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Floor 16 Posted 2003-12-29 00:00 ·  中国 重庆 电信
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Suggest the building owner to change the title... It's too glaring!
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Wow! Respect! Not a navy, but turned out to be an air force! Also applied advanced stealth technology.

I'm asking about your current CPU model, don't talk about already having it. In other words, you are still using a foreign product like me, right? First of all, patriotism is not being narrow-minded. The fall of the Qing Dynasty has confirmed this. The strength of Chinese technology still needs a process of introduction, digestion and absorption. For what we don't have and are backward in, we need to learn, take it for reference and reference. It's not shameful. Please forgive me for my ignorance. Is the "self-developed CPU" in our country now something you participated in designing and manufacturing? I have used Wengier-modified DOS 71 that spans multiple platforms, and also used CCDOS named "ChangCheng Chinese characters", and, Wengier and his followers established the "China DOS Union" to silently help many beginners and spread computer knowledge. Why after searching through modern history, I can't find "China completely independent operating system 888DOS" and haven't seen the 888DOS forum that holds the banner of "China completely independent operating system". Who is bashing others to boost oneself, who is bragging and showing off so-called technology.
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Wow, suddenly how did this get related to politics, patriotism and such things. I emphasize it's from a security perspective, you don't take words out of context.
Floor 19 Posted 2003-12-29 00:00 ·  中国 广东 湛江 赤坎区 电信
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Hope all DOS veterans come to discuss together, just focusing on the matter itself
Floor 20 Posted 2003-12-29 00:00 ·  中国 北京 海淀区 教育网
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Just to be matter-of-fact, they are completely two different things. You insist on lumping them together. It's all what you said, without involving DOS and security issues. What connection do you say there is?
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dos888 Since you have a very bad memory, should I quote your original text sentence by sentence:

『Message to Wengier and His Followers
Wengier and your followers:
Hello!
I admire you all extremely for your excellent abilities in DOS. But to be honest, your abilities in this regard are only limited to modifying others' things or piecing things together. All are imported products, all are not original and authentic self-developed products. It seems that you are abroad now, so for you, it is even easier to use imported products.』

My knowledge is shallow. Can I understand that you are very modest, using all complete original and authentic self-developed products, never modifying others' things or piecing things together, so you come to give instructions to Wengier and his followers by the way. As for me, I not only piece things together, but also most of the software is pirated. I heard that dos71 is free, so I am in cahoots with them. After listening to your lecture, I am even more terrified.

『China lacks completely self-developed operating systems, and there are huge security loopholes. I suggest that Wengier and his followers should expand it like unix instead of relying on others' programs to complete the so-called multi-functional maintenance CD, which is of very narrow significance.』

You are far-sighted and concerned about the country and the people. Indeed, all the people in the China DOS Union are near-sighted, short-sighted. Even Wengier makes a living by dos71, and his followers can only piece together some multi-functional maintenance CDs to deceive people.

『If my words hurt the above friends, please forgive me. I am just telling the truth because I see so many people still indulged in this kind of seemingly very meaningful DOS maintenance CD.』

Things that have been pulled out, why sit back? Please rest assured, Wengier and his followers all respect you, no fine, do as you like!!!

『Maintenance CDs are for experts, do you need so many functions? I think you rarely use them yourself, just to expand the CD.
All the software you use are all foreign software, such as that PE Builder, ERD Commander and other software. I think this is related to Wengier having stayed abroad. Foreign information in this regard is richer than ours.
Wengier and his followers, if you are really experts, please think about how to develop your own operating system. If not, don't show off the so-called technology boastfully. Although the DOS era has not completely disappeared, operating systems should also keep up with the times. Don't always stay in place and reminisce.』


Except for those that Microsoft brings by itself, I, a low-level person, can't understand them. We all want to try to modify what we can get. So easy to piece things together. Who let your complete original and authentic self-developed product 888DOS not be willing to let us see. If I don't show off the so-called technology to deceive more noobs, can the forum have so many people? Of course, it can't deceive you. Keeping up with the times also needs you to lead. I raise my feet to agree. Can you give me the recipe of the dog skin plaster first? They bully me again, not giving me points, I will scare them to death! And also cure these people's near-sightedness.

