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Original Poster Posted 2004-06-17 00:00 ·  中国 北京 海淀区 联通
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Why does this forum in the new DOS era choose DVBBS?
Using DVBBS is really too bad. The opening speed is unacceptably slow, and the search function is very weak. Without a good search function, the role of the forum is reduced by ten times.
Also, the advertisement header on each page is too large. Often, you open a screen and can't see any posts without dragging the scrollbar down. (The top is all advertisement headers.) Everyone doesn't use this website anymore, so do they still not know the URL of this website?
Strongly suggest that the forum be redesigned, and using a PHP forum like PHPBB is better.
I really like DOS, and I also use a large number of programs developed under DOS in my current products. But the form of this forum is really annoying. (Annoyed but have to come, even more annoyed.)
The following is the advertisement header that each page of this forum has: Is it necessary??????

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I also feel that the web interface has a "top-heavy" feeling, it should be changed. The speed is slow, I originally thought it was my slow internet speed, but it's the same for everyone.
Floor 3 Posted 2004-07-09 00:00 ·  中国 北京
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I also think it should be replaced! The PHP forum mentioned above I think is very powerful. Suggestion: POSTNUKE/PHP-NUKE + PHPBB2. Maybe some places need to be localized into Chinese. Now it seems there is no complete simplified Chinese version. Please consider it~
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The key flaw of Discuz! BBS is the lack of a good full-text search function for the forum. This is related to the mechanism of ASP. Almost all ASP forums, if full-text search is enabled, will become even slower and slower.
Forum owners can consider using PHPBB - like forums. There are software available to transfer the Discuz! BBS database to PHPBB. After conversion, all posts and user information will be retained.
The search function of PHPBB forums is very powerful. It doesn't matter if a forum has some slightly less - functional features. The key is to have a good search function. A forum is not a running diary but a repository, and a repository really needs full - text search!!!!!
The fact that this forum is slow is a well - recognized fact, and it can't be explained by a slow network speed.
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Re All: The speed seems to be greatly related to the operating system, internet access environment, and online time, and cannot be generalized. However, when using dvbbs5.0 originally, the speed was indeed much more stable. In November, I had more than a dozen times when I couldn't log in to the forum, and after a while, I could log in again. Moreover, I have basically been unable to use win98 to access the forum, and the speed is unusually slow, which seems to be related to script interpretation. Regarding the full-text search, I once also appealed, and the forum moderator also opened it, but after the upgrade, it can no longer be used. It is estimated that the speed is still the key issue. As a highly technical DOS forum, in fact, many functions of "Discuz!" are somewhat excessive, and some function settings related to users are not very in line with the habits of DOS forum users. Ubb code should not be supported. However, the biggest problem in my use is still the script. I often save some forum topic web pages as reference materials, but since I often browse these materials under DOS, the scripts filling in the page files cause great inconvenience for browsing. Even if I use the "display as printable version" function provided by the forum, there are still problems such as text segments not automatically wrapping. If I use the save as text file function provided by IE, it is very time-consuming. I don't know much about the forum system, but if the moderator considers changing the system, stability is the first consideration. It is most important to have a relatively good performance in all systems. After all, many users of the DOS forum use win98 or even DOS to access the internet. Secondly, the resource consumption of the system should be considered, and the simplicity of the layout and the simplification of functions are also a relatively important balance. In addition, a system with function settings偏重 technical forums rather than general forums can be considered.
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Ashamed! I only used Windows 98 for two or three months, and then I've been using Windows XP all the time.
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The speed of the forum is indeed relatively slow. So as pointed out by willsort, if full-text search is opened, it will more seriously reduce the overall performance and access speed of the forum operation. There were some reasons why the forum was changed from DV5 to DV7 at that time (for example, for some reason, some forum sections could not be accessed normally even in the last few days before the upgrade, and it was solved after the upgrade). Although in fact, I am not very satisfied with both DV5 and DV7 myself (for example, the current DV7 forum cannot be accessed normally even under pure DOS, while the previous DV5 could; and DV5 also has various problems), but due to the conversion problem of the forum and the database (for example, converting to PHP is much more complicated than upgrading the forum itself), and reasons such as time, it has not been replaced newly. If administrators like autoit see it, it is不妨 to also say something about their views on these problems.
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The key is that the forum database is Access, and it has exceeded 100M.... It's because it's too large.
Floor 9 Posted 2004-12-31 00:00 ·  中国 北京 联通
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There are two types of databases for DVBBS, ACCESS and MS SQL. Looking at the above replies, this forum uses the ACCESS database. We just need to convert the ACCESS database to the MYSQL database. As long as one has a little understanding of databases, it can be successfully converted. Moreover, we may even find ready-made conversion tools. The reason why the forum speed is sometimes fast and sometimes slow is related to the server where the forum space is located. For the ACCESS database, the server where the space is located must be installed with the WINDOWS operating system. It is well-known that on the server side, WINDOWS is not as good as LINUX. Also, a server of a space provider must be allocated to multiple (dozens or hundreds) different users for use. The DOS forum can not turn on full-text search, but other users' forums on the same server may have turned on full-text search. Databases based on ACCESS or MS SQL will consume a large amount of server CPU resources during search, thus greatly affecting the speed of other users on the same server. If we use a LINUX-based server as the forum space, we can only use MYSQL as the database. The MYSQL database will also consume some CPU resources during search, but the consumption is less than that of Microsoft's. Also, a LINUX-based server can very conveniently limit the maximum CPU resources that a domain name user can occupy. For example, DOSBBS can occupy at most 5% of the CPU resources, that is, whether other users on the same server run programs that consume large resources has nothing to do with the speed of their own forum.
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Below is the statement made by autoit on December 23, 2004 at 16:55:09:
The key is that the forum database is Access, and it has exceeded 100M.... That's probably the reason for being too large.

