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xugaohui
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『第 16 楼』:
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tftpd32.exe的功能太差,它的tftp服务的速度极慢。客户机下载镜像时太慢了。dhcp功能也太弱了。做启动镜像一定要用embot,否则没有undi。PXELINUX 可以加载普通镜文件但常规内存会少90K,原文 http://syslinux.zytor.com/archives/2003-June/002175.html
这个启动镜像是不会考虑带ftp的。dos下使用ftp客户端很麻烦,已有tftpd和tftp功能,一样可以下载上传。
再次测试memdisk加载大于2880K 的非标准镜像文件并使用参数keeppxe,经常会出现不会读A盘错误,放弃pxelinux,也可能pxegrub+memdisk也会有同样的现象。
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The functionality of tftpd32.exe is too poor. The speed of its tftp service is extremely slow. It's too slow when the client downloads the image. The dhcp function is also too weak. To make a boot image, you must use embot, otherwise there is no undi. PXELINUX can load ordinary image files but the conventional memory will be reduced by 90K. Original http://syslinux.zytor.com/archives/2003-June/002175.html
This boot image doesn't consider including ftp. Using an ftp client under DOS is very troublesome. There are already tftpd and tftp functions, and it can also download and upload.
Test again that when memdisk loads a non-standard image file larger than 2880K and uses the parameter keeppxe, there are often errors where it can't read drive A, and give up on pxelinux. Maybe pxegrub + memdisk will have the same phenomenon.
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『第 17 楼』:
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tftpd32.exe没你说的那么差吧, 我试过了, 而且启动镜像本来就不用太大吧
因为怕tftp传输不如ftp稳定(? 其实我除了用tftp pxe启动过, 没用过tftp,不太熟)
所以让启动镜像带ftp的话, 就可以方便很多.
tftpd32的确小巧轻便, 可以放在u盘上, 不用再去化大力气装dhcpd 和tftp服务器了,当然功能方面不如后面的稳定也能容忍.
个人意见.
tftpd32.exe isn't as bad as you said, I've tried it, and the boot image doesn't need to be too large in the first place. Because I'm afraid that tftp transmission isn't as stable as ftp (actually, I've only used tftp for PXE booting, I'm not familiar with tftp). So if the boot image has ftp, it will be much more convenient. tftpd32 is indeed small and portable, can be placed on a USB flash drive, and there's no need to go to the trouble of installing dhcpd and tftp servers. Of course, the functional aspect being less stable than the latter is also tolerable. Personal opinion.
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『第 19 楼』:
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我全部用WINDOWS2000自带的软件实现了PXE的DOS启动进行GHOST网克或做其他的维护工作。DHCP就是2000服务器版自带的组件。TFTP也不用第三方的,只要你选择了2000系统“远程安装服务”,就会自动安装一个叫“Trivial FTP Daemon”的后台服务。你把它设为自动运行就行了,很稳定。
本人正研究利用PXE无盘启动进行有盘系统的维护工作,比如对机房管理者来说经常会临时性的承担一些任务,要更新电脑系统平台或安装新软件,用一段时间,如果能做一个专门的无盘服务器,挂上各种做好的镜像。维护起来非常的方便和轻松!希望同道来研究。我的QQ:19043255
I have completely used the software built into WINDOWS 2000 to achieve PXE DOS boot for GHOST network cloning or other maintenance work. DHCP is the built-in component of the 2000 Server Edition. TFTP also doesn't use third-party ones. As long as you select the "Remote Installation Service" of the 2000 system, a background service called "Trivial FTP Daemon" will be automatically installed. Just set it to start automatically, and it's very stable.
I am currently researching the use of PXE diskless boot for maintenance of disk-based systems. For example, for computer room managers who often temporarily take on some tasks, such as updating the computer system platform or installing new software, after using it for a period of time, if a dedicated diskless server can be made and various made images can be mounted, maintenance will be very convenient and easy! Hope fellow enthusiasts to study. My QQ: 19043255
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『第 20 楼』:
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十几兆的镜像? 挺大的,
不过我现在在单位里做的是一个10G的镜像,上面放了一堆的GHOST镜像,
98,2000,XP,2003等等,各种工具应有尽有,工作站PXE启动后随便用
就可以了,很方便的
我用的是Ardence软件。
A dozen or so megabytes of image? That's quite large, :)
But what I'm doing at work now is a 10G image, with a bunch of GHOST images on it, 98, 2000, XP, 2003, etc., and all kinds of tools are available. After the workstation PXE boots, you can use it casually, which is very convenient.
