Do I need to set up a network before doing network programming? - China DOS Union Forum

Experts, I have a very dumb question I want to ask everyone:
I'm using the socket programming provided by wattcp now, and I want to ask: sockets operate on IP addresses, so that means before I program I have to set the machine's IP and gateway. How do I set the machine's IP under DOS? Is it enough to just use the normal DOS networking method?

Let me teach you a simple but labor-intensive method:
Install NT4.0,
After installing it, run the client tool package creation program from Administrative Tools (for network communication installation under DOS, use the full NT4.0 CD)
Installing an NE2000 network card is relatively simple!
For PCI interface ones you have to modify it yourself (use NE2000, it's simpler)
With the communication boot package you have, you can start really testing the communication program you wrote under DOS!
Note: DOS with communication installed under Win9x can also achieve a certain level of DOS communication programming; (but I still think pure DOS is better)
DOS under the Win9x GUI has a lot of unrelated interrupts! For example: modifying the machine name is not very easy... it will conflict with Win9x itself!
Under DOS you don't need to reboot to modify the machine name, but under Win9x you do, plus a whole series of other problems... so I suggest that if you're just learning, it's best not to involve
too many other complicated problems!

Question:
I can't understand what you're saying?

If you don't understand this, then it'll be troublesome for you!
Because DOS is not as convenient as Windows for writing network programs.
In Windows, building a network only takes a couple of mouse clicks,
but under DOS you have to configure the network manually, such as configuring the network card, protocols...
And you also need to know something about the net command.
Like your question -- "Do I need to set up a network before doing network programming?"
Under DOS you must learn DOS networking.
Otherwise it'll be very hard for you to write programs!
Right now you'd better go find some materials on DOS networking!

Very simple: pktdrv driver + tcp.cfg configuration

From what I see, wattcp operates on IP. Right now I'm using Microsoft Network Client 3.0 for networking, but after changing protocol.ini and rebooting, the screen shows this:
PRO0012E:Multiple protman name in PROTOCOL.INI
3Com DOS Etherlink III Network Driver V2.0
ERROR:No network adapter with specified IOADDRESS
ERROR:Initialization failure.Driver will not be installed.
I once saw that there were both and in protocol.ini, so I deleted one of them, and then only the last two errors were left, but no matter what I do I can't solve them. Could some expert help me! Thanks
Also, what does Qiuchan mean? I have pktdrv, but where is tcp.cfg, or what comes with it?

I thought that if you want to use the socket "programming" provided by wattcp, you only need to prepare the pktdrv driver + tcp.cfg configuration. tcp.cfg is explained in the wattcp documentation (the text includes settings for IP address and gateway information), and there is absolutely no need for extra networking setup (definitely).

If you're setting up a network for file management or something like that, then there's no need for wattcp, right?
Also, qiuchan is a kind of insect, hehe, it has nothing to do with Diaochan

Although you have nothing to do with Diaochan, I think you're still a very handsome guy.

What I want to achieve now is TCP communication under DOS. I only saw a wattcp.cfg file in wattcp, I didn't see tcp.cfg. Do you mean that I can directly write the IP and gateway into the *.cfg file, and when the program runs it will set this machine's IP to the value I set?

I used tcp.cfg and got it working in testing. You can try wattcp.cfg, it should also work, they're both just text editing.
I suggest avoiding conflicts with other network drivers under pure DOS, then using wattcp's own test program for testing, and only then writing your own communication program

You're right that the local machine's IP address is determined in tcp.cfg!
And you're also right if you say I'm an ugly guy! Haha!

Qiuchan, why are you being so modest? At the very least your skill is unbelievably cool! ^_^
I used wattcp.cfg to debug the program. When the program runs, I found that it stops at a "printf" statement in that config file and doesn't move, like it crashed (by the way, what is the standard for calling it a crash under DOS)? What's going on?
Also, did you add your tcp.cfg manually yourself?
Thanks!

