Brother Shen Jie, my suggestions for your next version of the Chinese boot disk: - China DOS Union Forum

The following is a quote from chacha at 2003-8-10 1:24:40:
When will the new Chinese boot disk come out?

The following is a quote from 沈洁 at 2003-8-10 1:49:20:
Unknown!
Recently I haven't had time to work on this!
I'm really sorry!
But I may release a corrected version!
Fix some BUGs and improve some compatibility!

Brother Shen Jie, these are my suggestions for your next version:

Just suggestions:

Explanation:
Looking at the questions and replies from many friends in your thread, the focus is that for the various operations on this disk, you still require users to first use “DIR” to check and figure out the program name, and then type in the program name before they can start that program...... This involves a question of understanding and mastering DOS programs, and many friends with varying levels of DOS knowledge will inevitably run into one problem or another when using it (actually some of them are not problems at all).
But with a graphical style of operation, this kind of problem does not exist. It is almost foolproof; like in the examples below, as long as you finish debugging it, no matter who uses it there will be no problem.

Let me use a simple example to explain:

Example 1, we are now going to format a floppy disk:

Example 2, the contents on the floppy disk will be “chopped” away! Everybody understands that, right:

Example 3, the program runs automatically; you only need “Y” and “N”:

Example 4, here of course, according to your needs, pressing “Cancel” will return to the menu in Example 1:

Sorry! Actually everyone ought to have their own personality and style; this is only my personal view.

LK

That menu was also made with WBAT, right?

The following is a quote from Wengier at 2003-8-10 11:16:21:
That menu was also made with WBAT, right?

Yes! It was made with WBAT.

Thanks for LK's suggestion!
I had thought about this issue too,
but later I still made it look like win98,
just so everyone could get used to using this DOS better!
After all, this way it looks more like DOS,
the goal of version 2.0 is to make a Chinese-localized win98 boot disk exactly the same as a win98 boot disk
It can run completely the same as the boot disk that comes with win98!
That is why I made it like this!
In the end I still gave up using a graphical menu,
isn't version 2.0 actually more like a Chinese-localized version of a win98 boot disk?
Don't you think so!
I only enhanced its functions while localizing it!
Of course I will accept your suggestion and add a graphical interface in the next version,
but for this version, let's not change it!
I really don't know when I'll have time again!

The following is a quote from 沈洁 at 2003-8-10 12:37:11:
I had thought about this issue too,
but later I still made it look like win98,

Made it look like Win98??? But Win98 uses a GUI for operation!!!

The following is a quote from 沈洁 at 2003-8-10 12:37:11:
Version 2.0 is actually more like a Chinese-localized version of a win98 boot disk, isn't it!

It was stated very clearly above!
What it resembles is the win98 boot disk, not win98,
please don't misunderstand!

I very much agree with this brother's suggestion. Of the people who use windos, 80% basically do not understand wondows at all, yet they use it very smoothly. Why? Because it has a graphical interface, a foolproof style of operation. Looking at many current boot disks, they all require the people using them to have a certain DOS foundation. To use it, people first have to figure out DOS; for newbies, especially those who don't know English at all, that's just too hard!! If it is made into a menu-style Chinese interface, it will be welcomed by even more people.

Yes, yes!
I will improve it!

Please upload the Chinese boot disk made by LK! Let everyone try it out

Green Hornet:
It would be best to include with version 2.0 a DOS boot explanation for the disk, on how to load the floppy disk's system programs. I don't really care about the graphical drawn interface. After all, it does waste a lot of precious space. A practical DOS is much more useful to beginners than a pretty interface.

I wasn't willing to put the logo in either!
But isn't about 50 seconds of black screen rather scary too!
Ordinary people would definitely think it had crashed!
If you're not afraid, you can delete the logo.sys file and the logo will be removed!
It can still be used!
The extra space can then be used to put in software!

Waste a lot of precious space? Who can point out which files in the file list below are those “graphical drawn interface” files that are wasting space?