I'm using the Ardence software.
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『第 21 楼』:
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与你的有所不同,我做的是16M的软盘镜像,启动后是A盘,你采用Ardence,客户机启动后是虚拟10Gscsi硬盘。我也想过这样做,但失去undi功能了。服务端安装也复杂的多,比3com vld还要麻烦,可能对很多人安装服务端软件比较困难,当客户机pxe版本太低时,也可以连接不到虚拟硬盘。这种方式仅需要一个绿色软件hanewin dhcp server。
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It's different from yours. I made a 16M floppy disk image, and after booting, it's drive A. You use Ardence, and after the client boots, it's a virtual 10G scsi hard disk. I also thought about doing this, but I lost the undi function. The server installation is also much more complicated, more troublesome than 3com vld. Maybe it's difficult for many people to install the server software. When the client's pxe version is too low, it may not be able to connect to the virtual hard disk. This method only needs a green software hanewin dhcp server.
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rubik
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『第 22 楼』:
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把本来用来做XP的软件用来作DOS,像是有点大材小用
不过真的挺好用的。安装什么的对大家来说不是什么难事
而且你也说了主要针对企业等单位用户
过分追求简单化、傻瓜化是不是也太极端了?
Using software originally intended for XP for DOS seems a bit like misusing resources. But it's really quite easy to use. Installing and such isn't a difficult thing for everyone. And you also said it's mainly aimed at enterprise and other unit users. Is going too extreme in over - pursuing simplicity and being user - friendly?
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这东西真的不错,netstart以后,主机和客机的文件怎么传呢?比如从主机传一个iso文件到客机呢?
This thing is really good. After netstart, how to transfer files between the host and the client? For example, how to transfer an iso file from the host to the client?
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xugaohui
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『第 24 楼』:
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netstart之后执行映射网络驱动器
net use v: \\server\sharename
将计算机名为serverv,共享名为sharename,映射为v盘,现在v盘对应sharename下面的文件。现在可以直接复制iso到客户机的硬盘。也可以直接打开iso文件,执行LOADISO iso文件。
After netstart, execute the mapping of the network drive:
net use v: \\server\sharename
Map the share named sharename on the computer named serverv as drive V, and now drive V corresponds to the files under sharename. Now you can directly copy the ISO to the client's hard drive. You can also directly open the ISO file and execute LOADISO the ISO file.
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谢谢楼主,我从主机传一个iso文件成功了。
Thanks to the landlord, I successfully transferred an ISO file from the host.
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『第 26 楼』:
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我这儿 http://www.argontechnology.com/ 那个PXE.img不能用,说是
No Argon CMS server found!
难道是专用的?
我一直在找这种网卡不带PXE启动芯片、主板也不带PXE功能的普通电脑
的PXE启动的方法,受你的启发,又再找了一下,原来windows自带的rbfg.exe
就可以。(即remote boot floppy generator)
rbfg+Avlgomgr_2006, 全部搞定(虽然RBF支持的网卡有限,但基本够用)
只是好像一加载himem.sys就启动不了
The PXE.img at http://www.argontechnology.com/ here doesn't work. It says
No Argon CMS server found!
Is it exclusive?
I've been looking for a way to PXE boot on a common computer without a PXE boot chip on the network card and without PXE functionality on the motherboard. Inspired by you, I looked again and found that the rbfg.exe that comes with Windows can do it. (That is, remote boot floppy generator)
rbfg + Avlgomgr_2006, all done (although RBF supports limited network cards, but basically sufficient)
Just seems like it won't boot when himem.sys is loaded
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xugaohui
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Ardence与himem.sys是有冲突的。服务端用bxp,虚拟硬盘安装dos系统,还有很多怪问题你没遇到.只有FreeDOS和DR-DOS自带的himem.sys加载时不会死机,当使用它们的himem.sys后兼容很差,xms驱动版本是2.0的,有时内存太大也认不到全部容量
下面是Argon MBA pxe.img在virtual pc 2004 sp1中的字符界面,这个pxe.img加载较慢,如果在virtual pc中使用,最好采用 www.emboot.com的MBA镜像,加载比较快。vmware自带pxe启动了。
Argon Managed PC Boot Agent (MBA) v4.40
(C) Copyright 2002-2004 Argon Technology Corporation
(C) Copyright 2000 3Com Corporation
All rights reserved.
