China DOS Union

I support setting up a DOS Union. From the rapid development of the forum over these past few days, I have realized the importance of combining everyone's strength. Only by learning from each other's strong points can we get our DOS to develop.
So how exactly should the Union unite? Right now, using a shared guestbook and forum has already successfully taken the first step, but whether the sites that need it should next be combined into one whole is worth discussing.
If the participating sites are unified into a single site, with each person responsible for different work, the advantage is unified management, avoiding waste of resources, and the Union's organization would be tighter, and everyone's relationship would also be closer.
But I do not really agree with unifying into one website, because unification has the following disadvantages:
1. Space capacity and stability issues. If joined together, first of all, naturally, larger website space would be needed, and that kind of space is not easy to find. Another issue is stability. This needs no explanation; everyone understands it. If this space is unstable or even cannot operate for a fairly long time, what should the Union do? We are not large sites like NetEase or Sina, using professional servers + redundancy + 24-hour professional maintenance.
2. Another is the human risk issue. I do not doubt the character of my friends at all, but sometimes it is also a good thing to first imagine the consequences more seriously. For example, if I had a big quarrel with Wengier, it would be extremely easy for me to delete his whole site in anger, because we share the same space. Of course, the possibility of such a serious situation happening on the Union site is very small; the greater possibility is instead encountering destruction by hackers. But this kind of destruction would also be fatal to the Union, and might also cause mutual suspicion and distrust!
3. There is also the issue of new allies joining. If he also has his own website, what should be done? Tell him to shut down his site before coming in?
4. There is also the issue of individuality. We all join this Union as individuals. Aside from the common trait of liking DOS, each of us also has our own individuality. For example, I want to research input methods; after unification, where should this content be placed? Make another website?
So I feel it would be better to keep it divided into several websites, and carry out unification and division of labor/cooperation to a certain extent. Although in this way the Union would be relatively loose, in reality we come from all over the country, and it is inherently not easy to form a tight group. Also, in the special environment of the network, this would be easier to do well. When the time is truly ripe and it is necessary to unify together, it will still not be too late for us to unify the websites then.
This is a bit of my own opinion; please also talk about your own opinions.

I have this idea: revise the “New DOS Era” website and turn it into the main site of “China DOS Union.” Besides keeping the original content, add various content such as free software, while other Union members can decorate the Union main site (such as page design, animation effects, etc.). At the same time, they would still keep their own websites, and in prominent positions on the “China DOS Union” main site there would also be links to each member site and detailed introductions. How about it?

Imitate the operating model of Hanzify New Century.

I am not clear on the specific situation of “Hanzify New Century.” Could you introduce it?

