China DOS Union

Wengier and your followers:
Hello!
I admire you deeply for your remarkable talents in DOS. But to be honest, your abilities in this area are only limited to modifying others' work or piecing things together, all of which are borrowed products, not original and self-developed ones. It seems that Wengier is now abroad, so for you, it's even easier to use borrowed things.
China lacks a completely self-developed operating system, and there are significant security loopholes. I suggest that Wengier and his followers should expand it like Unix, instead of relying on others' programs to complete the so-called multi-functional maintenance CD, which is very narrow in meaning.
I apologize if my words have hurt the above friends. I'm just speaking the truth because I see so many people still addicted to this seemingly meaningful DOS maintenance CD.
Maintenance CDs are for experts. Do you need so many functions? I think you rarely use them yourself, but just use them to make the CD look bigger.
The software you use are all foreign software, such as that PE Builder, ERD Commander and so on. I think this is related to Wengier having stayed abroad. Foreign information in this regard is richer than ours.
Wengier and your followers, if you are really experts, please think about how to develop your own operating system. If not, don't show off your so-called technology grandly. Although the DOS era hasn't completely disappeared, operating systems should also keep up with the times. Don't always stay in place and reminisce.
Once I also thought that DOS was unbeatable, but later it was replaced by the Windows operating system. Now the survival of DOS is just a process. Once more advanced technologies are mature and applied, then DOS will really become an antique.
Once I desperately wrote drivers for a certain model of printer under DOS, and later in the Windows era, everything was so simple.
Once I was so excited to write so many codes to achieve simple colors to realize a graphic code under DOS, and only then did I realize it was so easy in the Windows era.
The hardships under DOS are still fresh in my memory. I want to say to DOS: Loving you is not easy!
I hope all friends who read this post will express their opinions, give their own views and quote extensively.
Thank you!!!

The reason why DOS still has vitality is that it is still useful.
And it is continuously supporting new technologies.
No one says that one has to use DOS. It's just because it's convenient and easy to use.
Collecting various tools is just to use them better.
Develop one's own operating system?
Who will use it when developed?
For self-entertainment?
It's not for DOS's sake, but for solving practical problems with DOS.

llm, you misunderstood my meaning. I mean, we should have our own operating system instead of relying on the so-called past glories pieced together. A self-developed system means you know more about security than others. It's not for self-entertainment, but to have more fresh blood in the operating system field. I didn't say to abandon DOS completely now; that's just a matter of time. For a great power with elites, always using others' operating systems, isn't that a bit...? Those who are always addicted to the DOS era should have difficulty making progress academically. After all, knowledge is updating, and we should keep up with the times!

dos888:
In my eyes, current DOS is like a new bud on a withered branch. Many characteristics of DOS are irreplaceable by systems like XP. DOS is a good platform for learning, applying, and then delving deeper and applying further. The relationship between the two is like the difference between an artist's brush and a digital camera. Using DOS is not about just modifying someone else's things or piecing things together randomly.
A country with a population of one billion will definitely have its own operating system. No matter who writes it, it will not be the result of a momentary impulse. Since you claim to love the country more than others, why don't you first write a completely self - owned operating system in China? To be honest, people like you can only harm the country at any time. You'd better first figure out what you have done, what you can do, and how you should do it before giving advice. You can call forum members Wengier and their followers, but what are you in the forum?

The so-called "own operating system", do you think China doesn't have it? There are many, many, just not this kind of universal one. And it's impossible for anyone to casually come up with a substitute. lindows wants to be compatible and it's so difficult. For domestic operating systems, even if they are developed, will you use them? You first give up office and use WPS, and then talk about domestic OS. Security? As long as it's not developed by you, what else can you talk about regarding security? What's wrong with using someone else's operating system? Many industrial standards are someone else's, do you not want to use them all? After talking for a long time, I can't see how what you said has to do with DOS. Let go of the useful things and not use them. What is progress? Have you heard a sentence? Bought a new pair of old pants

Why did dos888 leave like this? Is it a message or a last words?

The owner's own ideas are not wrong in any way. It's not good for the person upstairs to say that like that.

But the owner should understand that everyone pursues different things and wants different things. Isn't it more fair not to judge others according to your own views?

Also, even if the things made (like boot disks, etc.) you don't need, it's a bit excessive to say that others "show off so-called technology". At least W has made some things useful to others. May I ask what the owner has done? Even if you have made very good achievements, you shouldn't say that about others like that.

Maybe you want to put forward some opinions, but please pay attention to your words!!!

But I admit that I agree with some of your views. The things being done now are of little use, but this can only be said to be my own view.

Just take this opportunity to also state my own view. The functions of these things being done now (like boot disks, etc.) are not great, but the actual situation is that our level can't do too much. But I hope we can develop towards a certain goal. And now it seems a bit aimless. But the owner's saying of making a system of his own, I think it's being overambitious.

It seems that today I'm going to offend everyone.

lane:
I think the post on the sixth floor was a bit excessive, but I won't change my evaluation of the person named dos888. To gain the respect of others, one should first respect others, especially the labor achievements of others. I admit my technical level isn't high, but I really want to have a discussion with this person about outlook on life and computer technology. Let's see if he is qualified to evaluate others!
The joke about the avatar in the water area, please don't take it to heart. However, looking at your avatar still makes me want to laugh. Congratulations on having your avatar back safely.

tdj is quite emotional. It's just a discussion, no need to be so excited.

Please leave a message and share your feelings about DOS, without emotions.

There are clearly two questions: independent OS and whether to still use DOS. Developing an independent general-purpose OS and using DOS, neither is a must. The former has no practical significance in this forum. The latter is entirely voluntary. Those who think DOS is still useful will come to this forum, right?

btw: Is the moderator a girl?

to dos888:
Actually, I can't be blamed for getting excited. It's you who have placed yourself on the opposite side of the forum members. Since you said it's a discussion, I don't want to cite extensive references now. I just want to continue the "discussion" with you as an "Follower of Wengier".
"Your abilities in this regard are only limited to foreign countries. For you, foreign goods are easier. China lacks a completely independent operating system, and there are huge vulnerabilities in terms of security risks." First of all, I want to know what model of "homegrown chip" the CPU of your computer is. Is it like mine, using a foreign product? I don't take pride in this. Under the existing circumstances, according to your suggestion, should we vigorously develop China's abacus?
"If you, Wengier and your followers, are really experts, please think about how to develop your own operating system." What is your understanding of "independent operating system"? What are the requirements? I want to hear your grand ideas first.

Has dos888 been here? I'm eagerly looking forward to your Lenin-like guidance!!

May I ask if dos888 has been here? Did they change their username or join the navy submarine force?

tdj:
Hehe, you are quite humorous. (You are the one wearing a disguise, I need to work, can't always be hanging out here)
For an individual, the choice of operating system is now diverse, but for a country, the diversification of the operating system seems a bit dangerous.
We already have our own independently developed CPU, and we should also have our own OS. If an abacus could be powered on, I think your suggestion could be considered.
My concept of an independent operating system is: the core design should be developed by our own technicians, not borrowed or modified from others. After all, the core part is important. First-hand information is better than always consulting others. Do we want to wait for others' patches all the time???

Really funny. The self-developed CPU naturally uses a self-developed OS (or one with open source code). Do you think Loongson and Zhongzhi can run XP? Zhongzhi is the team led by our boss Cheng. You can ask him.