Pre-boot eXecution Environment (PXE)
(C) Copyright 1999 Intel Corporation
All rights reserved.
CLIENT MAC ADDR: 00 03 FF 5A BF BF GUID: 00020003-0004-0005-0006-000700080009
DHCP.
试了一下windows自带的rbfg.exe,支持的网卡不多,同样加载很慢,好久才出现网卡的地址。它不能完全兼容pxe启动:
Microsoft Windows Remote Installation Boot Floppy
(C) Copyright 2001 Lanworks Technologies Co. a subsidiary of 3Com Corporation
All rights reserved.
SMC9332/DE500 (AA-XA)
Node: 0003FF5ABFBF
DHCP..
TFTP....PXE Menu Boot File v1.20
ERROR: Get BINL info failed!PXE Menu Boot File v1.20
ERROR: Preboot API not found!
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There is a conflict between Ardence and himem.sys. When using bxp on the server side and installing the DOS system on a virtual hard disk, there are many strange problems that you haven't encountered. Only the himem.sys that comes with FreeDOS and DR-DOS won't cause a crash when loaded. But after using their himem.sys, the compatibility is very poor. The version of the XMS driver is 2.0. Sometimes, if the memory is too large, it can't recognize the full capacity.
The following is the character interface of Argon MBA pxe.img in Virtual PC 2004 SP1. This pxe.img loads slowly. If you use it in Virtual PC, it is best to use the MBA image from www.emboot.com, which loads faster. VMware has its own PXE boot.
Argon Managed PC Boot Agent (MBA) v4.40
(C) Copyright 2002-2004 Argon Technology Corporation
(C) Copyright 2000 3Com Corporation
All rights reserved.
Pre-boot eXecution Environment (PXE)
(C) Copyright 1999 Intel Corporation
All rights reserved.
CLIENT MAC ADDR: 00 03 FF 5A BF BF GUID: 00020003-0004-0005-0006-000700080009
DHCP.
Tried Windows' built-in rbfg.exe. It supports few network cards and also loads very slowly. It takes a long time to show the network card's address. It can't be fully compatible with PXE boot:
Microsoft Windows Remote Installation Boot Floppy
(C) Copyright 2001 Lanworks Technologies Co. a subsidiary of 3Com Corporation
All rights reserved.
SMC9332/DE500 (AA-XA)
Node: 0003FF5ABFBF
DHCP..
TFTP....PXE Menu Boot File v1.20
ERROR: Get BINL info failed!PXE Menu Boot File v1.20
ERROR: Preboot API not found!
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weilong888
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『第 28 楼』:
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Ardence软件是不错,我做了一个无盘的win2000,操作起来和有盘的好象没有什么区别。
Ardence software is pretty good. I made a diskless Windows 2000, and it seems to be no different from a disk-based one in operation.
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目前我利用WINNT 4.0坐了個DOS網絡啟動盤.但是我的
啟動盤只支持一種網卡. 請問怎麼實現一張網絡啟動DOS軟盤
同時支持多種網卡.! 也就是我的批處理能自動識別加載那種DOS網卡
驅動(*.DOS).
THANKS.!
QQ:16750931
Currently, I used WINNT 4.0 to make a DOS network boot disk. But my boot disk only supports one kind of network card. How can I achieve that one network boot DOS floppy disk supports multiple network cards at the same time! That is, my batch processing can automatically identify and load that DOS network card driver (*.DOS).
THANKS.!
QQ:16750931
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xugaohui
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『第 30 楼』:
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用nt生成的dos网络启动盘是允许安装多个网卡的,但你只选择了一个网卡。只需要运行启动盘中的setup,然后选择 Change Network Configuration--->
Options:
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║ Change Settings ║
║ Remove ║
║ Add Adapter ║
║ Add Protocol ║
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║ Network configuration is correct. ║
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对话框中的 Add Adapter 添加其它网卡驱动
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DOS network boot disks generated with nt allow multiple network cards to be installed, but you only selected one. Just run setup from the boot disk, then select Change Network Configuration--->
Options:
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║ Change Settings ║
║ Remove ║
║ Add Adapter ║
║ Add Protocol ║
║ ║
║ Network configuration is correct. ║
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Click Add Adapter in the dialog box to add other network card drivers
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