Exclusive Interview with Hu Weiwu, Who Created "Chips" with Mao Zedong Thought: CPU Independence Requires a Long持久战
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2015-07-24 18:14:35 Font size: A- A A+ Source: China Science Daily
Keywords: Loongson Hu Weiwu Loongson Zhongke Mao Zedong Thought Loongson CPU
Hu Weiwu, the former head of the Loongson R & D team and now the head of Loongson Zhongke. Because of Loongson, his media exposure in recent years has been much higher than before. What impresses the media most about him is "creating 'chips' with Mao Zedong Thought". In fact, Hu Weiwu admires Chairman Mao very much: he always pins a Chairman Mao badge on his chest; when the "Loongson No. 1" was born in 2002, Hu Weiwu and a group of people took a taxi to Tiananmen Square, reported the success news to Chairman Mao Memorial Hall before going back to sleep.
Hu Weiwu
The birth of Loongson CPU has realized "ending the history of using foreign CPUs to build computers". Then, to industrialize Loongson CPU and build its own ecosystem, this "father of Loongson" needs to fight a "long持久战", as he put it, "just like the Long March".
After many years, what is the current development level of Loongson CPU? What stories are behind its development? How is the "Long March" of the head Hu Weiwu going? Not long ago, the reporter of China Science Daily interviewed Hu Weiwu twice at the 2015 Shuguang Innovation Technology Conference and the 3rd China Command and Control Conference, and had a further understanding of the entrepreneurial concept and mental journey of this Loongson head.
Realizing CPU Independence Requires a Long持久战
China Science Daily: Previously, in the microprocessor field, it has always been Intel from the United States and ARM from the United Kingdom that dominate the market, and the whole world uses these two CPUs. Under what background did the R & D and industrialization of Loongson be put on the agenda?
Hu Weiwu: When our country first formulated the "863" High-tech Plan, it considered that integrated circuits were too "expensive", and independent CPUs were not included in the support. Until the "10th Five-Year Plan" period, the "863" Plan began to support the R & D of independent CPUs, began to make sample chips and improve technologies, and imported the CPU achievements of "863" into the industry according to the "Core Electronic Components, High-end General-purpose Chips and Basic Software" major special project.
At that time, it was required to combine R & D and industry, but the problem of "two separate skins" of science and technology and industry was not completely solved, and there were detours and setbacks. Since the "12th Five-Year Plan", relevant departments have carried out applications and pilots in the security application field, clarified the route of "application traction", and are experiencing the process from imitation to surpassing and from low end to high end from national defense equipment to Party and government offices and then to important industries. Under such circumstances, Loongson was produced.
China Science Daily: Our country's independent CPU started late and the upstream and downstream industrial chains are immature. Then what is the development strategy of Loongson?
Hu Weiwu: Fight a long持久战. We should clearly see that it is not easy to develop an independent and controllable information industry system, which requires long-term accumulation. Both the skepticism of doing nothing and the quick victory theory of over-optimism are wrong. We should despise it strategically and attach importance to it tactically. This is a basic principle that our country should follow when developing independent intellectual property microprocessors and the information industry.
This year, we joined the "Longan Alliance" jointly initiated by Sugon and Lenovo Digital. From the perspective of Loongson, this is a market-oriented alliance. This alliance allows us not to fight alone in the independent industrial ecosystem. We hope that through the alliance, we can realize the usability from a single product to the whole system, and also hope to build a complete ecological environment with independent brand enterprises such as Sugon, so that the application promotion of our country's overall information system can reach a new height.
"Our Mission is to Achieve Autonomy in the Free Market"
China Science Daily: Since the "Prism Gate" incident, now the information industry is full of talk about information security and independent controllability. The cause of Loongson is to make chips for Chinese people, which is also the responsibility given by national information security. What do you think of this problem?
Hu Weiwu: I think the fundamental way out of China's IT industry lies in establishing an independent system. To change the current situation that China's IT industry is subject to others, it is not enough to rely on the breakthrough of one or two core technologies or one or two products. We must establish an independent and controllable information industry system, just as our predecessors established an independent and controllable industrial system in the era of "Two Bombs and One Satellite".