Qiuchan, where did you download your wattcp? In my wattcp there is only a wattcp.cfg under bin, which is also more or less a configuration file, except it's very complicated, as follows:
print = "Waterloo TCP/IP setup" ; optional key/value
my_ip = 192.168.1.2 ; really is 0.0.0.0, mandatory
hostname = "random-pc" ; optional
netmask = 255.255.255.0 ; mandatory if not using DHCP
domain_list = your.domain.com ; mandatory if not using DHCP
domain_to = 0 ; optional
sockdelay = 30 ; optional
inactive = 0 ; optional
datatimeout = 120 ; optional
debug = 0 ; optional
mss = 1460 ; optional
mtu = 1500 ; optional
mtu_disc = 0 ; optional
icmp_mask_req = 0 ; optional
language = en,$(ETC)\watlang.txt
hosts = $(ETC)\hosts
services = $(ETC)\services
protocols = $(ETC)\protocol
debug.file = wattcp.dbg ; optional

debug.filter = none
debug.proto = arp/rarp/ip/udp/tcp/icmp

debug.mode = header
debug.stat = 0
sk_debug.device = wattcp.sk
sk_debug.openmode = w+ ; default
syslog.file = ; optional
syslog.host = ; optional
syslog.port = 514 ; optional
syslog.level = emerg/alert/error ; optional
tftp.boot_file = ; optional
tftp.server = ; optional
tftp.timeout = 8 ; optional
tftp.retry = 5 ; optional
http.proxy = your.http.proxy: ; no default
talk.localuser =
talk.screenmode = autocr,split
talk.colors = 1E,1A,71,71,71
talk.alias = joe:joe@some.domain.com
talk.logfile = $(WATTCP.CFG)\talk\talk.log
talk.message = "%s is busy. Try again later.\n"
snuz.tmpdir = $(TEMP)
snuz.rc = $(ETC)\news\snuz.rc ; list of subscribed groups, etc
snuz.active = $(ETC)\news\active ; list of all groups
snuz.host = news.server.com ; news server ipaddr
snuz.from = joe@some.domain.com ; the user's email-address
snuz.editor = edit.exe ; editor for writing posts
snuz.smtp = "popmail send %H %D %f" ; external sendmail program
smbpd.workgroup = "my-work-group"
smbpd.printer1name = "my-printer-at-lpt1"
smbpd.printer2name = "my-printer-at-lpt2"
smbpd.printer3name = "my-printer-at-lpt3"
smtp.subdir = $(ETC)\smtpd\mail\ ; sub-dir for mail/temp files, must exist
smtp.sessions = 8 ; # of SMTP sessions

I once put the C program and the library generated by wattcp into one project, put this wattcp.cfg in the same folder as the project, ran it, and as a result the screen stopped at "Waterloo TCP/IP setup" and wouldn't move.

Downloaded wat2001b.zip from the official website www.wattcp.com
The tcp.cfg configuration isn't that complicated, just these two lines are enough
my_ip=129.97.50.196
netmask=255.255.255.0
You need make before it can connect
Looks like there is still a difference in the source. If convenient, email me your source, and we can all study it together.

My wattcp wasn't downloaded from its official website, there were three archive files in total. But I already don't remember where I downloaded it from. I've now successfully configured it with wattcp.cfg. It's just that compared with the tcp.cfg you used, I had to set hostname, domainlist, and gateway as well. I want to ask you, do you have wattcp development documentation? If you do, please send me a copy. My email: forzhanghua@sohu.com
Thanks!

Floor1　forzhanghua	Posted 2003-09-22 00:00
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Experts, I have a very dumb question I want to ask everyone: I'm using the socket programming provided by wattcp now, and I want to ask: sockets operate on IP addresses, so that means before I program I have to set the machine's IP and gateway. How do I set the machine's IP under DOS? Is it enough to just use the normal DOS networking method?

