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谁有操作硬盘 HPA 区的程序
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如标题,有高人有操作硬盘 HPA 区的程序吗?像联想等品牌机的系统都备份在硬盘的 HPA 区中,那个地方很保险呀,基本不怕破坏,有谁有这方面的程序和经验,希望不吝赐教。
As the title says, is there a program for operating the hard disk HPA area by any expert? The systems of brand computers like Lenovo are all backed up in the HPA area of the hard disk, which is very safe, basically not afraid of being damaged. Does anyone have such programs and experiences in this regard? Hope to be given unsparing instructions.
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到无忧论坛找老毛桃的帖子,有一个部署hpa的模板。
可拿来就用。
据说hpa兼容性不好,风险也大,不如改id为12的好用。
Go to Wuyou Forum to find the post about Lao Maotao. There is a template for deploying HPA. It can be used directly. It is said that HPA has poor compatibility and high risk. It is not as easy to use as modifying the ID to 12.
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请问楼上,操作 HPA 是不是一定会把硬盘的数据弄没,它的危险性到底有多大,id 为 12 是什么意思?
May I ask the person above, does operating HPA necessarily erase the data on the hard disk, and how dangerous is it? What does the ID 12 mean?
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能不能传一下呀,我没找到老毛桃的贴子呀。
Can you pass it on? I can't find the post about Lao Mao Tao.
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1,id12是一种现在使用较多的隐藏分区类型,安全性高于普通隐藏分区。
2,用hpa之前,建议多查资料,大概搞清楚怎么回事再用。
3,已经指了路,就不要太懒了。我不用hpa,自然也没有什么模板上传。
对懒人,一般人都比较反感,呵呵。
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1. id12 is a type of hidden partition that is currently used more frequently and has higher security than ordinary hidden partitions.
2. Before using hpa, it is recommended to check more materials and roughly figure out what is going on before using it.
3. The way has been shown, so don't be too lazy. I don't use hpa, so naturally there is no template to upload.
People generally dislike lazy people, heh heh.
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HPA的优点是直接作用到硬盘上,所以HPA里面的数据不怕DM、GHOST甚至是主板自带低格的破坏(解锁前甚至I/O指令也不可破坏),对于非加密的HPA,还支持多重HPA,也就是说创建HPA后,仍然可以再在剩余的硬盘容量上再创建多个HPA,具体层数看硬盘而定。
HPA的缺点是需要硬盘支持(并不是目前的主流硬盘都支持HPA),需要多了加锁和解锁挂接的步骤。
EISA等隐藏分区,保护数据的功能十分有限,禁不起分区软件、全盘克隆、低格软件的折腾。
The advantage of HPA is that it acts directly on the hard disk, so the data in HPA is not afraid of being damaged by DM, GHOST or even the low-level format provided by the motherboard (even I/O instructions cannot damage it before unlocking). For non-encrypted HPA, multiple HPAs are also supported, that is, after creating an HPA, multiple HPAs can still be created on the remaining hard disk capacity, and the number of layers depends on the hard disk.
The disadvantage of HPA is that it requires the support of the hard disk (not all current mainstream hard disks support HPA), and additional steps of locking and unlocking are required.
The functions of hidden partitions such as EISA to protect data are very limited and cannot withstand the tossing of partition software, full-disk cloning, and low-level format software.
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好像mhdd直接就可以删掉hpa分区。
所谓安全都是相对的。
具体采用哪种方式,就看各人的需要及喜好了。
It seems that mhdd can directly delete the hpa partition. The so - called safety is all relative. Which specific method to adopt depends on each person's needs and preferences.
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谢各位,我已找到相关信息,另:MHDD 的确可以删掉 HPA 分区,我目前只能干掉它,而不能驾驭它。
Thanks everyone, I have found the relevant information. Also: MHDD can indeed delete the HPA partition. I can only get rid of it right now, but can't master it.
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即便是MHDD也无法删除加了密码保护的HPA,如果非常关键的就可以使用假(别字,应为加)密码保护的HPA。
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Even MHDD cannot delete the HPA protected by a password. If it is very critical, you can use the HPA protected by a fake (typo, should be "added") password.
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假密码?!什么意思?老毛桃的那个 HPA 模板昨天试了几次,我把盘里面的东西都搞没了,也不做出来,按照提示,似乎很正确,没有提出错误,它说要关机,等到再开机的时候屏幕只是显示:
Loading... ,然后就不动了,等了好久也不行,然后我有 U 盘启动进 DOS 系统,打开 SPFDISK,将最后一个分区(说是 HPA 的分区)删掉了,建立成正常的 FAT32 格式的逻辑盘,用 FDISK /MBR 重写了主引导记录,重启,机子能够正常启动,看起来很正常,但是那个 HPA 区并没有建立起来,我的硬盘用 MHDD 看是支持 HPA 的呀,这个“清华同方的 HPA 工具”是在安装后,重启前建立 HPA 区,还是在重启后建立 HPA 区的呀?
我个人认为应该是在重启之前就建立了 HPA 区,但是结果没有建立起来,它的那个区很容易就被删除了,显然不是 HPA 区,并且再开机后死机,这是否就是这个软件的兼容性问题呢?
Fake password?! What does that mean? I tried the HPA template from Lao MaoTao several times yesterday. I erased all the things on the disk, and it didn't make it. According to the prompt, it seemed very correct, and no error was reported. It said to power off, and when I powered on again, the screen just showed "Loading...", and it didn't move for a long time. Then I used the USB flash drive to boot into the DOS system, opened SPFDISK, deleted the last partition (said to be the HPA partition), created it into a normal FAT32 format logical drive, rewrote the master boot record with FDISK /MBR, restarted, and the computer could boot normally, looking normal, but the HPA area was not established. My hard drive is supported by HPA as seen with MHDD. Does this "Tsinghua Tongfang's HPA tool" establish the HPA area before restart or after restart?
I personally think it should be established before restart, but the result was not established. That area was very easy to delete, obviously not the HPA area, and the computer froze after booting again. Is this the compatibility problem of this software?
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小小研究一下HPA分区,老是失败,烦
Just did a little research on HPA partitions, always failed, so annoying
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这个HPA,那有这么易搞的!要不厂家用花这么大功夫.
This HPA, how can it be so easy! Otherwise, why would manufacturers spend so much effort.
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其实也没有那么难,只要操作得当,不会损坏硬盘全部数据,只是试验用的一个分区的数据而已,这方面无忧研究的比较多!
Actually, it's not that difficult. As long as the operation is proper, it won't damage all the data on the hard drive, but just the data of a partition used for testing. In this regard, Wuyou has done a lot of research!
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