China DOS Union

A woman claiming to be a college student made a confession post, and a gentleman's reply was written so brilliantly that I am reposting it below: : I am a female college student from Shanghai, new here. I really can't understand what exactly the Japanese ever did to you to make you hate them so much. Now I know: you're jealous! I can see it from the filthy faces of you so-called "patriots"—you yourselves know that you are inferior to the Japanese, and especially as men, you Chinese men feel unbearably inferior. Since childhood I've liked Japan and Japanese people. My biggest dream is to marry a Japanese man, and many of my friends around me think the same way. I know there will definitely be some so-called "decent gentlemen" who will "righteously" accuse us of having "no dignity." But as women, we will always choose the strong as our husbands. Can you Chinese men even count as the strong? Your population is ten times Japan's, and your resources and territory are who knows how many times greater, but does the average wealth created per person even reach one percent of what Japanese men create? Is your behavioral quality even one percent as high as that of Japanese men? The answer is no. As Chinese men, you have an absolute geographical advantage, but in war you couldn't beat Japan, in economics you can't beat Japan, in physical fitness, science and technology, literature, education... which of you is stronger than Japan? You Chinese men don't even feel ashamed yourselves, yet you still have the nerve to blame us women? You failed in your responsibility and brought shame to your ancestors, yet you still point fingers at us and shirk responsibility—this can only make me, as a Chinese woman, feel ashamed. I am going to marry a Japanese man; I will only choose the strong! You so-called "patriots" have no ability except cursing people online. If you had the ability, you'd make your own country good enough that Japanese women would dream all day of marrying Chinese men, and Japanese actresses would wear Chinese military-flag outfits—but you don't have that ability! You are useless! All day long you shout that Japan should apologize, but in this world, is there any logic in the strong apologizing to the weak? Why would Japan rather apologize to Koreans than to China? Because you Chinese men aren't even as good as Korean men, so what can we women still expect from you?! That's what I want to say. I know there will certainly be plenty of people coming to curse me, but it doesn't matter, because I see through you!
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I know this Miss Shanghai—whether you're really from Shanghai or somewhere else in China doesn't matter. You may not even see what I'm saying below, but just because you don't see it doesn't mean I won't say it. I am not speaking for you; I am speaking for myself, and for all patriotic Chinese compatriots. So don't think you're such a big deal. You're only a college student, and I graduated from college a long time ago. With my social experience and life experience added in, I can basically be your mentor. So in the future, please don't keep saying "I am a college student" at the drop of a hat; people will laugh at you. There are many college students here who can't find work. I looked over what you said and analyzed your basic viewpoint: Chinese people have poor quality, low standards, and are looked down upon by the Japanese; you like the strong, you think the Japanese are the strong, so you want to marry a Japanese person. I don't think I got that wrong. First let's talk about the quality of Chinese people. I won't talk about all the storms and upheavals before Liberation, but after Liberation China eliminated the four pests, the people's sense of being masters of the country was brought into full play, everyone worked hard in production for the country and for the nation, and the people's moral standards rose to an unprecedented height, even to the point of not needing to bolt the door at night. What a strong sense of self-discipline that required. I think this degree of nationwide unity was no worse than Japan's bushido spirit. But the disaster of the Cultural Revolution caused tremendous harm to the Chinese people. It not only destroyed China's economy, it also destroyed the cultural quality and moral quality of the Chinese people. The true starting point of modern China's moral standards should be after the Cultural Revolution, when spiritual civilization construction began again in 1976. Therefore, the real development of China's economy should be counted from 1976 onward. In the short span of 27 years, the quality of the Chinese people has improved to an unprecedented degree. Whether in the economy, social culture, public infrastructure, sports, and so on, there has been leapfrog development. I think that's no worse than Japan. There is still room for improvement in the quality of Chinese people, but have the Japanese reached the summit? Have they reached perfection? Now let us look at Japanese social phenomena. After Japan surrendered, with U.S. support, the Japanese economy developed rapidly, the Japanese people worked diligently, and Japan has many things worthy of praise. But that cannot let one beauty cover a hundred uglinesses. Why was Japan able to develop so rapidly after defeat? Japanese economists have said that Japan should thank China, because the Chinese government voluntarily gave up Japanese war reparations, and that sum played a huge role in Japan's economic development. What broad-mindedness this was, what courage it required. But Mao Zedong made such a decision—for what? Only so that China and Japan could take history as a lesson and coexist peacefully, so that the people of both countries could live happily. But how did Japan treat China in return? There is no love without reason in this world, and no hate without reason either. When I was little I never hated Japan. On the contrary, I liked Japanese cartoon characters like Ikkyu-san and Hana no Ko Lunlun, and I liked watching Japanese TV dramas like Police Dog Carl and Ketsueki-gata, and I also liked Ken Takakura. But why is it that after growing up I came to hate Japan with unforgettable intensity? This is not the result of Chinese government propaganda, because the Chinese government has one-sidedly and wishfully been promoting Sino-Japanese friendship. When Japanese people run into trouble in China, the care they receive is better than what Chinese people receive; they can even be called a privileged class. Yet under such government propaganda, the hostility of ordinary Chinese people toward Japan still cannot be erased. Why? Let us look at what Japan did to us. I won't even go into the invasion of China by Japan. We all know how Japan used blades to chop off Chinese people's heads. At the instant the head fell, blood spurted from the carotid artery in the neck, while the face on that head still struggled desperately, mouth gaping wide trying hard to breathe—but it was futile. Faced with such beasts, the Chinese people repaid evil with kindness. But what about Japan? Japan repeatedly revised textbooks, denied the massacre, denied the invasion. This is as if I killed your father, wantonly desecrated his corpse, and then told people