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Original Poster Posted 2003-02-19 00:00 ·  中国 广东 广州 天河区 电信
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In an internet café, for making a whole - disk clone of multiple machines, one has to remove the hard drives. I have been looking for a way to make a whole - disk clone without removing the drives.

I searched a lot of information on Google, and many mentioned methods for cloning without removing drives, but few were about whole - disk cloning.

Later, I downloaded ghost6.0 from http://www.enanshan.com/down/ghost6.zip and it worked, but there were many limitations. (This version has multicast cloning, netbios cloning and multiple tools, and it installs in 5M.)

My process of use is as follows:
I connected two machines into a win98 peer - to - peer network through a hub. Both have ipx/spx and tcp/ip protocols, and use 8139 network cards. For the experiment, both machines connected another small hard drive, and let the two small hard drives make a whole - disk clone in Windows98. Both machines installed ghost60 and then ran ghost. One selected netbios\master, and the other selected netbios\salve. The small hard drive of the master could be whole - disk cloned to the small hard drive of the salve, and it completed normally and then exited ghost back to Windows. (If it was not normal, the two machines must be restarted before using ghost again.)

But when I repeated the above operation, this time I put all the running files of ghost on the small hard drive, and the cloning could not succeed.
Is it because I ran ghost from the hard drive being cloned and then wrote back to its own hard drive?

Is there a detailed explanation and setting for whole - disk cloning without removing drives using the ipx protocol or other protocols in pure DOS?

It is said that Sanming's nc2002.exe can do it and it is very simple, but I don't know how to load the ipx protocol of the 8139 network card in DOS.

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GHOST 6 and GHOST 2001 seem to have their own tools for making DOS boot disks with network cards, but the PACKED ones included don't have the 8139.

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I made a floppy disk with drivers for 8029 and 8139 networks, IPX/SPX drivers, and Sanming's NETCOPY. You can boot from the floppy disk and then use N for copying. You can copy a single partition or the entire disk. However, there are currently a few issues: 1. When testing in the school computer lab, there are several machines that always fail to complete correctly. 2. NETCOPY is very prone to garbled characters, but it doesn't affect use.
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There is a problem with the NETCOPY program. It's not an issue with CuteMouse, but a problem with itself.
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Agree with Wengier's opinion. NETCOPY can only be used normally after being compressed and decompressed with ZIP. If compressed with other software and then decompressed, it will definitely have screen corruption. It's very delicate.
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This problem can be solved using the "multicast" function of Ghost 6.0. I have implemented it.
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Multicasting with GHOST

The company where the author in Nanshan is located often sets up some peer-to-peer networks for some internet cafes, school computer labs, computer training classes, etc., with as few as a few units and as many as dozens. The initial method was to first install a "prototype" machine, then use Ghost to back up the.gho file, then copy this file to each other "empty machine", and then restore one by one, which was very inefficient! Later, the multicast function of Ghost was used, which turned these originally completely manual tasks into "semi-automatic", and greatly freed from the tedious work! It feels good!

The so-called multicast function of Ghost by Nanshan actually automatically restores the.gho in your "prototype" machine to all your workstations. Especially when the configurations of each workstation are the same, it can greatly reduce the workload of the network organizer. The following will lead you step by step to implement it.

Nanshan Note: The network cards of the workstation side are all taken as RTL8139 as an example! The network card of the server side can be arbitrary.

I. Installing Ghost 6.0

Nanshan 1. Preparations

Nanshan (1) Select any computer as the "multicast server", install the required operating system (such as Win98) and application software, and make corresponding settings.

Nanshan (2) Software download (trial version)

Nanshan http://www.enanshan.com/down/ghost6.zip (4,812K)

Nanshan 2. Software installation

Nanshan On the "multicast server", open the compressed file ghost6.zip, then double-click setup.exe in it to start the installation work. During the installation process, except that in a certain step, you need to enter installation information such as Name (user name, can be any content), Company (company name, can be any content) and License Quantity (number of licenses, can be any number) according to the prompt, and the other options are all default options; there is no need to restart the computer after the end. (Figure 1)



After the installation is completed, the system files of Ghost 6.0 will be placed in the C:\Program Files\Norton Ghost 6.0 directory; you can also see its related components in "Start→Programs→Norton Ghost".

II. Preparation for Ghost multicasting

Nanshan 1. Obtaining the.gho file

Nanshan On the "multicast server", select the Norton Ghost item in the installed components, and then enter the main program of Ghost 6.0. Then select "Local→Partition→To Image" in its menu in turn to back up its C drive.