An independent system is conducive to independent innovation and continuous improvement. Establishing an independent and controllable software technology system can carry out continuous improvement based on this technology system, forming a spiral rise. Otherwise, following the upgrade in others' technology system, there will never be a chance to surpass, and we will always be backward. The CPU performance of Apple iPad is at least one order of magnitude worse than that of Intel's desktop CPU, but Apple Inc. adheres to establishing an independent software and hardware system, which has led to today's situation.
China Science Daily: You have been emphasizing "application traction" and put forward that "independent CPUs should gradually move from the realm of necessity of independent software and hardware to the realm of freedom in the process of combining with applications". How should this sentence be understood?
Hu Weiwu: The mission of our generation is to achieve autonomy under market conditions. In my opinion, the development path of independent software and hardware should be divided into three steps. First, meet a single application. Now, independent software and hardware can meet a single application based on embedded OS, such as weapon equipment, industrial control, etc., and the initial high-performance computer is also a single application.
Second, meet fixed applications. At the current stage, we are carrying out adaptation and optimization work in combination with complex fixed applications such as office systems and command systems. These applications involve OS, database, middleware, browser, office software, Flash, GIS, etc. Although complex, they have boundaries. After 2-3 years of efforts, independent software and hardware can meet fixed applications related to national security and national economic security.
Finally, meet open market applications. As long as independent software takes root in the fixed application market and the market share exceeds 5%, a large number of software and applications will actively join the independent software and hardware ecosystem, forming an independent ecology in the open market.
What should our policy be based on? Self-reliance. The standard to judge whether a technology is advanced is not to see whether it is closely following the United States, but to see whether it is closely combined with applications. Independent CPUs should gradually move from the realm of necessity of independent software and hardware to the realm of freedom in the process of combining with applications.
Don't Be a "Follower" and Build Loongson Ecosystem
China Science Daily: The industrial chain of CPU is very long. There are still five or six barriers from CPU to the final consumers. So making CPU is inseparable from the ecosystem. As a relatively new microprocessor manufacturer, what efforts has Loongson made in building the industrial ecological environment?
Hu Weiwu: A statistical report at the end of last year shows that the number of engineers and technicians developing software and hardware around Loongson in the downstream of Loongson has reached more than 10,000. Although it is still relatively small, it has a certain scale. The fundamental difference between Loongson and other enterprises is that we are committed to building a new ecosystem based on the existing software and hardware foundation.
There are now two major groups in the world: Windows + Intel and ARM + Google. Chinese software and hardware enterprises are all in these two ecosystems. I mentioned earlier that the fundamental way out of China's IT industry in the future is to establish a third pole, that is, to establish our own ecosystem. If we are in the ARM camp or the Intel camp, we will always be a follower. Now Loongson has united many enterprises in China. On the other hand, Loongson has also made many contributions in the open source community. If I contribute the most source code, the software will follow me, and this ecosystem will follow me.
China Science Daily: What kind of ecosystem do you look forward to Loongson establishing in the future? When is it expected to take shape?
Hu Weiwu: It is an open application that meets the open market. For example, to play stocks, now there are Apple version and Android version of stock software, and there should be a Loongson version, which is called an open application ecosystem. We hope that the construction of this ecosystem will be after the "13th Five-Year Plan" and at the beginning of the "14th Five-Year Plan".
There is a statistic from the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology that when the market share of CPU exceeds 5%, enterprises will take the initiative to adapt. Now many enterprises adapt to Loongson because of the market. We have also seen a good trend. In the early "11th Five-Year Plan" and "12th Five-Year Plan" periods, the customers of Loongson were mainly "institutional" enterprises. Now there are many "non-institutional" enterprises, such as Advantech Industrial Control - its status in the world's industrial control field is a bit like Lenovo's status in the PC field. There is no national project for it to make Loongson (industrial control boards, etc.), but they have invested in making many Loongson products by themselves. Why? It is also facing many markets. I think after the efforts of the "13th Five-Year Plan", around 2020, after establishing a foothold in the complex fixed application market, we can attract the free market. This is our current plan.
