zhu, I can only say he is only suitable for research and development,
He should be in a research unit of a public institution without business pressure for development,
The research results can be transferred to private companies like ITRI's technology transfer,
In this way, he won't treat certain technologies as exclusive requirements.

Roughly half a year ago, I also once looked for it. Only knew that someone tried to port it to LINUX.
http://www.linux.org.tw/mail-archie/xcin/xcin.199908/msg00049.html
At that time, it seemed that only more than ten thousand sets were sold. There are probably not many remaining.
The only hope is that the National Central Library in Taiwan seems to have a backup.
http://www.ncl.edu.tw/cat/package
Is there any Taiwanese friend who can help?
(Really despicable, instigating others to commit a crime)

Maybe not directly zero-memory calls and other technologies. In fact, using WPSNT and CCED in DOS is relatively good

The following is a quote from hhhhhh on 2004-1-29 13:15:42:
Maybe not directly using techniques like zero-memory calls, actually, using WPSNT and CCED in DOS is relatively good

Many DOS systems cannot perform zero-memory calls......

This should be pinned!

Heard it for the first time, learned something new.

I remember that the earliest Chinese character system was CCDOS from the Sixth Institute. Who has it now?

Pearl Chinese System

Not sure what its relationship is with Juzhen. Also, there's something else I won't mention. Hope experts can give guidance.

VERY BRIEF INTRODUCTION
ABQ is a fully functional Chinese environment based on the Cangjie input method, both developed by Chu Pang-fu (Zhu Bangfu). It is very similar to his earlier system, Chu-chen (Juzhen), for which a manual was written and might still be found in libraries. Mr. Chu gave me this program when I recently visited him in Taitung, Taiwan. He said this program can be freely distributed. He also warns that THIS SYSTEM IS STILL NOT IN FINAL FORM AND DOES CONTAIN SOME BUGS! However, due to a lack of manpower, he doesn't expect to work on them anymore. Printer support is also limited to 180 DPI Epson or Brother compatible printers and various laser printers with resolutions up to 720 DPI. If anyone is willing to add support for other printers, especially high-resolution Epson-compatible printers like Canon BJ series printers, or is willing to try further debugging, please contact me via email at the addresses below. (By the way, the source code is in assembly language.)

NOTES FOR USING ABQ
This package contains five files:
ABQ.EXE The main program
ABQ.HLP The help file
SMJOB5.EXE Big5 to ABQ conversion utility
SMJZB5.EXE ABQ to Big5 conversion utility
README.1ST This file
The only file needed to run ABQ is ABQ.EXE. If you need help, you will also need the ABQ.HLP file. For instructions on obtaining help, see the opening screen.

SOME HINTS ON USING ABQ
If you are going to print, use the /C switch when starting ABQ (i.e., at the prompt, type "ABQ /C". Although when ABQ opens, it is in English mode, the default input mode is Chinese Cangjie. To switch between modes, first press the Insert key, then type Ctrl-A.

Curtis Smith
Internet: s21008@cc.ntnu.edu.tw
Bitnet: ntnus239@twnmoe
Feb. 25, 1994