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DOS汉化世界 & 中文系统 (中文化室) » Questions about "Chinese DOS software without Chinese platforms"?
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Floor1 雨露 Posted 2008-11-20 10:22
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Generally, the Chinese versions of common DOS software need to run or display Chinese characters normally under a Chinese DOS platform, but some DOS software like DiskGen don't. Why? Some people say that graphical Chinese characters are used. I tried to unpack the main program of the latest version of Disk Genius V2.00.0230 under DOS, then extracted the characters with editer, and found that it was no different from common DOS software. The main menus were also simplified Chinese sentences, phrases or word groups. After translating the Chinese into English and writing it back to the original software, it became an English software and could run normally. Of course, Chinese is a very concise language, and it is much more difficult to translate a Chinese software into English than to localize an English software into Chinese!
Floor2 本是 Posted 2008-11-20 10:45
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No matter what method is used, whether in graphic mode or character mode, to display Chinese character shapes, it is necessary to call Chinese character models. If the character models are not stored in hardware such as the graphics card, one has to call the character models pre - stored in memory or external storage (such as hard disk files, fixed hard disk sectors) by oneself.

In the main program, "no abnormalities" depends on whether it calls the overlay module, and it may even be among fake data files on the surface.

——Because a computer is not a human brain——It won't be haunted, right! ^_^ So scary oh!
Floor3 sanchuan Posted 2008-11-29 01:12
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In the DOS environment, the Chinese platform needs to solve all aspects of Chinese character information input and output. For the localized version of DOS software, it mainly solves the screen output, and compared with the Chinese platform, its program structure is quite simple. Secondly, GB code has more than 7,000 characters, and there are only more than 3,000 first-level Chinese characters. Among the more than 3,000 first-level Chinese characters, only more than 1,000 are commonly used. In a localized software - especially a DOS software, the number of non - repeated Chinese characters is at most about 200, and its font data is about 7K. Compared with the font data in the Chinese platform, it is just a fraction.
Floor4 雨露 Posted 2008-11-29 08:02
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If you just need to display a Chinese interface of a localized DOS software, there are very few such Chinese platforms. Is there one with less than 200K and no logo? Forget about Xiuzhenlong, it has poor compatibility and the displayed characters don't look good!
Floor5 wang6610 Posted 2008-11-29 10:29
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Originally posted by Yulu at 2008-11-29 08:02 AM:
If you just need to display a Chinese interface of a localized DOS software, there are very few such Chinese platforms. Is there any that is less than 200K and has no logo? Let's forget about Pocket Dragon, as it has poor compatibility and the displayed characters are not very nice!



It would be great if a Chinese platform could be made that can customize the font library according to the Chinese characters in the software (even if extracted manually).

Input methods are optional.

[ Last edited by wang6610 on 2008-11-29 at 10:31 ]
Floor6 sanchuan Posted 2008-11-29 10:41
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A Chinese platform with good compatibility and less than 200K is definitely non-existent - the GB Chinese character library cannot be less than 200K. The question raised by the landlord should be about solving the problem of the Chinese character display driver? If so, so far only Mr. Ben Shi is solving this problem - the only Chinese character driver program that can be loaded in Config.
By the way, add that I hope Mr. Ben Shi's future works will be widely universal, have good compatibility, and have simple interfaces or parameters.
Floor7 本是 Posted 2008-11-29 15:53
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Originally posted by wang6610 at 2008-11-20 10:29:
It would be great if a Chinese platform that can customize the font library according to the Chinese characters in the software (even if manually extracted) could be developed.
Input methods can be selected.
[ Last edited by wang6610 on 2008-11-29 at 10:31 ]


"There has long been a 'Chinese platform that customizes the font library'. The ACIOS.exe of YAYA Simplified Version 4.0, but it just doesn't support input. (Other versions support it, but they don't customize the font library.)

The smallest Chinese character system occupies 16k of memory
http://www.cn-dos.net/forum/viewthread.php?tid=21760&fpage=2
『Post 72』: ACIOS simplified version 4.0
Load the *.fon Chinese font library generated by this site's MKfon.com (http://www.cn-dos.net/forum/attachment.php?aid=2722&checkid=dfce0&download=1). The font library can accommodate 256 non - repeating Chinese characters. ACIOS.exe only occupies 6k, and after loading, it occupies 12176 bytes of memory.
Attachment 1: Acios Simplified 4.rar (2007-1-25 06:02, 6.8 K) http://www.cn-dos.net/forum/attachment.php?aid=2812&checkid=29c06&download=1
Floor8 雨露 Posted 2008-11-29 16:19
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How is the Chinese characters (Guoqiao) displayed in the built-in system of the SPFDisk software achieved?
Floor9 本是 Posted 2008-11-29 16:32
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This is the graphic Chinese character. There are many like CL, CREAD, STC, TTE, VTTE, TM, etc. They are all built-in small Chinese character libraries and their indices, and then display graphic Chinese characters. I myself once expanded the versions of Gan Baocai and Wu Xiaojun, which can display vertical and horizontal enlargement, rotation, underline, etc. Now no one needs them.
Floor10 雨露 Posted 2008-11-29 16:34
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If it's convenient, master, can you provide it? There are too few such materials!
Floor11 雨露 Posted 2008-11-29 16:41
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It's almost off work. Finally, I want to ask the master. When I was localizing some software, for example, when localizing the command parsing program command.com of FreeDOS 1.0, I found that the copyright information that appears when it starts up cannot be extracted with editor2. (s:3) It is guessed that it is encrypted, and when extracted, it becomes garbled code, so it cannot be found. Is that right?
Floor12 wang6610 Posted 2008-11-29 17:03
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Floor13 本是 Posted 2008-11-29 17:17
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Originally posted by Yulu at 2008-11-29 16:41:
It's almost off work. Finally, I still want to ask the master. When I was localizing some software, for example, when localizing the command parser command.com of FreeDOS 1.0, I found that the copyright information that appears when it starts up cannot be extracted with editor2, (s:3) it is guessed that it is encrypted, and it becomes garbled when extracted, so I can't find it, right?


It should be.
Floor14 本是 Posted 2008-11-29 17:19
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Originally posted by Yulu at 2008-11-29 16:34:
If it's convenient, master, can you provide it? There are too few such materials!


If really someone needs it, I can consider putting it up. But it's been a long time, and it needs to be sorted out.
Floor15 xugaohui Posted 2008-11-29 17:32
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There are also people using the same technology as vt system software to display Chinese characters.
http://bbs.wuyou.com/viewthread.php?tid=131706&extra=page%3D1&page=1
This thing is very good.
Currently, vt tools are mainly used in config menus and batch processing. If you want to use the same technology in Qbasic, can it be done? It would be great to have a bas sample program.
When running the generated Chinese - displaying program, running other programs with ascii tab characters will cause garbled display or half - Chinese characters.

Yulu:
The command.com of freedos after Chinese localization can only run under freedos. Directly replacing the command.com of msdos 7.1 will not work.
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