Volume in drive C has no label
Volume Serial Number is 0E54-1405
Directory of C:\dazip

. 08-09-03 22:22 .
.. 08-09-03 22:22 ..
DOSLFN COM 11,051 05-29-03 12:11 DOSLFN.COM
ARCHIVES MNU 260 06-02-00 0:08 ARCHIVES.MNU
DISKGEN EXE 141,187 03-03-02 23:01 DISKGEN.EXE
EDIT COM 72,174 01-10-99 8:00 EDIT.COM
F32 COM 21,206 10-05-02 8:02 F32.COM
FDISK EXE 66,300 03-05-03 13:49 FDISK.EXE
FORMAT COM 49,655 05-05-99 22:22 FORMAT.COM
FORMAT MNU 141 06-02-00 0:08 FORMAT.MNU
HDD COM 46,152 07-18-01 0:48 HDD.COM
HELP HLP 8,818 04-02-03 22:57 HELP.HLP
LOOKBACK DAT 20 05-09-03 18:54 LOOKBACK.DAT
MOUSE COM 7,007 10-17-00 16:54 MOUSE.COM
MOUSE INI 24 03-09-03 20:59 MOUSE.INI
MSCDEX EXE 25,473 05-05-99 22:22 MSCDEX.EXE
RECUR EXE 31,850 05-01-02 16:06 RECUR.EXE
SPF2K EXE 66,519 12-24-02 0:51 SPF2K.EXE
SYS COM 19,159 05-05-99 22:22 SYS.COM
VC COM 8,880 06-02-00 0:08 VC.COM
VC EXT 380 06-02-00 0:08 VC.EXT
VC INI 1,124 08-05-03 22:44 VC.INI
VC MNU 464 06-02-00 0:08 VC.MNU
VCEDIT EXT 379 06-02-00 0:08 VCEDIT.EXT
VCVIEW EXT 599 06-02-00 0:08 VCVIEW.EXT
W BAT 59 08-12-03 22:58 W.BAT
WBAT COM 10,979 12-18-01 20:23 WBAT.COM
WBAT INI 2,115 08-10-03 12:29 WBAT.INI
LOOKBACK LBK 8,292 08-20-02 21:50 LOOKBACK.LBK
MEM EXE 32,306 05-05-99 22:22 MEM.EXE
TW EXE 204,531 12-27-96 20:37 TW.EXE
WBX COM 45,959 03-12-94 0:57 WBX.COM
PY COM 55,238 09-06-93 0:00 PY.COM
QUIT COM 7 04-27-97 14:26 QUIT.COM
CHDCOPY EXE 46,530 02-18-97 12:53 CHDCOPY.EXE
STORE DAT 140,421 04-27-97 14:26 STORE.DAT
PDIT HLP 7,580 01-10-99 16:00 PDIT.HLP
LOW EXE 32,951 05-23-01 19:00 LOW.EXE
PDK BAT 5,496 05-23-03 21:13 PDK.BAT
CP936UNI TBL 15,505 01-12-03 2:18 CP936UNI.TBL
VC OVL 114,993 08-03-03 22:53 VC.OVL
VCNEWS TXT 31,102 06-02-00 0:08 VCNEWS.TXT
ASM MNU 65 06-02-00 0:08 ASM.MNU
FILE_ID DIZ 311 06-02-00 0:08 FILE_ID.DIZ
VCARCH EXT 5,525 06-02-00 0:08 VCARCH.EXT
VCFILTER EXT 1,020 06-02-00 0:08 VCFILTER.EXT
VCINFO TXT 4,605 06-02-00 0:08 VCINFO.TXT
VCSITES TXT 1,829 06-02-00 0:08 VCSITES.TXT
46 file(s) 1,346,241 bytes

GOOD！！！
LK could you upload the download link for the “graphical drawn interface” Chinese boot disk???