"Now I Like Dealing with Customers"
China Science Daily: You mentioned in the keynote speech that Loongson has now achieved breakeven. We have also paid attention to that in the end of March this year, China launched the first Beidou satellite using "Loongson", not to mention that Loongson has strategic partners such as Sugon and there are special server products using Loongson processors. Can you briefly introduce the current development stage of Loongson Zhongke?
Hu Weiwu: It can be said that after years of efforts, Loongson Zhongke Company is entering a high-growth period from the startup period and is on a sustainable development road. The sales revenue of Loongson CPU has grown rapidly in recent years and reached breakeven in 2015. I just mentioned a number that the number of software and hardware R & D personnel based on Loongson CPU has reached more than 10,000. After especially three years of efforts, Loongson Zhongke Company has basically completed the "make up lessons" in processor design and software ecosystem and has entered a new stage of independent development.
China Science Daily: Our country advocates "giving a helping hand and seeing someone off" to national independent innovation industries. Loongson should be a typical representative of "giving a helping hand and seeing someone off". From "giving a helping hand" and "seeing someone off" to running a business and breaking into the market, what profound experiences do you have?
Hu Weiwu: "Giving a helping hand" is the support for R & D, because high-tech industries need technological accumulation; "seeing someone off" is to send to the market. The development of our CPU, from the initial support of the "863" project to the transfer of "Core Electronic Components, High-end General-purpose Chips and Basic Software", can be said to have completed the technical indicators but not the industrialization indicators. Then the government began to shift the focus of support to "use", which is the support for the initial marketization.
But the road has to be walked by oneself, and one cannot always rely on seeing someone off. The government sees someone off for a while, not for life. Enterprises should grow abilities in this process, including technical ability, market ability and management ability.
Later, when we started to run a business, the most profound experience was that at the beginning, we felt that customers were too difficult to deal with - for an enterprise like Loongson, it was no problem to apply for a national project of tens of millions of yuan, but it was very difficult to get 50,000 or 100,000 yuan from customers; since 2014, this feeling has changed. As long as we do a good job in products, customers really pay you money without any二话, and sometimes we even feel it is a seller's market. So later the mentality changed, and now I like dealing with customers.
Related Reading:
Chief Designer of Loongson Hu Weiwu: Persist in R & D with Mao Zedong Thought (Excerpt)
Reporter Qi Jielun
Reporter: I saw the half-body statue of Chairman Mao in the middle of the wall in the conference room. Do you admire Chairman Mao?
Hu Weiwu: I am a fan of Chairman Mao. You can see my Chairman Mao badge (Hu Weiwu pointed to the badge pinned on his T-shirt and said).
Reporter: Is it for publicity or do you really admire Chairman Mao from the bottom of your heart? Hu Weiwu: I once wrote an article on the Internet about Mao Zedong Thought. I said that if the Loongson R & D team did not adhere to this point, we would not be able to establish ourselves. Only by adhering to this road will we win. We will not do things for hype.
To study Mao Zedong Thought, we mainly learn three aspects: First, learn his spirit. You see Chairman Mao, he encountered countless difficulties in his life, but he was never intimidated by difficulties and overcame all difficulties. He encountered countless enemies, was never intimidated by enemies, but intimidated all enemies. This point is not only recognized by his comrades, but also by his opponents. This requires a spirit. Why have the Chinese people been humiliated for more than 100 years? When the Eight-Nation Alliance invaded Beijing, there were only 188,811 people, but they actually burned the Old Summer Palace. Why could the illiterate farmers organized by the Communist Party and organized by Chairman Mao defeat the U.S. military? This requires a spirit. So, I once read an article on the Internet that said, we are not afraid of the modernization of the Chinese army, we are afraid of the Mao Zedong-ization of the Chinese army, which was said by the Americans.
Mao Zedong-ization is revolutionization, which is invincible. This spirit is not an invention of Chairman Mao. It is the spirit of self-improvement of the Chinese nation for thousands of years, especially since the Han and Tang dynasties. It's just that, like a piece of gold, it was covered with a layer of dirt on the surface and stopped shining. Chairman Mao and his comrades wiped it off, polished it, and made it shine again. How many difficulties does Loongson have? There are all kinds of difficulties. Without this spirit, it cannot be overcome. Often someone asks me, how many people do you have? How much R & D funds do foreign countries have? How good is their R & D team? How can you compete?