Everyone should have seen the rapid increase in the number of posts over the past few days. The unification of the DOS Union is already the trend of the times. If we want to develop, we cannot be too scattered. Only centralized management and concerted effort can produce things of value, because people's energy is limited, and no one can take care of everything. Everyone should bring out the greatest energy in specialized areas according to their strengths. What we rely on is the collective cooperation of everyone's screw-like spirit, not the all-around talent of one person or a few people.
Regarding Teacher Mo's several worries, I have the following views:
1. Regarding space: The new Union website, apart from software downloads, should not take up a lot of space. The space of WENGIER's New Era is already enough now. As for software downloads, broadband networks are becoming more and more common now, and many netizens already have personal servers. Among the current moderators there are Suifengshun and Fang Shao; some even keep their machines on 24 hours a day (for example, many network administrators of internet cafés, who themselves also like DOS quite a bit). Considering stability and time, we can set up several more servers. If each one provides a few hours, it can also guarantee downloads 24 hours a day. In fact, DOS software also will not take up too much space, and this way it will not affect each server being used for other purposes. On the Union website (actually WENGIER's New Era), just make links for software downloads (make several more download addresses). If space on a more stable professional server is truly needed, we can mobilize netizens to make voluntary donations (donate money or donate space). I also believe netizens will definitely support it.
2. Regarding “differences” and conflicts: Will we have this problem? Normal differences of opinion in the course of development are certainly there, but I do not believe there will be the kind of “differences” Teacher Mo mentioned. Our Union is not some commercial alliance, nor is it some kind of community organization. Everything is voluntary. Everyone determined to do this Union well is quietly making selfless contributions, so there is no so-called “profit”; at the same time, what everyone is considering is how to better promote DOS domestically, develop DOS, and do some real work. That so-called fight for “fame” is also completely meaningless (I wonder whether Teacher Mo thinks so?). Will these “fames” make anyone go down in history and last forever? If the Union develops, all the moderators will also become known. This fame is not that kind of “fame”; it is an affirmation of everyone's work. It is real, not empty fame. I do not believe Teacher Mo would hack the Union website just because he disagreed with WENGIER, and I also do not believe other netizens who support and care for the Union would do such a thing. In fact, differences are present at all times. Even now, doesn't everyone have differences about unifying the website? But no unpleasantness or conflicts have occurred. What everyone is considering is all for the good of the Union. Even if, later on, as the Union keeps developing and growing, there appear a few members with such intentions, they should be immediately removed from the Union for stability. As for the hacker issue, this does not seem to have much to do with whether there is a unified Union website, right? If hackers want to hack it, they can also hack WENGIER's site now. To avoid this kind of thing happening, several mirror sites can be made for the Union website as backup and supplement for the main site. At the same time, if there are more experts to maintain and manage it, the Union website will be even safer. I am convinced that hacking a unified site must be much harder than hacking New Era.
3. Regarding the Union main site and personal sites: I very much agree with WENGIER's opinion, namely to remodel and upgrade DOS New Era into the Union main site, while also allowing the existence of other personal sites, forming a satellite website system centered on the Union main site. Personal sites would serve as beneficial supplements to the Union website and as space for personal imagination and development, but they must have their own personal characteristics and do not represent the Union website officially. They would also be allowed to put up non-DOS or non-OS stuff. Here, Chanzong's personal site is a very good model, and I rather admire it. In this way, it can both ensure the overall interests of the Union and safeguard the personal rights and interests of the members. In fact, the only one who suffers a loss is WENGIER. His New Era will make a sacrifice for the Union website (New Era will no longer exist), and WENGIER should, without a doubt, be the future alliance leader or chief webmaster. (At the same time, I do not suggest that personal sites have stuff that duplicates the Union website. But they may contain their personal software or articles.)
The above are my personal views in response to Teacher Mo's opinions. I am a person who does not like to echo others and irresponsibly say things are good. No matter how well something is done, I like to find shortcomings and put forward my personal views. The purpose is to make our DOS Union do better and be more complete.