Floor2　问题	Posted 2003-09-23 00:00
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Let me teach you a simple but labor-intensive method: Install NT4.0, After installing it, run the client tool package creation program from Administrative Tools (for network communication installation under DOS, use the full NT4.0 CD) Installing an NE2000 network card is relatively simple! For PCI interface ones you have to modify it yourself (use NE2000, it's simpler) With the communication boot package you have, you can start really testing the communication program you wrote under DOS! Note: DOS with communication installed under Win9x can also achieve a certain level of DOS communication programming; (but I still think pure DOS is better) DOS under the Win9x GUI has a lot of unrelated interrupts! For example: modifying the machine name is not very easy... it will conflict with Win9x itself! Under DOS you don't need to reboot to modify the machine name, but under Win9x you do, plus a whole series of other problems... so I suggest that if you're just learning, it's best not to involve too many other complicated problems!

Floor3　forzhanghua	Posted 2003-09-23 00:00
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Question: I can't understand what you're saying?

Floor4　问题	Posted 2003-09-24 00:00
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If you don't understand this, then it'll be troublesome for you! Because DOS is not as convenient as Windows for writing network programs. In Windows, building a network only takes a couple of mouse clicks, but under DOS you have to configure the network manually, such as configuring the network card, protocols... And you also need to know something about the net command. Like your question -- "Do I need to set up a network before doing network programming?" Under DOS you must learn DOS networking. Otherwise it'll be very hard for you to write programs! Right now you'd better go find some materials on DOS networking!

Floor5　秋蝉	Posted 2003-09-24 00:00
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Very simple: pktdrv driver + tcp.cfg configuration

Floor6　forzhanghua	Posted 2003-09-26 00:00
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From what I see, wattcp operates on IP. Right now I'm using Microsoft Network Client 3.0 for networking, but after changing protocol.ini and rebooting, the screen shows this: PRO0012E:Multiple protman name in PROTOCOL.INI 3Com DOS Etherlink III Network Driver V2.0 ERROR:No network adapter with specified IOADDRESS ERROR:Initialization failure.Driver will not be installed. I once saw that there were both and in protocol.ini, so I deleted one of them, and then only the last two errors were left, but no matter what I do I can't solve them. Could some expert help me! Thanks Also, what does Qiuchan mean? I have pktdrv, but where is tcp.cfg, or what comes with it?

Floor7　秋蝉	Posted 2003-09-28 00:00
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I thought that if you want to use the socket "programming" provided by wattcp, you only need to prepare the pktdrv driver + tcp.cfg configuration. tcp.cfg is explained in the wattcp documentation (the text includes settings for IP address and gateway information), and there is absolutely no need for extra networking setup (definitely). If you're setting up a network for file management or something like that, then there's no need for wattcp, right? Also, qiuchan is a kind of insect, hehe, it has nothing to do with Diaochan

Floor8　forzhanghua	Posted 2003-09-28 00:00
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Although you have nothing to do with Diaochan, I think you're still a very handsome guy. What I want to achieve now is TCP communication under DOS. I only saw a wattcp.cfg file in wattcp, I didn't see tcp.cfg. Do you mean that I can directly write the IP and gateway into the *.cfg file, and when the program runs it will set this machine's IP to the value I set?

Floor9　秋蝉	Posted 2003-09-29 00:00
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I used tcp.cfg and got it working in testing. You can try wattcp.cfg, it should also work, they're both just text editing. I suggest avoiding conflicts with other network drivers under pure DOS, then using wattcp's own test program for testing, and only then writing your own communication program You're right that the local machine's IP address is determined in tcp.cfg! And you're also right if you say I'm an ugly guy! Haha!

Floor10　forzhanghua	Posted 2003-09-29 00:00
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Qiuchan, why are you being so modest? At the very least your skill is unbelievably cool! ^_^ I used wattcp.cfg to debug the program. When the program runs, I found that it stops at a "printf" statement in that config file and doesn't move, like it crashed (by the way, what is the standard for calling it a crash under DOS)? What's going on? Also, did you add your tcp.cfg manually yourself? Thanks!

