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Floor 16 Posted 2007-04-22 10:22 ·  中国 广东 湛江 廉江市 电信
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Dear大侠, take care too!
I remember that you have made quite a few contributions to the China DOS Union. Maybe like namejm, you are temporarily leaving the union to focus on work. Come back and give some pointers when you have time.


[ Last edited by qasa on 2007-4-21 at 09:26 PM ]
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Floor 17 Posted 2007-04-22 11:11 ·  中国 河北 保定 联通
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I don't know why recently there has been a rush of new users. Although it should be a good thing, it hasn't given people any good feelings. The entire forum is a mess. It is suggested that the moderator pin the post of 7th floor 20080610 as a must-read for new users:


Please don't be a impatient person

1. Don't say "Give me a code" as soon as you see the first sentence of someone else's reply. You should think about why. When you figure it out yourself and then refer to others' hints, you will know the differences in thinking between yourself and others.
2. Beginners should not read too many books, as that will mislead. First, find a systematic one to study. Many people have been using it for a long time but only are familiar with part of the functions. It's not enough without a system.
3. Read the help. Don't not read it just because it's difficult and you are a beginner; the help is always the best reference manual. Although the text in the help is sometimes hard to understand and always feels not intuitive enough.
4. Don't be confused by terms like objects, properties, methods, etc.; the most fundamental thing is to first understand the most basic knowledge.
5. Don't let go of any seemingly simple small problem -- they are often not that simple, or can derive many knowledge points; if you can't think of other applications, you will never learn.
6. Knowing a little thing doesn't mean you can write scripts; scripts need experience accumulation.
7. Learning scripts is not difficult; ASP, PHP, etc. are also just so-so -- what's difficult is long-term persistent practice and unremitting extensive reading;
8. Reading too many books can't learn all about scripts; you need to practice more
9. It's better to remember outdated technologies in your heart than to keep fashionable technologies on your lips;
10. One of the best ways to learn scripts is to practice more; 11. At any time, don't think that the books you have are enough;
12. For books you can understand, read them carefully; for books you can't understand, read them with perseverance;
13. Don't expect to remember and master anything after reading the book for the first time -- please read it the second time, the third time;
14. Please practice the examples in the book on the computer by yourself, even if there are source files in the supporting CD;
15. Expand the meaningful examples you see in the book; and apply them practically to your own work;
16. Don't miss any exercises in the book -- please do all of them and record the ideas;
17. When you find that the method you are using is very clumsy halfway through using scripts, please don't stop immediately; please complete the remaining part roughly as soon as possible to ensure the integrity of this code, then analyze your mistakes and rewrite and work again.
18. Don't be impatient, writing scripts is really not easy; level is improved and developed in continuous practice;
19. When you learn a difficult point of scripts, try to explain this knowledge point to others and let them understand ---- you can explain it clearly to show that you really understand it;
20. Record the knowledge points that you ignored or didn't understand found in communication with others;
21. Keep all the source files you have done well ---- that's one of your best accumulations;
22. For the network, I still hope that everyone can make more use of it. Many problems don't have to be asked in the forum. First, you should learn to find answers by yourself. For example, Google, Baidu are very good search engines. You just need to enter keywords to find many relevant materials. Don't always wait for others to give you hope. It can be seen that you must be very lazy usually!

23. When you come to a forum, learn to look at previous posts. Don't post a thread without looking at anything. Maybe your question has been asked by someone else. If you ask again, others don't want to repeat it. As a beginner, no one wants their thread to have no replies.
24. Although it's not to discourage beginners, but this sentence still has to be said: Forum, forum, is a place for everyone to discuss. If you always expect experts to give you free guidance, unless he is your relative!! For discussion, at least those with similar levels can have a discussion. If the levels are too different, even basic operations need others to answer, who would discuss with you.


Impatient people are easy to ask: What on earth should I learn; ---- Don't ask, just learn;
Impatient people are easy to ask: Is learning scripts profitable; ---- It is suggested that you go to rob a bank;
Impatient people are easy to say: I want the Chinese version! My English is not good! ---- Can't? Learn it!
There are two kinds of impatient people: those who only watch and don't learn; those who learn but don't persist;
Impatient people will never be experts.


[ Last edited by baomaboy on 2007-4-22 at 11:14 AM ]
Floor 18 Posted 2007-04-22 22:30 ·  中国 河北 廊坊 三河市 移动
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Although I haven't posted for a while, I still care about the forum. I didn't expect it has developed to this extent.
This period is different from the previous ones of replacement because there are still not many people in the forum whose levels can reach est, 9527, 3742668, namejm, lxmxn, vkill, and these people have already posted very little or even stopped posting. The batch processing room is really in a situation of a lack of successors now.
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Floor 19 Posted 2007-04-23 02:12 ·  中国 广东 广州 海珠区 电信
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Oh... The experts are leaving one by one. There are still many things I don't understand.
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Floor 20 Posted 2007-04-23 02:33 ·  中国 江苏 连云港 电信
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Although I am quite inexperienced, I will actively help others
Floor 21 Posted 2007-04-23 11:15 ·  中国 北京 中国科学院研究生院
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Long time no see.

What's going on? Has this place changed?

I've also seen many people ask questions unrelated to batch.

Some just re-post casually, really......

But don't be too sad, old-timers. The situation can be changed.

Rules can be revised!

Rectify "writing style", "purify" elements.

Hehe, I might have overstated it.

Everyone, please forgive me!

Indeed a bit sad!

Floor 22 Posted 2007-04-23 11:19 ·  中国 北京 中国科学院研究生院
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Originally posted by ccwan at 2007-4-22 09:30:
Although I haven't posted for a while, I still care about the forum. I didn't expect it has developed to this extent.
This period is different from the previous replacement of the old and the new, because there are still few water ... in the current forum



I feel the same way

Also, I haven't come to take a look for a long time
The work in the research institute is too busy!

Hey.....

Floor 23 Posted 2007-04-24 00:06 ·  中国 甘肃 张掖 电信
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Rest in peace
Floor 24 Posted 2007-04-24 05:49 ·  中国 河北 保定 联通
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I also think so. Try to solve it by yourself as much as possible if you can solve it on your own.
Floor 25 Posted 2007-04-24 06:48 ·  中国 广东 广州 电信
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It is suggested that the forum change its system. For example, new members should be able to post after staying in this forum for a period of time, so that new users can first read the old posts (many technical forums are like this), thereby reducing repeated posts. To prevent excessive watermarking for points, there should not be a direct relationship between points and the number of posts, and so on...

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Floor 26 Posted 2007-04-29 22:00 ·  中国 河北 石家庄 电信
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Bump
Floor 27 Posted 2007-07-12 17:07 ·  中国 浙江 宁波 余姚市 电信
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I will draw on more in the future
Thanks a lot to the landlord
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Floor 28 Posted 2007-07-13 15:05 ·  中国 上海 电信
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Originally posted by axi at 2007-4-24 06:48:
It is suggested that the forum change the system, for example, new members need to stay in this forum for a period of time before they can post, so that new users can first read the old posts (many technical forums are like this), thereby reducing repeated posts, for...



Support this, modern people are too lazy, pick something ready-made, and even need to be fed to the mouth
Floor 29 Posted 2007-07-13 17:07 ·  中国 河南 郑州 联通
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I agree. The traditional Chinese concept is that relying on one's own efforts can bring abundant supplies and a good life!
Floor 30 Posted 2007-07-13 20:20 ·  中国 新疆 乌鲁木齐 电信
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Just highlight good questions. Ignore bad ones. Why bother~~~~~~~~~~~~
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