I said, a single spark can start a prairie fire. What determines the success or failure of a thing is not whether it is already strong now. According to that theory, the Communist Party would have been wiped out by the Kuomintang long ago, and would have been destroyed in one encirclement and suppression. Whether it conforms to the law of historical development and whether it is supported by the broad masses of the people is very important. The Chinese people cannot complete China's informatization under the condition that Western countries obtain huge profits. This is determined by our national conditions. We need to find things that the people support, so we need to learn his spirit.
Second, learn the method. Chairman Mao always grasped the main contradiction in everything he did. He was the most good at learning from practice. He was a military genius. He didn't read many military works. He learned from practice. We also need that. He led the people of the whole country to complete the national primitive accumulation. You can compare with India. At the beginning of the founding of the country, China's steel ownership was not enough for every woman in the country to wear a hairpin.
The most important thing is to learn Chairman Mao's position. He always stood on the side of workers and peasants, on the side of the people. So I often say that the fundamental way out of Loongson is that informatization serves the people, truly allowing 50%-60% of the Chinese people to enjoy the benefits brought by informatization, not for seeking benefits. This is the fundamental way for us to win and our core values. It is not okay not to learn this. Our team is extremely stable, and the most excellent students have stayed to serve Loongson, which is extremely rare in China's scientific research team. The core members of ours have no intention of leaving even with several times the treatment of foreign enterprises. Reporter: I heard that you sleep in the office every day?
Hu Weiwu: Chairman Mao has already said that we must always maintain a modest and prudent style. You see our country, why is it a big country? Why do people recognize us as a big country? Some people say that the Chinese nation never lacks traitors, and there is another saying that the Chinese nation never lacks backbone. You see at the beginning of the last century, Sun Yat-sen was the backbone, in the 1940s and 1950s, Chairman Mao was the backbone, in the 1950s, the volunteers were the backbone, in the 1960s and 1970s, the people who made the two bombs and one satellite were the backbone. And now, reform and opening up need a group of new backbones, and scientific researchers should assume their responsibilities. It doesn't matter if they are tired. They should have struggled hard. Others are more advanced than you. If you work eight hours a day like them, and you are not much smarter than them, and you have worse conditions than them, why should you be better than them? Why should you be able to catch up? It's still about Chairman Mao's spirit. I also wrote in an article before that in 2001-2005, five Spring Festivals, five National Days, five May Days, we only took two Spring Festival breaks, and that's how we came here.
Reporter: Do you think this is the meaning of your life?
Hu Weiwu: My tutor Academician Xia Peisu and Teacher Li (Li Guojie - Reporter's note) are all my examples. Really, only when a person combines his own future and destiny with the future and destiny of the country and the nation can his future be the most brilliant and his interests be the greatest. When I just graduated, my classmates were all in foreign enterprises and abroad, and they got a lot of money. At that time, my tutor always educated me to do things for the country. Now, on the contrary, they are very envious of me, envious of me having such conditions to contribute to the country. In fact, in a sense, I am very lucky. I met very good teachers, very good leaders, and I can have such an opportunity to connect my own future and destiny with the future and destiny of the country to some extent. For a scientific researcher and an intellectual, this is his greatest way out.
Isn't there an idiom? The way is one foot high, and the devil is one zhang high. In the past, for those who practiced Taoism, the Taoism increased by one foot, and the demon heart increased by one zhang. The same is true for doing学问. When your level increases by one foot, your desires, including fame, profit, being an official, making money, will increase tenfold. Then you have to overcome these things. A while ago, an expert said to me, Xiao Hu, in the past, people praised me for being capable, but now people praise me for being able to drink. You must never become like me. This sentence is a warning to me. I hope I will always be a company commander, always giving the order "Follow me", not "Go ahead", and I hope to be such a scientific researcher. If you accept more media interviews and take on more responsibilities in society, you will give people the impression that, alas, this person is a "hustler". I don't want to give people such an impression, and I also hope your media won't be too off the mark.