Floor1　LK	Posted 2003-08-10 00:00
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*The following is a quote from chacha at 2003-8-10 1:24:40:* When will the new Chinese boot disk come out? *The following is a quote from 沈洁 at 2003-8-10 1:49:20:* Unknown! Recently I haven't had time to work on this! I'm really sorry! But I may release a corrected version! Fix some BUGs and improve some compatibility! Brother Shen Jie, these are my suggestions for your next version: Just suggestions:

Floor2　LK	Posted 2003-08-10 00:00
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Explanation: Looking at the questions and replies from many friends in your thread, the focus is that for the various operations on this disk, you still require users to first use “DIR” to check and figure out the program name, and then type in the program name before they can start that program...... This involves a question of understanding and mastering DOS programs, and many friends with varying levels of DOS knowledge will inevitably run into one problem or another when using it (actually some of them are not problems at all). But with a graphical style of operation, this kind of problem does not exist. It is almost foolproof; like in the examples below, as long as you finish debugging it, no matter who uses it there will be no problem. Let me use a simple example to explain: Example 1, we are now going to format a floppy disk: Example 2, the contents on the floppy disk will be “chopped” away! Everybody understands that, right: Example 3, the program runs automatically; you only need “Y” and “N”: Example 4, here of course, according to your needs, pressing “Cancel” will return to the menu in Example 1: Sorry! Actually everyone ought to have their own personality and style; this is only my personal view. LK

Floor3　Wengier	Posted 2003-08-10 00:00
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That menu was also made with WBAT, right?

Floor4　LK	Posted 2003-08-10 00:00
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*The following is a quote from Wengier at 2003-8-10 11:16:21:* That menu was also made with WBAT, right? Yes! It was made with WBAT.

Floor5　沈洁	Posted 2003-08-10 00:00
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Thanks for LK's suggestion! I had thought about this issue too, but later I still made it look like win98, just so everyone could get used to using this DOS better! After all, this way it looks more like DOS, the goal of version 2.0 is to make a Chinese-localized win98 boot disk exactly the same as a win98 boot disk It can run completely the same as the boot disk that comes with win98! That is why I made it like this! In the end I still gave up using a graphical menu, isn't version 2.0 actually more like a Chinese-localized version of a win98 boot disk? Don't you think so! I only enhanced its functions while localizing it! Of course I will accept your suggestion and add a graphical interface in the next version, but for this version, let's not change it! I really don't know when I'll have time again!

Floor6　Wengier	Posted 2003-08-10 00:00
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*The following is a quote from 沈洁 at 2003-8-10 12:37:11:* I had thought about this issue too, but later I still made it look like win98, Made it look like Win98??? But Win98 uses a GUI for operation!!!

Floor7　沈洁	Posted 2003-08-10 00:00
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*The following is a quote from 沈洁 at 2003-8-10 12:37:11:* Version 2.0 is actually more like a Chinese-localized version of a win98 boot disk, isn't it! It was stated very clearly above! What it resembles is the win98 boot disk, not win98, please don't misunderstand!

Floor8　wxhsqdy	Posted 2003-08-11 00:00
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I very much agree with this brother's suggestion. Of the people who use windos, 80% basically do not understand wondows at all, yet they use it very smoothly. Why? Because it has a graphical interface, a foolproof style of operation. Looking at many current boot disks, they all require the people using them to have a certain DOS foundation. To use it, people first have to figure out DOS; for newbies, especially those who don't know English at all, that's just too hard!! If it is made into a menu-style Chinese interface, it will be welcomed by even more people.

Floor9　沈洁	Posted 2003-08-11 00:00
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Yes, yes! I will improve it!

Floor10　jhhjwok	Posted 2003-08-12 00:00
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Please upload the Chinese boot disk made by LK! Let everyone try it out

Floor11　ct	Posted 2003-08-12 00:00
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Green Hornet: It would be best to include with version 2.0 a DOS boot explanation for the disk, on how to load the floppy disk's system programs. I don't really care about the graphical drawn interface. After all, it does waste a lot of precious space. A practical DOS is much more useful to beginners than a pretty interface.

Floor12　沈洁	Posted 2003-08-12 00:00
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I wasn't willing to put the logo in either! But isn't about 50 seconds of black screen rather scary too! Ordinary people would definitely think it had crashed! If you're not afraid, you can delete the logo.sys file and the logo will be removed! It can still be used! The extra space can then be used to put in software!