I didn't kill him, that he was stupid and deserved to die, that he was useless and deserved to die. I don't think you would accept such a thing. Nor would I accept it, because I need to put myself in others' place. Have you ever done that? This kind of thinking is the basic thinking a person should do before doing things. Germany, like Japan, had militarism and massacred Jews, but if you ask today's Jews, how many of them hate Germans? Have you asked? I have asked. He said, I do not hate Germans, but I hate German fascists. Why? Because Germany is a nation that is open and aboveboard. "A kneeling German is taller than a standing Japanese"—that saying is not without reason. Every successive German chancellor has solemnly apologized to the victims of World War II and shed tears of repentance before memorials to the victims. I know you will say that only represents the chancellor personally. My answer is—wrong. Why? If a person can sit in the position of chancellor, without the support of the people he would have no chance to become chancellor. Therefore his repentance represents the repentance of all Germans. If the German public did not feel ashamed of World War II, then I think after apologizing the German chancellor would have received endless abuse. But did the German public curse him? No. By the same logic, the reason Japanese prime ministers can repeatedly pay visits is precisely because they have the support of the people. If only a small portion supported it, a Japanese prime minister would absolutely not dare to do such things. So, it can be said that present-day Japan, from top to bottom, opposes acknowledging the history of aggression, opposes acknowledging war and massacre. Tell me, if a people cannot even acknowledge the most basic historical facts, what credibility do they have to speak of? And if a people do not even have basic credibility, can they still be called an excellent people? I know you will say Japanese people are trustworthy, and that this can be seen from Japan's economic development. If Japan were not trustworthy, then it would not win customers' recognition, right? Correct. Here is the key: after the war Japan vigorously developed its economy, and keeping trust is the basic rule of commercial dealings. The purpose was to obtain customers' orders and make profits. But if this basic purpose did not exist, then what would Japan be like? Let me tell you a reality: Japan's subway uses sectional fares, but there is often no ticket check at the exit, so many people buy a one-stop ticket and ride three stops or even more. Is this honesty? You are educated; I think you have basic judgment. In China's Three Gorges Project, a Japanese enterprise sold the Chinese side 500 tons of high-quality steel. Sample inspection showed that unbelievably, all of it was unqualified. If such materials had been used in the Three Gorges Project, what serious consequences would there have been? If you don't know, let me give an example: you might end up swimming on the street. When the Chinese side demanded a return, Japan actually said China's inspection technology was unscientific and not rigorous. Even if that were so, why couldn't it pass even under supposedly unscientific and non-rigorous testing? What right did you still have to lecture the Chinese side? The fact is that later the Japanese side's test results were the same as the Chinese side's, and in the end the goods were still returned. The products Japan sells to China are all third-rate products, and the technical cooperation it provides China is all outdated technology. I'm not making this up or spreading rumors. People who have been to developed European countries all know what it's like. The newest Japanese MD models or other goods marketed in China are already obsolete products in Europe, not commonly seen in Japan, yet in China they are touted as the latest technology and sold at extremely high prices. This is typical commercial discrimination. If a country and nation cannot even be fair in commerce, where trustworthiness is supposed to matter, then what is there about it that deserves our good feelings? You say China's national industry is backward. I admit China is behind in some fields, but in many more fields China has caught up from behind. In color TVs, rear-projection TVs, CPU (Japan still has not developed its own CPU), air conditioners, refrigerators, shipbuilding, aviation, and so on, hasn't China done no worse than the Japanese? Think about how China started later than Japan, on a land from which Chiang Kai-shek carried away all the gold and property, and yet from 1976 to now, in a mere 27 years, reached this level. How many people, and how much effort, did that take? Could Americans do it? Could Japanese? In the military industry, can Japan do better than China? Japan's F2 fighter is just a modified enlargement of the American F16 by 15%. Japan has no complete wind tunnel of its own, nor China's strong technical reserves in aerodynamics, and can only copy ready-made American things. Japan's Type 90 tank is very advanced; getting inside feels like entering a luxury car. But too much energy and money were not put on the key points. Its tank gun was bought from Germany, because it does not have that technology or manufacturing capability, whereas the firepower of China's Type 98 tank's 125 gun can still penetrate 500—900 mm of homogeneous armor at a distance of 4000 meters. Put vividly, even America's most advanced M1A2 cannot do that. You say Chinese people have no quality, so how could people with no quality accomplish these world-shocking achievements? They have amazed the world. As a Chinese person, I am incomparably proud and honored. I think this is a feeling you will not have, because in your article there are expressions everywhere like "you Chinese people." Long ago you already regarded yourself as Japanese. So I think on this point you can be said to be numb. A person who lacks even the most basic patriotism—what right does such a person have to use Chinese characters here to express opinions?—Because you abandoned your country, abandoned the motherland that gave birth to you and raised you. You will say the ones who gave birth to you and raised you were your parents? Yes, it was your parents who gave birth to you and raised you, but if there had been no country, if there had been no contributions made by the Communist Party for the country and the people, I think your father would long ago have had his head chopped off by the Japanese devils, your mother would long ago have become a comfort woman, and then where would you have had the chance or right to speak here? I won't curse you with anything; just look at reality: Koyama Chire (formerly He Zhili), I do not want to call it by its Chinese name, because it is Japanese. I have never regarded it as Chinese. The descendants of Yan and Huang would feel unbearable shame to have such offspring. We are enraged. That Japanese woman who, for Japan, shouted "Yoshi" in the stadium—how is it living in Japan now? No one sympathizes with it. Including its parents. It once defeated Deng Yaping, but what about now? In the most recent table tennis championships it was eliminated in the first round. Ever since it went to Japan it has never again won a