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2015-07-24 18:14:35 Font size: A- A A+ Source: China Science Daily
Keywords: Loongson Hu Weiwu Loongson Zhongke Mao Zedong Thought Loongson CPU
Hu Weiwu, the former head of the Loongson R & D team and now the head of Loongson Zhongke. Because of Loongson, his media exposure in recent years has been much higher than before. What impresses the media most about him is "creating 'chips' with Mao Zedong Thought". In fact, Hu Weiwu admires Chairman Mao very much: he always pins a Chairman Mao badge on his chest; when the "Loongson No. 1" was born in 2002, Hu Weiwu and a group of people took a taxi to Tiananmen Square, reported the success news to Chairman Mao Memorial Hall before going back to sleep.
Hu Weiwu
The birth of Loongson CPU has realized "ending the history of using foreign CPUs to build computers". Then, to industrialize Loongson CPU and build its own ecosystem, this "father of Loongson" needs to fight a "long持久战", as he put it, "just like the Long March".
After many years, what is the current development level of Loongson CPU? What stories are behind its development? How is the "Long March" of the head Hu Weiwu going? Not long ago, the reporter of China Science Daily interviewed Hu Weiwu twice at the 2015 Shuguang Innovation Technology Conference and the 3rd China Command and Control Conference, and had a further understanding of the entrepreneurial concept and mental journey of this Loongson head.
Realizing CPU Independence Requires a Long持久战
China Science Daily: Previously, in the microprocessor field, it has always been Intel from the United States and ARM from the United Kingdom that dominate the market, and the whole world uses these two CPUs. Under what background did the R & D and industrialization of Loongson be put on the agenda?
Hu Weiwu: When our country first formulated the "863" High-tech Plan, it considered that integrated circuits were too "expensive", and independent CPUs were not included in the support. Until the "10th Five-Year Plan" period, the "863" Plan began to support the R & D of independent CPUs, began to make sample chips and improve technologies, and imported the CPU achievements of "863" into the industry according to the "Core Electronic Components, High-end General-purpose Chips and Basic Software" major special project.
At that time, it was required to combine R & D and industry, but the problem of "two separate skins" of science and technology and industry was not completely solved, and there were detours and setbacks. Since the "12th Five-Year Plan", relevant departments have carried out applications and pilots in the security application field, clarified the route of "application traction", and are experiencing the process from imitation to surpassing and from low end to high end from national defense equipment to Party and government offices and then to important industries. Under such circumstances, Loongson was produced.
China Science Daily: Our country's independent CPU started late and the upstream and downstream industrial chains are immature. Then what is the development strategy of Loongson?
Hu Weiwu: Fight a long持久战. We should clearly see that it is not easy to develop an independent and controllable information industry system, which requires long-term accumulation. Both the skepticism of doing nothing and the quick victory theory of over-optimism are wrong. We should despise it strategically and attach importance to it tactically. This is a basic principle that our country should follow when developing independent intellectual property microprocessors and the information industry.
This year, we joined the "Longan Alliance" jointly initiated by Sugon and Lenovo Digital. From the perspective of Loongson, this is a market-oriented alliance. This alliance allows us not to fight alone in the independent industrial ecosystem. We hope that through the alliance, we can realize the usability from a single product to the whole system, and also hope to build a complete ecological environment with independent brand enterprises such as Sugon, so that the application promotion of our country's overall information system can reach a new height.
"Our Mission is to Achieve Autonomy in the Free Market"
China Science Daily: Since the "Prism Gate" incident, now the information industry is full of talk about information security and independent controllability. The cause of Loongson is to make chips for Chinese people, which is also the responsibility given by national information security. What do you think of this problem?
Hu Weiwu: I think the fundamental way out of China's IT industry lies in establishing an independent system. To change the current situation that China's IT industry is subject to others, it is not enough to rely on the breakthrough of one or two core technologies or one or two products. We must establish an independent and controllable information industry system, just as our predecessors established an independent and controllable industrial system in the era of "Two Bombs and One Satellite".