Like in Hanzify New Century's operating model, everyone has a division of labor and cooperates. I am posting their approach here, and also helping give them a bit of publicity. Hehe.
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Century directors-----------------吕达嵘 炎之川
Main responsibilities: site planning, page updates.
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Patch collection-----------------吕达嵘
Main responsibilities: collect the latest Chinese localization patches.
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Chinese localization teaching-----------------乾 炎之川
Main responsibilities: collect and organize Chinese-localization tutorial articles, introduce the latest Chinese localization techniques.
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Chinese localization tools-----------------乾
Main responsibilities: collect and organize the latest Chinese localization tools.
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Chinese localization exchange-----------------Ronnier 炎之川 飞鹰
Main responsibilities: Chinese localization technical exchange, answer questions related to Chinese localization techniques.
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Century affairs-----------------炎之川
Main responsibilities: handle affairs inside and outside Century, accept new member applications.
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　　All members publish works to the Century site through autonomous upload.
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----Through the full cooperation of all members, Hanzify New Century finally met everyone on the eve of the Spring Festival of the millennium. The joys and sorrows in between can only be fully appreciated by the members
who participated in the website construction. This review does not represent a historical summary of Hanzify New Century. We have written out the process of building the site only to let more people understand the birth process of Hanzify New
Century; to let more people truly understand Hanzify New Century's goals; to let more people join Hanzify New Century on the basis of understanding; and to let more people pass through
Hanzify New Century into the hall of computers……
----On some day in the future, when we again look back on the growth history of Hanzify New Century, we sincerely hope that our Hanzify New Century will no longer have any meaning to exist, because by that
time, China's IT industry will already be at the peak of the world!
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I. Conceiving Century
1---The conception of Hanzify New Century began with the contact between 森林大地 and 伟乾. After 大地 and 伟乾 discussed 大地's Chinese Localization Supermarket, 大地 first invited
伟乾 to jointly build Chinese Localization Supermarket. On this basis, 伟乾 sent everyone an E-Mail. After everyone received 伟乾's E-Mail, they unanimously agreed to cooperate in building a
large-scale free Chinese localization site. The initial cooperating members included: 伟, 乾, 吕达嵘, 森林大地, rapid, YY. But everyone put their hearts into the construction of Hanzify New Century, especially 伟 and 大地, who made immeasurable contributions to Century.
----When we first began discussing cooperation, everyone was still in a vague state regarding the method of cooperation, the content of cooperation, and the goal of cooperation. For this reason, 乾 applied for an unpublished
message board as a place for everyone to express opinions. This message board can be said to be the witness to Hanzify New Century from conception to growth and all the way to its appearance. This review is organized according to
the contents of the message board. After everyone's discussion, we finally unified the direction for building the site. We wanted to build a completely open free Chinese localization site. We are not any
alliance, nor are we some high-and-mighty authority. We are a common home for all free Chinese localizers; we advocate freedom and reject monopoly; we sincerely hope that
all free Chinese localizers, whether novices or veterans, can join our Hanzify New Century, and let us jointly create a free new century of Chinese localization.
----Our purpose is: “Chinese localization patches are free, Chinese localization techniques are free, and we reject any monopolistic behavior.”
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II. Approaching Century
1---After we established the fundamental purpose of Hanzify New Century, Century's construction officially began. Like all friends building personal homepages, we also faced all the problems personal
homepage builders face, such as space, domain names, and so on. Behind us there was no special support; what we had was only a heart full of passion!
----The most critical issue was space. We successively applied for free homepage space at Shanghai Netsheng, Guangzhou 168, Leshan Jiazhou, and others, but these spaces either had no reply at all or had unsatisfactory service. Without enough space, Hanzify New Century could only be a beautiful wish. Just when we were at our wits' end over space, we finally found the Entertainment 2000 free homepage space that we are currently using (later, because of some of its problems, all data was lost and Century was closed for several days. Through the redoubled efforts of all members, with the support of Shantou Golden Coast, Century was rebuilt and reopened), and the application was successful. Century finally had a place to live.
----In the process of looking for space, we did not stop other preparatory work. During this, we discussed various related issues of the new site. Just for the site name, we successively proposed Hanzify New World, Hanzify New Force, Hanzify Space-Time, Hanzify Hall, New Century Hanzify City, Hanzify Square, China Hanzify Star (Light), Hanzify Star (Light), Chinese Hanzify Website, Hanzify Chinese Net, Hanzify Concentration Camp, Hanzify New Era, China Hanzify Gate, China Hanzify Garden, Hanzify Station, Starlight Avenue, Genesis, Century Star, China Star, Unity Is Strength, Chinese Brothers, and so on…… In the end, with everyone's unanimous agreement, we decided to use our current name—Hanzify New Century, English name—Hanzify. At the same time, we also applied for multiple different domain names and contact mailboxes.
----After deciding the above issues, we began discussing the website structure, software classification, and other matters. Finally, using 森林大地's Chinese Localization Supermarket classification as a blueprint, we determined Hanzify New Century's current software categories, divided into five major categories and forty items in total.
