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Original Poster Posted 2005-08-17 22:53 ·  中国 河北 保定 联通
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I have a personal flaw of being fond of teaching others, but as the saying goes, "Without rules, there can be no order." Since the forum has been established, in order to make it run better, it is necessary to formulate some basic rules. Everyone can use the forum correctly and normally according to these basic rules, so that the forum can better serve everyone. The following basic rules are mostly copied from the CD boot area of the Wuyou Boot Forum, and there are many imperfect places. I hope both new and old users will come in to discuss and put forward your opinions and suggestions. As long as they are reasonable suggestions and opinions, we will seriously consider and comply with them. In short, the only purpose is to serve everyone well.

I. Posting the topic post in the appropriate section

Before posting in the forum, we first need to figure out the basic question of what the forum is for. Speaking of this problem, the functions of the forum are really numerous, but generally speaking, the forum is a place where people are allowed to express their own views. People's views are really too diverse. In order to facilitate people to express different views on the same problem, the forum generally sets up classifications (that is, sub-forums) according to different topics. Therefore, a basic principle for us to post is: Post the topic post in the appropriate section. I think everyone can understand this requirement. Of course, sometimes the number of visitors in some sub-forums is too small, and no one pays attention to a help-seeking post. We understand this problem. So sometimes if you post an inappropriate post in a certain section, we have no objection. We hope you will say hello to the moderator in the post title. The moderator will definitely let it pass, but we hope that after the problem is solved, the person seeking help will say hello again so that the moderator can move the post back to the appropriate section.

In addition, please do not post posts of the following categories:
1. Posts that violate national laws or social ethics and morals.
2. Posts that attack others or other forums and create conflicts. If you have any opinions on someone, put them forward directly, but do not be hurtful in words. Everyone is a cultured person. I do not want everyone to hurt feelings because of trivial matters.

II. Watering is not welcome in sub-forums other than leisure and entertainment

The resources of the forum are very tight. For the sake of saving resources, everyone should still understand this requirement. What kind of post is considered watering? Personally, I think there are the following points:
1. Posts that are irrelevant to the topic of the section.
2. Repeated posts.
3. Replies that are irrelevant to the content of the topic post.
4. Replies that are purely "support", "top" and such.
5. Other posts that the management considers watering.
Of course, rules are inflexible, but people are flexible. Appropriate watering is not impossible, but it should be done in moderation and avoided if possible. In particular, it should be pointed out that if a master posts a purely technical post that needs everyone to discuss and improve, only replies discussing the problem should appear behind such a post later (I think all posts that support or top are watering).

III. About posting a question post

All enthusiastic people will care about your question

We (including moderators and all those willing to answer questions) know that you come here to solve problems. I think all enthusiastic people are willing to guide you to solve problems, but most of the time we are not likely to teach you step by step how to do it. We will point you to a clear path, and then it is up to you to put in hard work and effort. People who only know to wait for food to be served and clothes to be handed over are not welcome, because no one is willing to pay attention to lazy people.

Before asking the question...

1. First, figure out what problem you have encountered. If you do not even know what problem you have encountered, then no one can help you.

2. Second, first browse the content of the sticky posts in the forum related to your problem, then search for previous related posts according to the keywords of your determined problem, carefully study all the content related to your problem (this is the hard work and effort you need to put in before asking the question), and then do more practice to try to digest all the basic concepts, knowledge and skills first. Without related basic knowledge, even if others tell you the answer, you may be at a loss.

3. Basically, if you have read through all the content of the sticky posts and searched the previous posts of the forum, 99% of the problems have been solved. If your problem is still not known how to solve, then please first read carefully the two articles " Wisdom in Asking Questions (click to read)" and "How to Effectively Report a Bug (click to read)" (must read from the beginning to the end carefully), and then see what else you need to do to ask the question under the guidance of these two posts.