Floor13　LK	Posted 2003-08-12 00:00
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Waste a lot of precious space? Who can point out which files in the file list below are those “graphical drawn interface” files that are wasting space? Volume in drive C has no label Volume Serial Number is 0E54-1405 Directory of C:\dazip . 08-09-03 22:22 . .. 08-09-03 22:22 .. DOSLFN COM 11,051 05-29-03 12:11 DOSLFN.COM ARCHIVES MNU 260 06-02-00 0:08 ARCHIVES.MNU DISKGEN EXE 141,187 03-03-02 23:01 DISKGEN.EXE EDIT COM 72,174 01-10-99 8:00 EDIT.COM F32 COM 21,206 10-05-02 8:02 F32.COM FDISK EXE 66,300 03-05-03 13:49 FDISK.EXE FORMAT COM 49,655 05-05-99 22:22 FORMAT.COM FORMAT MNU 141 06-02-00 0:08 FORMAT.MNU HDD COM 46,152 07-18-01 0:48 HDD.COM HELP HLP 8,818 04-02-03 22:57 HELP.HLP LOOKBACK DAT 20 05-09-03 18:54 LOOKBACK.DAT MOUSE COM 7,007 10-17-00 16:54 MOUSE.COM MOUSE INI 24 03-09-03 20:59 MOUSE.INI MSCDEX EXE 25,473 05-05-99 22:22 MSCDEX.EXE RECUR EXE 31,850 05-01-02 16:06 RECUR.EXE SPF2K EXE 66,519 12-24-02 0:51 SPF2K.EXE SYS COM 19,159 05-05-99 22:22 SYS.COM VC COM 8,880 06-02-00 0:08 VC.COM VC EXT 380 06-02-00 0:08 VC.EXT VC INI 1,124 08-05-03 22:44 VC.INI VC MNU 464 06-02-00 0:08 VC.MNU VCEDIT EXT 379 06-02-00 0:08 VCEDIT.EXT VCVIEW EXT 599 06-02-00 0:08 VCVIEW.EXT W BAT 59 08-12-03 22:58 W.BAT WBAT COM 10,979 12-18-01 20:23 WBAT.COM WBAT INI 2,115 08-10-03 12:29 WBAT.INI LOOKBACK LBK 8,292 08-20-02 21:50 LOOKBACK.LBK MEM EXE 32,306 05-05-99 22:22 MEM.EXE TW EXE 204,531 12-27-96 20:37 TW.EXE WBX COM 45,959 03-12-94 0:57 WBX.COM PY COM 55,238 09-06-93 0:00 PY.COM QUIT COM 7 04-27-97 14:26 QUIT.COM CHDCOPY EXE 46,530 02-18-97 12:53 CHDCOPY.EXE STORE DAT 140,421 04-27-97 14:26 STORE.DAT PDIT HLP 7,580 01-10-99 16:00 PDIT.HLP LOW EXE 32,951 05-23-01 19:00 LOW.EXE PDK BAT 5,496 05-23-03 21:13 PDK.BAT CP936UNI TBL 15,505 01-12-03 2:18 CP936UNI.TBL VC OVL 114,993 08-03-03 22:53 VC.OVL VCNEWS TXT 31,102 06-02-00 0:08 VCNEWS.TXT ASM MNU 65 06-02-00 0:08 ASM.MNU FILE_ID DIZ 311 06-02-00 0:08 FILE_ID.DIZ VCARCH EXT 5,525 06-02-00 0:08 VCARCH.EXT VCFILTER EXT 1,020 06-02-00 0:08 VCFILTER.EXT VCINFO TXT 4,605 06-02-00 0:08 VCINFO.TXT VCSITES TXT 1,829 06-02-00 0:08 VCSITES.TXT 46 file(s) 1,346,241 bytes

Floor14　jhhjwok	Posted 2003-08-14 00:00
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GOOD！！！ LK could you upload the download link for the “graphical drawn interface” Chinese boot disk???