Floor11　秋蝉	Posted 2003-09-30 00:00
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Floor12　forzhanghua	Posted 2003-10-08 00:00
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Qiuchan, where did you download your wattcp? In my wattcp there is only a wattcp.cfg under bin, which is also more or less a configuration file, except it's very complicated, as follows: print = "Waterloo TCP/IP setup" ; optional key/value my_ip = 192.168.1.2 ; really is 0.0.0.0, mandatory hostname = "random-pc" ; optional netmask = 255.255.255.0 ; mandatory if not using DHCP domain_list = your.domain.com ; mandatory if not using DHCP domain_to = 0 ; optional sockdelay = 30 ; optional inactive = 0 ; optional datatimeout = 120 ; optional debug = 0 ; optional mss = 1460 ; optional mtu = 1500 ; optional mtu_disc = 0 ; optional icmp_mask_req = 0 ; optional language = en,$(ETC)\watlang.txt hosts = $(ETC)\hosts services = $(ETC)\services protocols = $(ETC)\protocol debug.file = wattcp.dbg ; optional debug.filter = none debug.proto = arp/rarp/ip/udp/tcp/icmp debug.mode = header debug.stat = 0 sk_debug.device = wattcp.sk sk_debug.openmode = w+ ; default syslog.file = ; optional syslog.host = ; optional syslog.port = 514 ; optional syslog.level = emerg/alert/error ; optional tftp.boot_file = ; optional tftp.server = ; optional tftp.timeout = 8 ; optional tftp.retry = 5 ; optional http.proxy = your.http.proxy: ; no default talk.localuser = talk.screenmode = autocr,split talk.colors = 1E,1A,71,71,71 talk.alias = joe:joe@some.domain.com talk.logfile = $(WATTCP.CFG)\talk\talk.log talk.message = "%s is busy. Try again later.\n" snuz.tmpdir = $(TEMP) snuz.rc = $(ETC)\news\snuz.rc ; list of subscribed groups, etc snuz.active = $(ETC)\news\active ; list of all groups snuz.host = news.server.com ; news server ipaddr snuz.from = joe@some.domain.com ; the user's email-address snuz.editor = edit.exe ; editor for writing posts snuz.smtp = "popmail send %H %D %f" ; external sendmail program smbpd.workgroup = "my-work-group" smbpd.printer1name = "my-printer-at-lpt1" smbpd.printer2name = "my-printer-at-lpt2" smbpd.printer3name = "my-printer-at-lpt3" smtp.subdir = $(ETC)\smtpd\mail\ ; sub-dir for mail/temp files, must exist smtp.sessions = 8 ; # of SMTP sessions I once put the C program and the library generated by wattcp into one project, put this wattcp.cfg in the same folder as the project, ran it, and as a result the screen stopped at "Waterloo TCP/IP setup" and wouldn't move.

Floor13　秋蝉	Posted 2003-10-14 00:00
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Downloaded wat2001b.zip from the official website www.wattcp.com The tcp.cfg configuration isn't that complicated, just these two lines are enough my_ip=129.97.50.196 netmask=255.255.255.0 You need make before it can connect Looks like there is still a difference in the source. If convenient, email me your source, and we can all study it together.

Floor14　forzhanghua	Posted 2003-10-14 00:00
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My wattcp wasn't downloaded from its official website, there were three archive files in total. But I already don't remember where I downloaded it from. I've now successfully configured it with wattcp.cfg. It's just that compared with the tcp.cfg you used, I had to set hostname, domainlist, and gateway as well. I want to ask you, do you have wattcp development documentation? If you do, please send me a copy. My email: forzhanghua@sohu.com Thanks!

Floor15　秋蝉	Posted 2003-10-16 00:00
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