4. In the process of reading previous posts, if you think the content of this post is really good, the only thing you can do is to study hard. Never add a sentence like "support" or "top" at the end of the post to express your excitement, because this will bring some old posts back to the front of the forum again (which is very annoying for most people). However, if you are sure that you have found an error in the original post, you can post your opinion at the end of the original post. We always hope that our posts are getting more and more perfect.

5. Although we provide some software downloads, this forum is not a software download forum. If you want to find a download link of a certain software, please first check if there is a related download link in the related post. If not, please first try to search for the download link with "Google (click to visit)", and if still not found, try to post to ask for it.

Asking the question

1. Write a good title for your help-seeking post. Concisely describe the problem you have encountered in the title, so that the master can roughly know what problem you have encountered when seeing your post title. For titles with no substantial content, I think many people are very disgusted and will ignore them, because this is purely a waste of everyone's time. In addition, some people may be eager to solve their problem, so they can't wait to show extreme eagerness in the title, which is actually meaningless. The old saying goes: Haste makes waste.

The most failed titles (the content after // is our evaluation and reaction to such titles):

Help
Dear great people, I have a question to ask...
Can anyone help me!! Thanks!!
Seeking advice on a simple question
Dear experts, come and take a look
Please everyone
Help me
I'm going crazy, what on earth is going on
I'm so anxious, who can help me
// What on earth is this? Can't you write it clearly in the title to save my time?

Moderator (or a certain master's name), come in, I have a question to ask
// This person is not talking to me, ignore it

Kneeling to ask xxx
// I personally hate the word "kneeling to ask" in the title the most. You are an upright person. If you are not capable, don't bring shame to your ancestors

Seeking advice on Ghost problem
// There are hundreds and thousands of Ghost problems. What aspect of the problem is it exactly?

If you think your post is not well written or does not meet the requirements, you can always use the "edit" function of the forum to modify your post. In the forum, it is rare to see people modify their own posts. Even if you remind them, they don't modify them. Is it because they don't know how? If not, please study the forum help in detail. Of course, people with a heart will see the "edit" button at the bottom right of the post.

2. In the content of the post, describe the problem you have encountered, your operating environment, and the work you have done according to the guidance of "Wisdom in Asking Questions" and "How to Effectively Report a Bug". Where you want others to help you, don't count on others to teach you step by step (I believe many people are willing to do this when starting to help others, but they definitely won't do it all the time), because we all deeply understand the truth that giving a man a fish is worse than teaching him how to fish. By the way, with the progress of personal technology, I find more and more that people's knowledge and experience are obtained by their own hard work. Relying on others' guidance is meaningless. One more thing to add: If your mother tongue is Chinese, please write your post in standard Chinese. Try not to have wrong characters, the sentences should be smooth, pay attention to the reasonable use of punctuation marks, try to use less online language. In addition, don't make the text color fancy or the font size inconsistent. Proofread your post by yourself before posting (because sharpening the axe doesn't delay the woodcutting work), correct those obvious grammatical errors, and in short, let others understand what you are saying and what problem you have encountered. Chinese is an excellent cultural heritage left to the world by our ancestors. All of us Chinese have the responsibility and obligation to carry it forward instead of spoiling it.

3. Don't expect someone to answer your question immediately after you ask it, because after all, everyone can't be in the forum 24/7 just to solve problems for others. After all, everyone has their own things to do and their own things to learn, and others may also need time to digest your question. Solving problems in the forum is generally inefficient. If you are not satisfied with such an inefficient way of solving problems, then paying for technical support is a good way! : Generally speaking, everyone comes to the forum to meet their own needs in some aspects, and everyone wants to spend a pleasant time in the forum. Therefore, whether to answer a question or reply to a post completely depends on the mood and will of the poster. Anyone has the right to ignore any person's question without bearing any psychological burden. The questioner had better avoid using sentences like "Is my question too difficult (or too basic), why no one pays attention?" or similar sentences to affect others' pleasant (or unpleasant) mood when reading the post. It is clearly pointed out here that this kind of behavior is strictly prohibited in this forum. If the questioner finds that his post is ignored by everyone (or most people), you have no right to complain about anyone. I think what you can do is to find reasons from yourself more (carefully studying this basic code of conduct is a wiser way, because you may find the answer from here).