championship, while Chinese table tennis players still stand firmly on the world champion's podium. Why? Because of the powerful support of the motherland, because of excellent coaches like Cai Zhenhua, who gave up generous treatment abroad and willingly devoted themselves to the country. I don't think you would say he isn't outstanding, right? In swimming, gym* basketball, fencing, long-distance running, diving, weightlifting, and many other sports, China is at the forefront of the world; in Asia it is the strongest sporting nation, its strength many times higher than the Japan you adore. You say Chinese sports are propped up by women, but do you know how great the gap is between men's and women's champions in the same events? You don't. Merely because of your wishful love and admiration for Japan, you lump yourself into the ranks of the "excellent" Japanese people and then heap slander on Chinese people, especially Chinese men. Don't forget: when China fights wars it still relies on men; the dominant force in developing the economy is still men; the overwhelming majority guiding China's political direction are still men;—at the very least, your mother still had to *** your father in order for you to exist!!! You say Chinese science and technology are no good? I think you are deceiving yourself. Is Japan really that good in science and technology? Has it made very outstanding achievements in the field of basic theoretical research? You may think basic theoretical research is unimportant, but that is utterly wrong. Japan certainly has its unique strengths, namely manufacturing. In this respect they are very advanced; even the United States has to admit it. But what is the foundation of the development of these manufacturing industries? It is basic theory. China has achieved outstanding results in mathematics, physics, chemistry, and many other areas. If your knowledge in this area is lacking, you can read Chinese science magazines. They can broaden your knowledge, and only then can you measure up to the Japanese you love. You say if China is so good, why can't it catch up with Japan? Fine, then let me tell you: China's 9.6 million square kilometers of land and 56 ethnic groups, at the time of Liberation, all had very weak economic foundations, military foundations, science and technology, and so forth. If the Japanese government had faced such circumstances, whether it could have governed well would be a huge question. But China did it. From 1976 onward, in 27 years, China kept developing at high speed, making outstanding contributions to the world's economic development. As a government that dares to shoulder responsibility in the world, China did not devalue the Renminbi during the Asian financial storm, making huge sacrifices for the recovery of Asia's economy, while the Japanese government, for its own interests, arbitrarily devalued the yen, harming others to benefit itself. This is the style of your "excellent Yamato nation." I don't know what you think of that!! I am not saying Chinese people have no shortcomings, nor that the Chinese government is perfect. Chinese people do have many shortcomings. This is a problem we now and in the future must bravely face. Chinese people do not lack wisdom, courage, perseverance, or diligence, so what do we lack? We lack confidence, and in moral cultivation there is still much work to do. Every nation has shortcomings, and Japan is the same, but we dare to face reality. We are continually strengthening public sanitation, infrastructure, and moral education. We have seen the self-discipline of the people growing higher and higher: fewer people litter, fewer people curse, and in public places people pay more attention to civility and courtesy. But what we have done is not good enough; there is still much room for improvement. At least we dare to face it. Japan does have many strengths, but does it have no weaknesses? Do you know the dark side of the Japanese people? Have you been to Japan? You haven't, but I have. Japanese people are very proper in social etiquette, but being polite to you does not mean being friendly to you. Many friends who went to Japan before me told me that Japanese people are courteous on the surface, but in reality keep you at arm's length. It is very hard for foreigners truly to integrate into Japanese society. Under Japan's shell of politeness, what is there?—In the place where I lived, girls' underwear was often stolen. This is not an isolated phenomenon, but a very common one. The degree of sexual openness among Japanese can be said to rival and surpass Europe and America. Japan's pornography industry is world-famous; other than the United States, it is Japan. And Japanese pornographic films rank first in the world in terms of perversion. You say this is personal freedom. Fine, then let me ask you: if your Japanese husband went out every night to hire prostitutes or had other sexual partners, I don't think you would call that personal freedom, would you? A person cannot have double standards; then there are no standards at all. And you are exactly that kind of ignorant woman with no standards, who lavishly praises Japanese men purely out of wishful thinking. You say you went to college and are not ignorant. Then let me tell you: so did I, and I was even a lecturer. But the ability of a student who has just graduated from university still falls far short of society's basic demands on a person's ability. You still have a long road ahead of you. I have a friend who married a Japanese woman. This woman would often tell my friend to go hire prostitutes, saying it was to keep things fresh. I am not making up stories; I am speaking of facts! I don't think you would let your own man go hire prostitutes, would you??? Chinese people have shortcomings, but we dare to face them and strive to correct them. But what about Japan? Faced with its own various disgraceful acts, it turns a blind eye. Is that the style of an excellent nation? On the issue of World War II, it repeatedly tries to overturn the verdict and beautify the war. Is that human behavior? A nation that does not dare face its shortcomings, and instead covers for them—I cannot see where its excellence lies. You may say the Chinese government is not a competent government. Yes, I admit the Chinese government has problems, and Chinese social institutions are imperfect, but the Chinese government at least lets you get so full you can come here and say you love Japan. You despise China, despise the Chinese government, despise all Chinese people, but at least remember this: wherever you go, people will say you are Chinese. Your blood carries the blood of Yan and Huang. If you so despise being a descendant of Yan and Huang, then please do not carry your ancestors' blood while cursing your ancestors! Do you know what Japanese people in China most love to talk about? Chinese women. They talk about how comfortable Chinese women are, how they ravage Chinese women. This reminds me of the compatriots humiliated and killed in China during World War II. Rage—any Chinese person with blood and spirit would never forgive the beastliness of the Japanese. —And you are nothing more than Japan's next toy to conquer and then discard. I will not grieve for you, because you are not Chinese.

