DOS boot disks: dragon-slaying skill, but where is the dragon? - China DOS Union Forum

There are too many files in there and it's too messy, really hard to modify...

But that GUI interface really is nice...

The following is quoted from Wengier's post on 2003-7-24 22:05:00:
Actually DOS（MS/ROM/Free-DOS）also boots from my hard drive... But the problem is, how can we make a DOS boot disk on a hard drive for everyone to download? That doesn’t seem very possible... so we have no choice but to make DOS boot disks on floppies...

Using ghost will do... ^^

The following is quoted from LK's post on 2003-7-24 19:05:55:
The powerful features of VC (DOS Explorer) are satisfying:

LK, could you upload the Chinese VC (DOS Explorer) software? Thanks.

I'd better just write a full MS-DOS 7.10 installer myself using BAT+WBAT... but the workload is really huge... I started from 0% this afternoon and wrote for several hours, and even now I've only finished about 75% of the whole installer...

Unconditional support

I think a large part of the reason why all the experts in the DOS Union are so devoted to DOS and work so hard is that MS-DOS is not our own, and Windows 9x～Windows XP～Windows 2003 are not our own either...
Obviously, at the current stage, our country's technical level is still several years behind that of foreign countries... For example, right now we might be able to make a DOS system stronger and easier to use than Microsoft's, but they've already moved on to 2003. There is no denying that the Windows series really is easier to use than DOS systems, at least for now on a worldwide scale. Abroad there may also be Unix, Linux, and more besides, while domestically the Microsoft banner is the one flying bright red... Many times the function of a boot disk is only to repair things after Windows crashes, or to install the system before anything has been installed at all... Wengier is a very strong expert, but even on his machine he still has to install Windows or Linux...
This is the DOS Union Forum, so naturally everyone's main topics are DOS-related. But in fact, the kernel of the Windows operating system was extended from DOS to begin with, so why can't we have a work that can replace Windows? Even though that is an extremely vast undertaking...
Maybe, as Wengier, Roy, Master Rushi, and Electric Guitar Invasion have said on the forum, we can expand on the basis of DOS, make it stronger and easier to use, slowly add a graphical interface, multithreading support, multifunctional network applications... and personally I also don't think it necessarily has to be installed on a floppy. However large WinImage can emulate, emulate that much, then burn it onto a CD, and I think its range of application would be even broader! Once it can replace other operating systems, then it can be installed on a hard drive and drive Microsoft out of the computer, making a real DOS (Disk Operating System)!!
Of course, DOS still cannot compete with Windows right now, but personally I think the DOS Union should pool everyone's wisdom, think about DOS applications in different situations such as network admins, system maintenance personnel, home use, etc., and release corresponding DOS systems, so that DOS systems can go one step further in these areas.

I only discovered the DOS Union in the past few days. In fact, I myself am just an extremely green newbie, maybe not even a newbie, maybe just a leaf. After coming here, I found experts everywhere. I greatly admire people like Rushi, Wengier, Roy, and others too (there are others as well, I just can't think of them all at the moment, sorry). Today I happened to see the OP bring up this topic, and these shallow views in my heart just came spilling out. I only hope everyone can discuss with each other; I mean absolutely no disrespect!

Now the main body of the MS-DOS 7.10 installer has finally basically been completed! Should I post it for everyone to take a look?

Welcome, enthusiastically!

Great! Looking forward to it!
It would be even better if you could post the introduction along with it.

Seeing so many ideas from everyone really makes me feel excited!!!
Thanks! Wengier

The following is quoted from zl7322's post on 2003-7-24 22:23:48:
Just like installing WINDOWS
installing a DOS system, I think WENGIER
can definitely do it!
For example: SETUPDOS
then everything's OK!

Right! WENGIER can definitely do it!

Everyone, take a look at this MS-DOS 7.10 installer I made:
http://www2.zzu.edu.cn/ie/newdos/dispbbs.asp?boardID=11&ID=5363

Sigh! I have nothing to say! DOS? WINDOWS? I only understand a tiny little bit of both!
If I were an expert, I'd develop a "KISS" operating system and never again
mess with DOS or WINDOWS. But helplessly, WINDOWS is too fragile,
so I can only keep following S, S, S—"

Sigh! I have nothing to say! DOS? WINDOWS? I only understand a tiny little bit of both!
If I were an expert, I'd develop a "KISS" operating system and never again
mess with DOS or WINDOWS. But unfortunately WINDOWS is too fragile,
so I can only keep following S, S, S—"
Really boring！

Floor16　Wengier	Posted 2003-07-25 00:00
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There are too many files in there and it's too messy, really hard to modify... But that GUI interface really is nice...