An independent system is conducive to independent innovation and continuous improvement. Establishing an independent and controllable software technology system can carry out continuous improvement based on this technology system, forming a spiral rise. Otherwise, following the upgrade in others' technology system, there will never be a chance to surpass, and we will always be backward. The CPU performance of Apple iPad is at least one order of magnitude worse than that of Intel's desktop CPU, but Apple Inc. adheres to establishing an independent software and hardware system, which has led to today's situation.
China Science Daily: You have been emphasizing "application traction" and put forward that "independent CPUs should gradually move from the realm of necessity of independent software and hardware to the realm of freedom in the process of combining with applications". How should this sentence be understood?
Hu Weiwu: The mission of our generation is to achieve autonomy under market conditions. In my opinion, the development path of independent software and hardware should be divided into three steps. First, meet a single application. Now, independent software and hardware can meet a single application based on embedded OS, such as weapon equipment, industrial control, etc., and the initial high-performance computer is also a single application.
Second, meet fixed applications. At the current stage, we are carrying out adaptation and optimization work in combination with complex fixed applications such as office systems and command systems. These applications involve OS, database, middleware, browser, office software, Flash, GIS, etc. Although complex, they have boundaries. After 2-3 years of efforts, independent software and hardware can meet fixed applications related to national security and national economic security.
Finally, meet open market applications. As long as independent software takes root in the fixed application market and the market share exceeds 5%, a large number of software and applications will actively join the independent software and hardware ecosystem, forming an independent ecology in the open market.
What should our policy be based on? Self-reliance. The standard to judge whether a technology is advanced is not to see whether it is closely following the United States, but to see whether it is closely combined with applications. Independent CPUs should gradually move from the realm of necessity of independent software and hardware to the realm of freedom in the process of combining with applications.
Don't Be a "Follower" and Build Loongson Ecosystem
China Science Daily: The industrial chain of CPU is very long. There are still five or six barriers from CPU to the final consumers. So making CPU is inseparable from the ecosystem. As a relatively new microprocessor manufacturer, what efforts has Loongson made in building the industrial ecological environment?
Hu Weiwu: A statistical report at the end of last year shows that the number of engineers and technicians developing software and hardware around Loongson in the downstream of Loongson has reached more than 10,000. Although it is still relatively small, it has a certain scale. The fundamental difference between Loongson and other enterprises is that we are committed to building a new ecosystem based on the existing software and hardware foundation.
There are now two major groups in the world: Windows + Intel and ARM + Google. Chinese software and hardware enterprises are all in these two ecosystems. I mentioned earlier that the fundamental way out of China's IT industry in the future is to establish a third pole, that is, to establish our own ecosystem. If we are in the ARM camp or the Intel camp, we will always be a follower. Now Loongson has united many enterprises in China. On the other hand, Loongson has also made many contributions in the open source community. If I contribute the most source code, the software will follow me, and this ecosystem will follow me.
China Science Daily: What kind of ecosystem do you look forward to Loongson establishing in the future? When is it expected to take shape?
Hu Weiwu: It is an open application that meets the open market. For example, to play stocks, now there are Apple version and Android version of stock software, and there should be a Loongson version, which is called an open application ecosystem. We hope that the construction of this ecosystem will be after the "13th Five-Year Plan" and at the beginning of the "14th Five-Year Plan".
There is a statistic from the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology that when the market share of CPU exceeds 5%, enterprises will take the initiative to adapt. Now many enterprises adapt to Loongson because of the market. We have also seen a good trend. In the early "11th Five-Year Plan" and "12th Five-Year Plan" periods, the customers of Loongson were mainly "institutional" enterprises. Now there are many "non-institutional" enterprises, such as Advantech Industrial Control - its status in the world's industrial control field is a bit like Lenovo's status in the PC field. There is no national project for it to make Loongson (industrial control boards, etc.), but they have invested in making many Loongson products by themselves. Why? It is also facing many markets. I think after the efforts of the "13th Five-Year Plan", around 2020, after establishing a foothold in the complex fixed application market, we can attract the free market. This is our current plan.