Haha, it seems nobody is interested in reading this...

Maybe it's because the text is too long.

I actually saw this on other forums a long time ago, and the reaction was pretty strong.
I believe it really happened. If we analyze the reasons, I think first of all it's the education system where everything is set up for exams, turning political and history education—which ought to shape people's souls—into nothing more than answers to put on test papers; then there is the influence of a social climate where money and enjoyment are above everything else, as well as the spread of extreme selfishness, and so on.

I think what was written in that book I recommended last time was quite good: the Cultural Revolution not only destroyed China's economy, it also destroyed the psychological quality of the Chinese people... their outlook on life, worldview, and values...
The upright ones, those who told the truth, those unwilling to submit, were all brought down...

Hehe, just talking about the Japanese isn't enough; at the very least we really do have some shortcomings too, and we should change ourselves a bit as well

Start with ourselves, and let others see it.

Very good analysis, but I think it's still better not to say it. Why waste your breath lecturing this kind of woman.

Where there is light there are shadows
Where there are people there will be thoughts
Where there are thoughts there will be struggle
What worries me most is: will poor people still be able to study in the future?
Nowadays many newspapers often publish reports about such-and-such person or such-and-such company sponsoring poor students and so on
It makes it seem like there are kind-hearted people everywhere in society now.
But my feeling is that more and more people can't afford schooling.
In my dad's work unit alone, over a hundred laid-off workers still haven't received living expenses up to now
Faced with tuition fees that easily run into ten thousand, who are these people supposed to ask for aid?
No money means no schooling, no schooling means falling behind
Fall behind and you'll get beaten, get eliminated
And the outlook on life of that college miss who did study is also something that leaves me dumbfounded.

Hehe, I won't say it, I won't say it

A person like her is worse than a Japanese person's dog.