Floor17　电吉入侵	Posted 2003-07-25 00:00
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*The following is quoted from Wengier's post on 2003-7-24 22:05:00:* Actually DOS（MS/ROM/Free-DOS）also boots from my hard drive... But the problem is, how can we make a DOS boot disk on a hard drive for everyone to download? That doesn’t seem very possible... so we have no choice but to make DOS boot disks on floppies... Using ghost will do... ^^

Floor18　jssyq	Posted 2003-07-25 00:00
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*The following is quoted from LK's post on 2003-7-24 19:05:55:* The powerful features of VC (DOS Explorer) are satisfying: LK, could you upload the Chinese VC (DOS Explorer) software? Thanks.

Floor19　Wengier	Posted 2003-07-25 00:00
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I'd better just write a full MS-DOS 7.10 installer myself using BAT+WBAT... but the workload is really huge... I started from 0% this afternoon and wrote for several hours, and even now I've only finished about 75% of the whole installer...

Floor20　jssyq	Posted 2003-07-25 00:00
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Unconditional support

Floor21　cn_archer	Posted 2003-07-25 00:00
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I think a large part of the reason why all the experts in the DOS Union are so devoted to DOS and work so hard is that MS-DOS is not our own, and Windows 9x～Windows XP～Windows 2003 are not our own either... Obviously, at the current stage, our country's technical level is still several years behind that of foreign countries... For example, right now we might be able to make a DOS system stronger and easier to use than Microsoft's, but they've already moved on to 2003. There is no denying that the Windows series really is easier to use than DOS systems, at least for now on a worldwide scale. Abroad there may also be Unix, Linux, and more besides, while domestically the Microsoft banner is the one flying bright red... Many times the function of a boot disk is only to repair things after Windows crashes, or to install the system before anything has been installed at all... Wengier is a very strong expert, but even on his machine he still has to install Windows or Linux... This is the DOS Union Forum, so naturally everyone's main topics are DOS-related. But in fact, the kernel of the Windows operating system was extended from DOS to begin with, so why can't we have a work that can replace Windows? Even though that is an extremely vast undertaking... Maybe, as Wengier, Roy, Master Rushi, and Electric Guitar Invasion have said on the forum, we can expand on the basis of DOS, make it stronger and easier to use, slowly add a graphical interface, multithreading support, multifunctional network applications... and personally I also don't think it necessarily has to be installed on a floppy. However large WinImage can emulate, emulate that much, then burn it onto a CD, and I think its range of application would be even broader! Once it can replace other operating systems, then it can be installed on a hard drive and drive Microsoft out of the computer, making a real DOS (Disk Operating System)!! Of course, DOS still cannot compete with Windows right now, but personally I think the DOS Union should pool everyone's wisdom, think about DOS applications in different situations such as network admins, system maintenance personnel, home use, etc., and release corresponding DOS systems, so that DOS systems can go one step further in these areas. I only discovered the DOS Union in the past few days. In fact, I myself am just an extremely green newbie, maybe not even a newbie, maybe just a leaf. After coming here, I found experts everywhere. I greatly admire people like Rushi, Wengier, Roy, and others too (there are others as well, I just can't think of them all at the moment, sorry). Today I happened to see the OP bring up this topic, and these shallow views in my heart just came spilling out. I only hope everyone can discuss with each other; I mean absolutely no disrespect!

Floor22　沈洁	Posted 2003-07-25 00:00
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Yeah! Yeah!

Floor23　Wengier	Posted 2003-07-25 00:00
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Now the main body of the MS-DOS 7.10 installer has finally basically been completed! Should I post it for everyone to take a look?

Floor24　hunome	Posted 2003-07-25 00:00
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Welcome, enthusiastically!

Floor25　cn_archer	Posted 2003-07-25 00:00
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Great! Looking forward to it! It would be even better if you could post the introduction along with it.

Floor26　Klin625	Posted 2003-07-25 00:00
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Seeing so many ideas from everyone really makes me feel excited!!! Thanks! Wengier

Floor27　Klin625	Posted 2003-07-25 00:00
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*The following is quoted from zl7322's post on 2003-7-24 22:23:48:* Just like installing WINDOWS installing a DOS system, I think WENGIER can definitely do it! For example: SETUPDOS then everything's OK! Right! WENGIER can definitely do it!

Floor28　Wengier	Posted 2003-07-26 00:00
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Everyone, take a look at this MS-DOS 7.10 installer I made: http://www2.zzu.edu.cn/ie/newdos/dispbbs.asp?boardID=11&ID=5363

Floor29　6618	Posted 2003-07-27 00:00
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Sigh! I have nothing to say! DOS? WINDOWS? I only understand a tiny little bit of both! If I were an expert, I'd develop a "KISS" operating system and never again mess with DOS or WINDOWS. But helplessly, WINDOWS is too fragile, so I can only keep following S, S, S—"

Floor30　6618	Posted 2003-07-27 00:00
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Sigh! I have nothing to say! DOS? WINDOWS? I only understand a tiny little bit of both! If I were an expert, I'd develop a "KISS" operating system and never again mess with DOS or WINDOWS. But unfortunately WINDOWS is too fragile, so I can only keep following S, S, S—" Really boring！