4. If others point out the way for you to solve the problem, please try it hard and feed back the result in time. Don't assume that others' answer is not feasible and argue with them. If someone answers off the point, don't complain, and don't speak rudely. After all, everyone's level is different. After all, they want to help you. Even if not, at least they have paid attention to your question and helped you top the post.

5. Posts that do not meet this basic code of conduct will generally be moved to "Forum Recycle Bin" after the moderator's reminder is invalid (set as three days how?), and we try not to delete posts. In case of this situation, don't bear grudges. After all, everyone should give each other face. Of course, if you have modified the post well, you can PM the moderator and let him help you move the post back.

6. Don't post the same question repeatedly. If your post is pushed to the back by new posts and does not attract enough people's attention, you can mention your post to the front by replying on the original post.

7. Try to publicly feed back problems and bugs through posts, and avoid privately asking questions through PM, QQ and other instant messaging tools or Email, because this is a waste of others' time and resources. The discussion and reply in the post can be seen by all people visiting the forum, so that others can refer to the problem and solution you encounter, thus greatly saving various resources.

After the problem is solved

1. If your problem is really solved, please edit the top post to summarize the problem, describe the root cause of the problem and the solution, and thank all those who helped you. Don't forget to modify the title of the top post, add the words "" in front of the title. This will make us have a sense of achievement, and also show your support for our work!

2. If your problem is not perfectly solved, don't complain. After all, we are all human beings, not gods, and we will definitely continue to pay attention to your problem until a more perfect solution is found.

IV. For all masters and those who want to help others

1. If you want to help a newbie, please try to give easy-to-understand instructions and guidance. After all, he is a newbie, and we have all been newbies. Provide them with more detailed information and materials (even software) as much as possible, so that we can help people thoroughly and see them through.

2. If you think he is really too newbie and you are powerless, then please maintain a little tolerance and patience, and at least you can keep silent.

3. Please learn to use well the language and characters left to us by our ancestors, and use them to clearly express your thoughts and views. We don't ask for gorgeous words, but at least be concise and clear, make fewer wrong characters, make fewer wrong sentences, and use punctuation marks correctly. The history of Chinese civilization has lasted for thousands of years. Don't let this human treasure be ruined in our generation. This item is especially for those who have knowledge but can't describe it well in words.

VI. Rights and obligations of moderators

1. Moderators have the obligation to help everyone find the solution to the problem when time and conditions permit. But moderators are after all limited in ability and may not be able to help everyone solve all problems, so please understand.

2. Moderators have the obligation to summarize the classic posts in this section to the sticky essence summary post and organize the sticky essence summary post in a certain order to facilitate everyone's reference.

3. Moderators have the right to modify, move, lock and delete posts in this section. But for the sake of fairness, we try not to delete posts (except repeated posts), but we will lock or move some posts that do not meet the requirements, and try to note the reasons.

This basic code of conduct will be continuously supplemented and improved according to the actual situation. We also hope that everyone will put forward more opinions and suggestions. In short, let us spend a pleasant time here and be able to learn some useful things.

[ Last edited by Climbing on 2008-11-21 at 13:47 ]
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redtek +2 2006-10-31 09:47
偶只喜欢回答那些标题和描述都很清晰的帖子!
如想解决问题,请认真学习“这个帖子”和“这个帖子”并努力遵守,如果可能,请告诉更多的人!
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Comply!

This code is more complete than the previous one.