Nanshan Tip: If the hard disk capacities of all "multicast workstations" are the same, the method of selecting full disk copy by "Local→Disk→To Image" may be better!

Nanshan 2. Making the boot floppy for the workstation side

Nanshan Prepare a formatted floppy disk (either under DOS 6.22 or Win98), copy Ghost.exe and the network card configuration file Rtspkt.exe of RTL8139 in the installed directory to the floppy disk, then enter the MS-DOS mode, and go to the A drive to perform the following operations:

Nanshan (1) Establish a text file with the extension.cfg for each "multicast workstation" (such as 1.cfg, 2.cfg, 3.cfg, etc.), and its content includes three lines: ip=192.168.0.100, netmask=255.255.255.0 and gateway=192.168.0.1.

Nanshan Note: It is necessary to ensure that the last segment of the ip part of each.cfg file is different; and the other parts are all the same!

Nanshan (2) Then establish a batch file with the extension.bat (such as gg.bat), and its content includes three lines: rtspkt 0x60, set ghostip=%1.cfg and ghost. (Figure 2)



Of course: You can not use a floppy disk, but copy it to the hard disk.

III. Multicasting with Ghost

Nanshan 1. Starting the multicast server

Nanshan In the related components of the "multicast server", select the Multicast Server item to start setting. From top to bottom, first enter any content (such as 555) in the Session Name (conference name) place; then enter or select the.gho file to be multicasted in the Image (.gho image file) place; then click to select the Partition (partition) item and select the partition details; finally press the Accept Client (accept client) button.

Nanshan 2. Starting the multicast workstation

Nanshan Perform the following operations on the first "multicast workstation":

Nanshan (1) Boot with the floppy disk, successfully enter DOS, then execute the command line of gg.bat 1 (1 will correspond to 1.cfg).

Nanshan (2) Wait until entering the Ghost main program, then select the Multicasting (multicast) item in the menu, then enter the Session Name (such as 555) to be joined according to the prompt, and then get the work interface waiting for the multicast conference to start. (Figure 3)



Then perform similar operations on each "multicast workstation" in turn. Except that the second one is gg.bat 2, the third one is gg.bat 3, etc., the other steps are all completed the same as the first one!

Nanshan 3. Starting the multicasting with Ghost

Nanshan If on the "multicast server" you can see that the IP addresses (ip) of all workstations are all displayed in the list, then press the Send (send) button to officially start the multicasting work! At this time, each "multicast workstation" side will simultaneously automatically start receiving the.gho file for the restoration work on this machine! (Figure 4)



IV. Frequently Asked Questions

Nanshan 1. Question: Where can I get the network card configuration file Rtspkt.exe for RTL8139?

Nanshan Answer: It can be prepared by yourself or downloaded:

Nanshan (1) This file can be found in the Rtspkt directory of the driver disk of this network card;

Nanshan (2) It can also be downloaded: http://www.enanshan.com/down/Rtspkt.com (56K)

Nanshan 2. Question: What if my workstation side is not an RTL8139 network card?

Nanshan Answer: Also find the corresponding network card configuration file in its driver disk. For example, for the NE2000 compatible series network cards, the configuration file is named ne2000PD.exe, and the command line when using it is ne2000PD 0x60 10 0x280; for the 3COM 509 PCI network card, its configuration file is named 3c5x9pd.exe, and the command line is 3c5x9pd.

Nanshan 3. Question: What do each part represent in the command line of the network card configuration file?
Nanshan Answer: For example, for the line ne2000PD 0x60 10 0x280, 0x60 is the interrupt number, 10 is the IRQ address, and 0x280 is the I/O address. Not all network cards need these three parts.

Nanshan 4. Question: What level can the multicast rate generally reach?
Nanshan Answer: It is not necessarily, it mainly relates to the network speed and the running speed of the "multicast server". When the author did the experiment, in a 10M network, with a server of C666/64M, and with 4 workstations, it can generally reach more than 40M-50M per minute.

Nanshan 5. Question: How can I get more detailed information about GHOST multicasting?
Nanshan Answer: Select Multicast Help in the installed components of GHOST to get more detailed help information (in English).