----During this period, at the arrival of the millennium, several of our cooperating sites jointly issued our Century Declaration. Later, rapid was unable to continue participating in the cooperation due to personal work reasons, but we still stuck to our original intention. Our Century Declaration also caused some people's misunderstandings, but we believe that the most fundamental purpose of our work is to let more people use computers conveniently and effectively, thereby promoting the development of our country's computer industry. If on some day in the future we no longer have any meaning to exist, we will sincerely bless the development of our country's IT technology!
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III. Creating Century
----After solving various preliminary problems, the construction of Hanzify New Century entered the substantive stage. Based on the Chinese localization patches collected in 森林大地's Chinese Localization Supermarket, we began the collection, organization, and moving of Chinese localization patches from the major domestic Chinese localization sites. In this process, we tried our best to collect Chinese localization patches for various commonly used software in various different versions, as well as the original software, and moved them to our new site. This work went on for more than a week. During this, many thanks to Huajun Software Park, Feilong Pavilion, New Starting Point Studio, Zhang Xuesi's Hanzify Cabin and other software download sites and Chinese localization sites; a large amount of our software and patches were obtained from the above sites. While moving software, we sped up page design. 大地 designed the page template, and on this basis, 森林大地, 伟, and YY together classified the collected software and made links, and 大地 uniformly revised and improved them.
----During this process, a relatively influential domestic newspaper—“XX Newspaper”—once discussed cooperation matters with us. However, because the rejection of monopoly that we advocated fundamentally conflicted with their requirement for exclusive publication of Chinese localization patches, in the end we could not reach a consensus.
----After repeatedly modifying the page style, we finally presented Hanzify New Century to everyone on the eve of the Spring Festival of the millennium! All of this is the painstaking effort of all Hanzify New Century members, and it is a gift we present on the eve of the Spring Festival to all friends who have always supported us and all free Chinese localizers.
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1------------December 25, 1999------伟乾 issued the proposal
---------1---December 25, 1999------message board opened
1------------December 28, 1999------cooperation method determined
1------------December 31, 1999------main site name determined
1------------January 1, 2000--------each cooperating site published the “Century Declaration”
1------------January 2, 2000--------Netsheng space opened
1------------January 3, 2000--------the first webpage template designed by 伟 appeared
1------------January 3, 2000--------site software classification determined
1------------January 5, 2000--------the first webpage template designed by 大地 appeared
1------------January 11, 2000-------applied for site forum
1------------January 14, 2000-------“XX Newspaper” requested cooperation
1------------January 17, 2000-------software category directories established
1------------January 18, 2000-------began moving site software
1------------January 18, 2000-------decided to give up Netsheng homepage space
1------------January 20, 2000-------webpage style designed by 大地 determined
1------------January 21, 2000-------Entertainment 2000 space application approved
1------------January 21, 2000-------officially began moving site software
1------------January 22, 2000-------cooperation with “XX Newspaper” declared failed
1------------January 23, 2000-------download center page template determined
1------------January 24, 2000-------software moving basically completed
1------------January 26, 2000-------download center pages basically completed
1------------January 29, 2000-------homepage improved, LOGO designed
1------------January 30, 2000-------site division of labor determined
1------------January 30, 2000-------Century agreement finalized
1------------January 31, 2000-------homepage content improved, site opening time determined
1------------February 1, 2000--------Century site born!
1------------February 9, 2000--------Entertainment 2000 space server suffered a hacker attack; all data lost!
-------------February 14, 2000-------Century was successfully rebuilt on Golden Coast personal homepage space!
-------------September 8, 2000--------Century's new version launched, using ASP and database technology, taking the website to a new level.
October 17, 2000------Century's own Nanjing server opened, and provided homepage space for Chinese localization people.
October 18, 2000------the electronic publication Hanzify Semimonthly Issue 1 was officially released to the public
November 2000----------Century cooperated with Software Hanzify Union, and “Software” issued the “Millennium Hanzify Review Gift” CD magazine
March 2001-----------Shangdu space opened, 6G, mainly providing Chinese localization software downloads
May 2001-----------cooperation with “Shareware” fell through
June 2001-----------Sky station opened, 4G, mainly providing Chinese localization software downloads
August 4, 2001--------received support from Great Wall Broadband, adding 10G of server space
September 2001-----------received strong support from Liaoxi Business Network of Jinzhou, Liaoning, which provided 20G of space
September 26, 2001-------Hanzify New Century's main Shantou server shut down
September 27, 2001-------built a virtual host in Jinzhou, officially enabled the latest international domain name: www.hanzify.org
October 22, 2001------Jinzhou server returned to normal after being hacked
October 29, 2001------the Jinzhou network administrator freely provided paid 51 CGI space for our Chinese localization forum
November 1, 2001-------with the help of the Jinzhou network administrator, the homepage was beautified
November 22, 2001------Sky server space increased by 2G, totaling 6G
February 12, 2002-------cleaned up the database on the Sky station.
February 15, 2002-------Shangdu space closed
March 31, 2002-------Jinzhou space discontinued, Dongdong's 200M paid space enabled
April 10, 2002-April 17, 2002---Taiwan's Huang Guoshu visited the mainland; met with 吕达嵘 in Changzhou on April 14

I am a unificationist; unification is still better. Follow WQXNET's model. As for things like input methods, Wenquxing, and the like, set up “personal topics” within the Union. This is my suggestion. Everyone vote on it......

Setting up “personal topics” is also not bad; they would become personal small websites within the large Union website.