"Now I Like Dealing with Customers"
China Science Daily: You mentioned in the keynote speech that Loongson has now achieved breakeven. We have also paid attention to that in the end of March this year, China launched the first Beidou satellite using "Loongson", not to mention that Loongson has strategic partners such as Sugon and there are special server products using Loongson processors. Can you briefly introduce the current development stage of Loongson Zhongke?
Hu Weiwu: It can be said that after years of efforts, Loongson Zhongke Company is entering a high-growth period from the startup period and is on a sustainable development road. The sales revenue of Loongson CPU has grown rapidly in recent years and reached breakeven in 2015. I just mentioned a number that the number of software and hardware R & D personnel based on Loongson CPU has reached more than 10,000. After especially three years of efforts, Loongson Zhongke Company has basically completed the "make up lessons" in processor design and software ecosystem and has entered a new stage of independent development.
China Science Daily: Our country advocates "giving a helping hand and seeing someone off" to national independent innovation industries. Loongson should be a typical representative of "giving a helping hand and seeing someone off". From "giving a helping hand" and "seeing someone off" to running a business and breaking into the market, what profound experiences do you have?
Hu Weiwu: "Giving a helping hand" is the support for R & D, because high-tech industries need technological accumulation; "seeing someone off" is to send to the market. The development of our CPU, from the initial support of the "863" project to the transfer of "Core Electronic Components, High-end General-purpose Chips and Basic Software", can be said to have completed the technical indicators but not the industrialization indicators. Then the government began to shift the focus of support to "use", which is the support for the initial marketization.
But the road has to be walked by oneself, and one cannot always rely on seeing someone off. The government sees someone off for a while, not for life. Enterprises should grow abilities in this process, including technical ability, market ability and management ability.
Later, when we started to run a business, the most profound experience was that at the beginning, we felt that customers were too difficult to deal with - for an enterprise like Loongson, it was no problem to apply for a national project of tens of millions of yuan, but it was very difficult to get 50,000 or 100,000 yuan from customers; since 2014, this feeling has changed. As long as we do a good job in products, customers really pay you money without any二话, and sometimes we even feel it is a seller's market. So later the mentality changed, and now I like dealing with customers.
Related Reading:
Chief Designer of Loongson Hu Weiwu: Persist in R & D with Mao Zedong Thought (Excerpt)
Reporter Qi Jielun
Reporter: I saw the half-body statue of Chairman Mao in the middle of the wall in the conference room. Do you admire Chairman Mao?
Hu Weiwu: I am a fan of Chairman Mao. You can see my Chairman Mao badge (Hu Weiwu pointed to the badge pinned on his T-shirt and said).
Reporter: Is it for publicity or do you really admire Chairman Mao from the bottom of your heart? Hu Weiwu: I once wrote an article on the Internet about Mao Zedong Thought. I said that if the Loongson R & D team did not adhere to this point, we would not be able to establish ourselves. Only by adhering to this road will we win. We will not do things for hype.
To study Mao Zedong Thought, we mainly learn three aspects: First, learn his spirit. You see Chairman Mao, he encountered countless difficulties in his life, but he was never intimidated by difficulties and overcame all difficulties. He encountered countless enemies, was never intimidated by enemies, but intimidated all enemies. This point is not only recognized by his comrades, but also by his opponents. This requires a spirit. Why have the Chinese people been humiliated for more than 100 years? When the Eight-Nation Alliance invaded Beijing, there were only 188,811 people, but they actually burned the Old Summer Palace. Why could the illiterate farmers organized by the Communist Party and organized by Chairman Mao defeat the U.S. military? This requires a spirit. So, I once read an article on the Internet that said, we are not afraid of the modernization of the Chinese army, we are afraid of the Mao Zedong-ization of the Chinese army, which was said by the Americans.
Mao Zedong-ization is revolutionization, which is invincible. This spirit is not an invention of Chairman Mao. It is the spirit of self-improvement of the Chinese nation for thousands of years, especially since the Han and Tang dynasties. It's just that, like a piece of gold, it was covered with a layer of dirt on the surface and stopped shining. Chairman Mao and his comrades wiped it off, polished it, and made it shine again. How many difficulties does Loongson have? There are all kinds of difficulties. Without this spirit, it cannot be overcome. Often someone asks me, how many people do you have? How much R & D funds do foreign countries have? How good is their R & D team? How can you compete?