Strongly recommend Climbing to be the moderator!!!
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Floor 3 Posted 2005-08-17 23:41 ·  加拿大 Bell
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Climbing writes well, give a support~
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I don't want to be a moderator. I would have been one long ago. I just want to help some people establish correct methods and habits for using the forum.
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Re Climbing:

Thanks for Brother Jie's efforts!

I want to decide whether to put it at the top according to the "effective reply amount" of this topic. Replies that are purely supportive or top posts will not be considered (including Wengier's post on the 3rd floor). Currently, my consideration is more than 10. What's your opinion, Brother Climbing?

As for whether to put it at the top, whether the effect of putting it at the top on the reading rate is good or bad, I want to listen to Brother Jie's current opinion.
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Re willsort:

Thanks for your recognition, brother! Whether it's pinned or not, it doesn't matter to me. But similarly, whether it's pinned or not, not many people will read it. If I'm not mistaken, if we remove the replies from our few people, this post may hardly get more than 10 replies. I put it here just for my own convenience of citing. I'll put its link in my signature, that's all.
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It's really well written. Of course, don't take me as a spammer, heh;) To be honest, I used to like spamming when browsing forums, and I didn't think of spamming as something, whether it's civilized or not? After reading your brilliant remarks, I will definitely change it in the future~~~
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Hehe
To be honest
That makes a lot of sense (we young people don't know the rules)
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...If my prediction is correct, if we remove the replies from a few of us, this post may hardly get more than 10 replies...

It's almost 3 years since this post from 2005, and it really got "predicted",

Climbing has put this post in his signature. The click-through rate is over 1200, and on average, less than 1 in 100 people reply!!! I'm really dizzy, extremely dizzy!

No, I need to think, what's the reason?

It's not that there aren't 10 replies, but that people are afraid that their replies will be regarded as "flooding" by the楼主. Also, there are people who delete their own replies a few days after replying. These I consider to be "good" members, but there are also those "outsiders" who "take away everything from us".

Looking at the old posts again and again, the feeling is different each time, but those senior post creators are leaving one by one. It's rare to see them post again in the forum.
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Although I'm not an old member, I can feel the expectation of the post creator. If we always let those seniors who provided convenience for us down, they will gradually lose motivation, from saying more to saying less, from saying less to not saying, and finally become onlookers, then come to this home less and less, and finally their departure is inevitable!

What to rely on to retain good members? This is not a single person's job, but depends on the entire atmosphere of the forum.

Why haven't I seen a post like "Deepin"?
http://bbs.deepin.org/read.php?tid=610917
Please encourage post creators more. If we want the forum to grow, we need to think about sharing and communicating, not just wanting to take. Look at forums like CCF, Feifan, there's still a lot we need to do.


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On April Fool's Day, someone bumped up this old post, which is really a bit of black humor.

After reading the above-quoted post from the "Deep Forum", to be honest, when it comes to the number of loyal users of the DOS Union forum, I'm afraid it's not comparable to Deep. Personally, I feel the two forums are not at the same level. The DOS Union is a pure technology-oriented forum. Here, it's rare to see people talking about emotions, and even if there are, it's involuntary. Moreover, it's always free here; you can come and go as you please, and no one ever asks what you got here or what you gave back. I think it's not interesting to make a pure technology forum seem like a relationship.

The DOS Union is a rare forum in China that has always maintained the purity of the forum, not for profit, purely for technology. Wuyou is also okay, and then our sysoft time forum. Of course, I don't visit many other forums, maybe I'm a bit parochial (suddenly I found that the Deep Forum is also very clean, no ads, I registered an account there a long time ago, but I haven't visited it for many years, and I found that the original account is still retained).
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Such a good post really deserves to be topped up. But I just saw it and must follow the rules of C大侠.
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Got it,各位 moderators
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This post can be regarded as a classic forum code of conduct.
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I've seen it, it's very good.
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Just hope someone will reply when posting for help.

In other rules, I have a clear conscience, at least I know to be polite.

A polite person is not to be disliked.

Thanks.
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