『Once I also thought DOS was invincible, but later it was replaced by window operating systems. Now the survival of DOS is just a process. Once more advanced technology matures and is applied, then DOS will really become an antique.
Once I worked desperately to write drivers for a certain model of printer under DOS, but later in the window era, everything was so simple.
Once I wrote so many codes to achieve simple colors for a graphic code under DOS and was excited, but in the window era, I found it was so easy.
The hardships under DOS are still vivid in my mind. I want to say DOS: It's not easy to love you!
Hope all friends who read the post can express their opinions, express their own views, and cite extensive evidence.
Thank you!!!』

Excited!!! Excited!!! You can both draw pictures and write drivers, you are simply a perfect person, much better than my master Ah Q! I really envy you for writing graphic codes under DOS. I even don't dare to think about it. I kneel and beg you to make a logo and banner for the China DOS Union. Wengier and his followers are worrying about this. My DOS driver for the TDC3660 tape drive has been kneeling in front of Driver Heaven for more than a month, and they ignore me. You once worked desperately to write drivers for a certain model of printer under DOS. Can you take time to write one for me? Just write it under window! I heard it was so easy originally. It's just a piece of cake for you. I will pay my respects to you in the forum again on January 3, 2004, thanking you for your great kindness.
By the way, next time you come, don't practice the stunt of logging in incognito. I can't learn it. Maybe you don't get used to Windows, an imported product. I often climb over walls and am familiar with the terrain. I will tell you a few shortcuts. 1 There is a re-login at the mouth of the forum. I can't see you when entering again through that door. 2 Delete cookies in IE, then you are a guest, and a few moderators will serve you tea, and I can't see you. 3 Change your nickname (nickname refers to your name dos888, not your shell). Then I won't recognize you. Practicing incognito login consumes magic value. If you accidentally knock down flowers and plants, it's not good either! Besides, you cover your face, and I feel embarrassed if I don't pay my respects to you. Also, your non-standard Chinese characters are hard for me to read. Full-pinyin input kills people.
『Hope all DOS seniors come to discuss together, just focusing on the matter.』

No way, Wengier and his followers are all busy piecing things together. I guess those with stars are too busy to entertain you. Only me left to watch the stall. I have to volunteer to chat with you. This time it's just focusing on the matter, not taking passages out of context—right?
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Excuse me, DOS888, have you ever been here? I'm paying my respects to you in the forum! I was afraid you might be bored alone, so I came to the preschool class with you again. Have you been working hard all the time, or still continuing to practice the invisibility technique? I came in several times by climbing over the wall using a friend's machine during the day, but didn't see you. I introduced your bitter experiences under DOS and your messages to Wengier and his followers to my friends around. When we drank beer and talked about heroes, we all unanimously recommended you as another great figure of the century after Master Li of Falun Gong, and all want me to ask you a question, "Was the Shenzhou 5 successfully launched under your correct guidance?" Don't listen to that guy llm blabbing around. You are magnanimous, why get angry with him. Let him continue to piece together what he calls the multi-functional maintenance CD, modify others' things, continue to show off so-called technology with borrowed products, and we chat about the original and completely independent operating system. There are already friends in the forum who compare you to Neo, the superhero in "The Matrix"!!! There is a saying in my hometown, I don't know if you can understand it, it says "Hearing the cawing of the lark, can you still not farm?" Do you think that's the truth. Also, the UN Secretary-General Annan asked me to bring you a sack of medals, saying that only you deserve to wear them, and Master Li didn't get any. Look here——



You continue to practice, I'll go back first, and we'll chat when I have time.

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Why did you include me...
Floor 24 Posted 2003-12-30 00:00 ·  中国 台湾 远传电信
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Haha, what tdj said is really good, it really made me laugh my guts out....

I can't just not cheer for tdj....


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Similar topics have appeared many times in the forum. Each time the content is so similar, and each time it causes such indignation.

In fact, everything has its reason for existence! Most of the time, it's because you don't understand this reason (or turn a blind eye to this reason) that you think its existence is particularly redundant.

In fact, when anything really reaches the point of "redundant existence" in fact, it will disappear naturally and doesn't need you to work so hard!

In addition, a boot disk (or CD) is not equal to DOS.

I can't help but feel that there is a strong sense of sarcasm in the original poster's words...
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The following is a quote from MLD on December 30, 2003 at 23:14:43:
Similar topics have appeared many times in the forum. Each time the content is so similar, and each time it causes such anger.