I said, a single spark can start a prairie fire. What determines the success or failure of a thing is not whether it is already strong now. According to that theory, the Communist Party would have been wiped out by the Kuomintang long ago, and would have been destroyed in one encirclement and suppression. Whether it conforms to the law of historical development and whether it is supported by the broad masses of the people is very important. The Chinese people cannot complete China's informatization under the condition that Western countries obtain huge profits. This is determined by our national conditions. We need to find things that the people support, so we need to learn his spirit.
Second, learn the method. Chairman Mao always grasped the main contradiction in everything he did. He was the most good at learning from practice. He was a military genius. He didn't read many military works. He learned from practice. We also need that. He led the people of the whole country to complete the national primitive accumulation. You can compare with India. At the beginning of the founding of the country, China's steel ownership was not enough for every woman in the country to wear a hairpin.
The most important thing is to learn Chairman Mao's position. He always stood on the side of workers and peasants, on the side of the people. So I often say that the fundamental way out of Loongson is that informatization serves the people, truly allowing 50%-60% of the Chinese people to enjoy the benefits brought by informatization, not for seeking benefits. This is the fundamental way for us to win and our core values. It is not okay not to learn this. Our team is extremely stable, and the most excellent students have stayed to serve Loongson, which is extremely rare in China's scientific research team. The core members of ours have no intention of leaving even with several times the treatment of foreign enterprises. Reporter: I heard that you sleep in the office every day?
Hu Weiwu: Chairman Mao has already said that we must always maintain a modest and prudent style. You see our country, why is it a big country? Why do people recognize us as a big country? Some people say that the Chinese nation never lacks traitors, and there is another saying that the Chinese nation never lacks backbone. You see at the beginning of the last century, Sun Yat-sen was the backbone, in the 1940s and 1950s, Chairman Mao was the backbone, in the 1950s, the volunteers were the backbone, in the 1960s and 1970s, the people who made the two bombs and one satellite were the backbone. And now, reform and opening up need a group of new backbones, and scientific researchers should assume their responsibilities. It doesn't matter if they are tired. They should have struggled hard. Others are more advanced than you. If you work eight hours a day like them, and you are not much smarter than them, and you have worse conditions than them, why should you be better than them? Why should you be able to catch up? It's still about Chairman Mao's spirit. I also wrote in an article before that in 2001-2005, five Spring Festivals, five National Days, five May Days, we only took two Spring Festival breaks, and that's how we came here.
Reporter: Do you think this is the meaning of your life?
Hu Weiwu: My tutor Academician Xia Peisu and Teacher Li (Li Guojie - Reporter's note) are all my examples. Really, only when a person combines his own future and destiny with the future and destiny of the country and the nation can his future be the most brilliant and his interests be the greatest. When I just graduated, my classmates were all in foreign enterprises and abroad, and they got a lot of money. At that time, my tutor always educated me to do things for the country. Now, on the contrary, they are very envious of me, envious of me having such conditions to contribute to the country. In fact, in a sense, I am very lucky. I met very good teachers, very good leaders, and I can have such an opportunity to connect my own future and destiny with the future and destiny of the country to some extent. For a scientific researcher and an intellectual, this is his greatest way out.
Isn't there an idiom? The way is one foot high, and the devil is one zhang high. In the past, for those who practiced Taoism, the Taoism increased by one foot, and the demon heart increased by one zhang. The same is true for doing学问. When your level increases by one foot, your desires, including fame, profit, being an official, making money, will increase tenfold. Then you have to overcome these things. A while ago, an expert said to me, Xiao Hu, in the past, people praised me for being capable, but now people praise me for being able to drink. You must never become like me. This sentence is a warning to me. I hope I will always be a company commander, always giving the order "Follow me", not "Go ahead", and I hope to be such a scientific researcher. If you accept more media interviews and take on more responsibilities in society, you will give people the impression that, alas, this person is a "hustler". I don't want to give people such an impression, and I also hope your media won't be too off the mark.
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