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Yes, this problem can be solved with GHOST.
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Great. Thanks.
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I made a DOS boot floppy disk that supports multiple network card drivers and also supports GUI. If you're interested, you can go to http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/network/ to see the making method. It's really very practical
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Hello!
I've really learned a lot of practical knowledge here, and I sincerely thank you.
Now a new problem has come up, please help solve it, thank you
A batch of new computers, want to make an image under DOS and quickly install WINXP. The host configuration is P42.4, 256M, 80G, integrated 8139 network card. One computer has been made and can be successfully transmitted by GHOST network, but it cannot boot. When doing it for four or five computers together, accidentally one may succeed, but the ratio is too small. Is there a way to be faster and with higher success rate?
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Hello!
I've really learned a lot of practical knowledge here, and I sincerely thank you.
Now I have a new problem, please help solve it, thank you
A batch of new computers, I want to make an image under DOS and quickly install WINXP. The host configuration is P42.4, 256M, 80G, integrated 8139 network card. I have made one computer, and it can be successfully transmitted by GHOST network, but it cannot boot. When doing it for four or five computers together, it may accidentally succeed one, but the ratio is too small. Is there a way to be faster and with higher success rate?
Looking forward to it!
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The ghost of WINXP is not done like that of win98. If you do it like that, it will definitely not succeed. You need to do it in factory mode. Find an article on the Internet on how to backup winxp. You can find it, heh heh!
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Some time ago, through exploring the DOS peer-to-peer network, I figured out how to use the IPX/XPS protocol under DOS. Because Sanming's NC2002.exe (that is, netcopy) needs to use it.

Application example: (Application environment is Win98, not tried on WinXP)
In an Internet café with 10-20 machines, using 8139 network cards, first install and optimize one machine, and complete the whole disk cloning at one time without disassembling the machine. It took 2 hours for 13G, and I remember it was about 100M per minute. Because it is whole disk cloning, so there is no need to make an image file. This is better than Ghost and is suitable for the installation of all machines in the Internet café.

Operation process:
Each machine must have boot system files, plus lsl.com, rtsodi.com, ipxodi.com, nc2002.exe
The computers have already installed the system from the computer company. Use Network Neighborhood to copy all the necessary files: lsl.com, rtsodi.com, ipxodi.com, nc2002.exe to the C: root directory of each machine.
Reinstall the Win98 system and games on one machine, and after debugging and optimizing, use it as the master machine.
Restart, hold down CTRL, select the 5th item command mode, and run lsl, rtsodi, ipxodi, nc2002 in sequence.
Select full disk cloning and as the sender according to the prompt.

Restart each workstation, hold down CTRL, select the 5th item command mode, and run lsl, rtsodi, ipxodi, nc2002 in sequence. Select full disk cloning and as the receiver according to the prompt.


After confirming, the sender will receive each sender, and finally confirm to perform data cloning.
After the cloning is completed, set the IP address and machine name for each machine.

Tried in several Internet cafés, it has a good effect for rebuilding Internet cafés.

Problem analysis:
1. If there are multiple networks, you can also clone at the same time. However, I tried that after completion, there was an empty partition added, which is an SIS900 network card, but it can be used normally.

2. If the switch is too bad, the speed is very slow, or even interrupted. I tried that after interruption, the partitions are disordered, the partitions are arranged after the letter Z, and Ghost cannot be used because the partitions exceed the limit. Many partition tools cannot repair it. Finally, use the zero fill drive function in the non-automatic mode of DM Universal Edition (run dm /m) to clear the master boot record and partition table, and then it can be used again. The zero fill function only needs to clear the previous sectors to 1%, and there is no need to go to 100%. Because the switch is not good, the hard disk should be removed and cloned with Ghost.

3. If you enter cloning with NC2002 and a certain machine terminates due to network cable and other reasons, do not stop the cloning of the entire network. Because if you stop halfway after entering cloning, the system will be damaged and cannot be started when restarted. If the network terminates, you have to partition and build the system for each machine again.

4. Do not use the net.cfg file, it can automatically configure the network card.

5. In order to reduce the network waiting time, let each receiver go to the end first, and then confirm one by one, so that the sender can reduce the waiting time as much as possible. I don't know if there is a waiting time limit for NC2002.


Driver instructions:
lsl.com: Novell network driver under DOS, generally configured in the network card driver
rtsodi.com: 8319 network card Novell network driver under DOS, generally configured in the network card driver
ipxodi.com: Novell network driver under OS, generally configured in the network card driver
nc2002.exe: Sanming's super network copy program

If the above files are not available, you can search on www.google.com. Restricting to the Chinese area can be more convenient.


In addition, I want to set up a website for novice DOS users, trying to make it detailed and easy to understand. Unfortunately, I am not familiar with website construction, lack technical experience, and have been doing it intermittently, just made a start. I hope everyone can give advice.
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Why does my computer always crash when I clone to 25% using Ghost? The network card is Dlink.
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