In fact, any thing has its reason for existence! Most of the time, it is because you do not understand this reason (or turn a blind eye to this reason) that you feel its existence is particularly unnecessary.

In fact, when anything is really "unnecessarily existing" in fact, it will naturally disappear without you having to work so hard!

In addition, a boot disk (or CD) is not equal to DOS.

I can't help feeling that there is a strong sense of irony in the original poster's words...
I completely agree!
Just like the test versions of M$ Windows/DOS, many people say they are unstable/eat up system resources, etc., but some people love their new ideas and new functions,
The original poster's statement is like looking at people through a keyhole
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The building owner's statement has certain reason, and the perspective is very sharp. I won't mention these advantages. I just want to talk about different opinions.

I feel that the building owner is using the characteristics of operating systems like LINUX to demand of DOS. Besides, FreeDOS itself is also free, and there are discussions in this forum. Everyone develops DOS according to their own needs, which is not essentially wrong. The higher requirements put forward by the building owner are difficult to achieve in the current situation. I think that for things that cannot be realized (or are difficult to be realized immediately), if you force them, it is like picking fruits before they are ripe, which is not well-considered. We need to have a process for any matter, and we can't become fat in one bite. The anxious mood is understandable, however, reality is reality. In addition, the way of speaking should also be considered. We can't just blurt out what we think. We should think twice before speaking (and we can also modify our posts if we make mistakes). It's best not to completely deny others' efforts, because this won't convince people. Because any thing has its reasons for existence and development, we should think from others' perspectives well before speaking, so that it may be more objective.

In addition, the building owner's remarks are very likely to cause intense debates. It seems that the building owner has foreseen that there will be debates before speaking. So, I think that for such remarks, we should think twice and modify them (there is no compulsion, just personal opinion). Of course, it's another matter if the building owner hopes for debates.

From another perspective, perhaps the debate itself is a good thing, which can make the parties involved in the debate understand each other's views and learn from each other's thoughts and perspectives. But if this can't be achieved, I'm afraid such a debate is meaningless.

Talking aimlessly, I don't have any special intention. If there are any improper places, please criticize and correct.
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Re All:

Just came along for the ride, purely to show support for the isolated dos888. Does not represent my own views. If there are any misunderstandings, I bear no responsibility :)

I secretly think (really quite modestly): MS-DOS is like the Chiang Kai-shek regime, once glorious and at its peak; then the People's Liberation Army of Windows appeared, changed the flag, and like autumn winds sweeping fallen leaves, the great country changed its master. So, "the Communists" became "the Communist Party," and "the Chiang Kai-shek regime" then became "the Chiang Kai-shek clique." Now, it only lingers in a corner in the southeast (even if it's a boot disk) barely surviving. Although there are "moral support" and "material gifts" from foreign forces, independence is already slim and a counterattack is just a daydream.

Then looking at Taiwan, Chiang Kai-shek is dead, Chiang Ching-kuo is dead, Soong May-ling is dead, the Kuomintang lost the election, so the Chiang Kai-shek regime should be over, right? But what is the current government? Indigenous forces (maybe domestic OS) or pro-US forces (maybe FreeDOS or other DOS)? Now, who isn't eyeing this piece of fat? Mainland China can be excluded, Japan, Southeast Asia, and the United States (or can refer to Linux, Unix, and such things) all try to have a piece.

The current situation is that Taiwan wants independence, Mainland China wants to recover, and the international community wants to maintain. Then, will the final outcome of Taiwan also foreshadow the future of DOS?

Once again, this article is purely a playful piece, does not represent personal views, and does not imply national politics. The author can't guarantee continued support for this article. You all can criticize as you like!

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What Chiang Kai-shek's regime, what independent operating systems, what security issues, what maintenance discs, all are nonsense. Because learning DOS is useful, so we need to learn. Because we want to better use it for ourselves, so we have to piece together. If you don't need it, you can not use it, and it's not up to you to tell others whether they need it or not.
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Hehe..Let me say two more things....
Whether DOS is useful or whether it will be eliminated, everyone can go and ask those who have written kernels to know~
And what the LZ said, developing a self-owned OS, this kind of thing is not something no one has done, but in the end it petered out, why this is the case, everyone must understand~
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