The number of registered users and the number of posts published in this forum are not particularly large, and this is not the reason for the slow speed.
Take a look at this PHPBB forum: http://www.netpcforum.org/pn/index.php
Currently, a total of 277,396 posts have been published
Currently, there are a total of 34,244 registered members
And the total number of posts in DOSBBS is: Total number of posts: 86,757 posts
You can compare the speeds, guys.
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I haven't found a tool to directly transfer from DVBBS to PHPBB, but you can first transfer to IPB and then transfer from IPB to PHPBB.

I found a program to transfer from DVBBS to PHPWIND. (You can find it by searching online.)

PHPWIND is a relatively good PHPBB - like forum developed by Chinese people.
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Still change a forum program, the current speed is so slow that it's uncomfortable!
Floor 14 Posted 2005-07-23 11:04 ·  中国 北京 海淀区 联通
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Haha, finally changed to a PHP forum!!! So happy!!!
No longer have to wait苦苦.

Threw away DVBBS and switched to a PHP forum, this is better than anything!!! This was my suggestion a year ago. Now it's finally realized, and there are no major problems with data conversion, which is already very good!
The administrator also accepted my other suggestion: reduced the height of the advertisement at the top, which is also very good.

Why didn't the moderators listen to my suggestions earlier? You see, the current speed is really worlds apart from the previous speed. It's a pity how much time the previous DOS forum's speed wasted me???

Discuz! BBS is too bad too bad too bad~!!!!!
Definitely don't use DVBBS for making a larger forum! What's the use of those fancy functions? How many people use them???????
I can't wait to acquire this Discuz! BBS company one day and then immediately publicly announce that it goes bankrupt and closes.

[ Last edited by areyong on 2005-7-23 at 11:14 ]
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Hehe, areyong said it well!

But the forum is much faster than before. Besides the forum being converted to PHP, there is another important reason, which is changing the server. The current server is a new one, and the bandwidth is also much larger.
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