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给各位批处理爱好者的最后忠告
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如果大多数人都问些很简单的问题,那么久而久之,就没人回答了
lxmxn, ccwan, zh159, fujianabc, qzwqzw, pengfei, HUNRYBECKY, slore, qasa, htysm, baomaboy你们多保重了。一个时代结束了,偶闪了。这次是forever了
If most people ask very simple questions, then over time, no one will answer
lxmxn, ccwan, zh159, fujianabc, qzwqzw, pengfei, HUNRYBECKY, slore, qasa, htysm, baomaboy take care. An era has ended, I'm leaving. This time it's forever
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第100贴,最后的沙发
要铂金会员ID electroniXtar 的可以PM我,先到先得。
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Post 100, the last sofa
For those who want the platinum member ID electroniXtar, you can PM me. First come, first served.
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题不对文的也很多
大家保重!
PS:现在DX算老几啊,菜鸟才牛啊
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There are also many mismatched questions and answers.
Take care everyone!
PS: What is DX these days? Novices are the ones in the limelight.
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estar大侠多保重!!!!!
Dear Master estar, take care a lot!!!!!
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请不要做浮躁的人
1.不要看到别人的回复第一句话就说:给个代码吧!你应该想想为什么。当你自己想出来再参考别人的提示,你就知道自己和别人思路的差异。
2.初学者请不要看太多太多的书那会误人子弟的,先找本系统的学,很多人用了很久都是只对部分功能熟悉而已,不系统还是不够的。
3.看帮助,不要因为很难而自己是初学者所以就不看;帮助永远是最好的参考手册,虽然帮助的文字有时候很难看懂,总觉得不够直观。
4.不要被对象、属性、方法等词汇所迷惑;最根本的是先了解最基础知识。
5.不要放过任何一个看上去很简单的小问题--他们往往并不那么简单,或者可以引伸出很多知识点;不会举一反三你就永远学不会。
6.知道一点东西,并不能说明你会写脚本,脚本是需要经验积累的。
7.学脚本并不难,ASP、PHP等等也不过如此--难的是长期坚持实践和不遗余力的博览群书;
8.看再多的书是学不全脚本的,要多实践
9.把时髦的技术挂在嘴边,还不如把过时的技术记在心里;
10.学习脚本最好的方法之一就是多练习;11.在任何时刻都不要认为自己手中的书已经足够了;
12.看得懂的书,请仔细看;看不懂的书,请硬着头皮看;
13.别指望看第一遍书就能记住和掌握什么——请看第二遍、第三遍;
14.请把书上的例子亲手到电脑上实践,即使配套光盘中有源文件;
15.把在书中看到的有意义的例子扩充;并将其切实的运用到自己的工作中;
16.不要漏掉书中任何一个练习——请全部做完并记录下思路;
17.当你用脚本到一半却发现自己用的方法很拙劣时,请不要马上停手;请尽快将余下的部分粗略的完成以保证这个代码的完整性,然后分析自己的错误并重新编写和工作。
18.别心急,写脚本确实不容易;水平是在不断的实践中完善和发展的;
19.每学到一个脚本难点的时候,尝试着对别人讲解这个知识点并让他理解----你能讲清楚才说明你真的理解了;
20.记录下在和别人交流时发现的自己忽视或不理解的知识点;
21.保存好你做过的所有的源文件----那是你最好的积累之一;
22.对于网络,还是希望大家能多利用一下,很多问题不是非要到论坛来问的,首先你要学会自己找答案,比如google、百度都是很好的搜索引擎,你只要输入关键字就能找到很多相关资料,别老是等待别人给你希望,看的出你平时一定也很懒!
23,到一个论坛,你学会去看以前的帖子,不要什么都不看就发帖子问,也许你的问题早就有人问过了,你再问,别人已经不想再重复了,做为初学者,谁也不希望自己的帖子没人回的。
24,虽然不是打击初学者,但是这句话还是要说:论坛论坛,就是大家讨论的地方,如果你总期望有高手总无偿指点你,除非他是你亲戚!!讨论者,起码是水平相当的才有讨论的说法,如果水平真差距太远了,连基本操作都需要别人给解答,谁还跟你讨论呢。
浮躁的人容易问:我到底该学什么;----别问,学就对了;
浮躁的人容易问:学脚本有钱途吗;----建议你去抢银行;
浮躁的人容易说:我要中文版!我英文不行!----不行?学呀!
浮躁的人分两种:只观望而不学的人;只学而不坚持的人;
浮躁的人永远不是一个高手。
我要写一个XXX的批处理,自己却连搜索和自己写的尝试都没做过,就来求别人给代码.
希望这样的人会越来越少......
Please don't be an impatient person
1. Don't say "Give me a code" as soon as you see the first sentence of someone else's reply! You should think about why. When you figure it out yourself and then refer to others' hints, you will know the differences in thinking between yourself and others.
2. Beginners should not read too many books, as that will mislead them. First, find a systematic one to study. Many people have been using it for a long time but are only familiar with some functions. Not being systematic is not enough.
3. Read the help. Don't not read it just because it's difficult and you're a beginner; the help is always the best reference manual. Although the text in the help is sometimes difficult to understand and always feels not intuitive enough.
4. Don't be confused by terms like objects, properties, methods, etc.; the most fundamental thing is to first understand the most basic knowledge.
5. Don't let go of any seemingly simple small problem -- they are often not that simple, or can lead to many knowledge points; if you can't think by analogy, you will never learn.
6. Knowing something doesn't mean you can write scripts; scripts require experience accumulation.
7. Learning scripts is not difficult; ASP, PHP, etc. are no more than that -- the difficult part is long-term persistent practice and unremitting extensive reading;
8. Reading too many books won't make you learn all about scripts; you need to practice more
9. Hanging trendy technologies on your lips is not as good as remembering outdated technologies in your heart;
10. One of the best ways to learn scripts is to practice more; 11. Never think that the books you have are enough at any time;
12. For books you can understand, read them carefully; for books you can't understand, read them perseveringly;
13. Don't expect to remember and master something after reading it for the first time -- please read it the second, third time;
14. Please practice the examples in the book on the computer by yourself, even if there are source files in the supporting CD;
15. Expand the meaningful examples you see in the book; and apply them切实地 to your own work;
16. Don't miss any exercises in the book -- please do all of them and record the thinking;
17. When you find that the method you are using is very clumsy halfway through using scripts, please don't stop immediately; please complete the remaining part roughly as soon as possible to ensure the integrity of this code, then analyze your mistakes and rewrite and work again.
18. Don't be impatient, writing scripts is really not easy; the level is improved and developed in continuous practice;
19. When you learn a difficult point in scripts, try to explain this knowledge point to others and make them understand ---- you can only really understand it if you can explain it clearly;
20. Record the knowledge points that you ignored or didn't understand when communicating with others;
21. Keep all the source files you have done well ---- that is one of your best accumulations;
22. For the network, I still hope that everyone can make more use of it. Many problems don't have to be asked in the forum. First, you should learn to find answers by yourself. For example, Google and Baidu are very good search engines. You can find many relevant materials by entering keywords. Don't always wait for others to give you hope. It can be seen that you must be very lazy usually!
23. When you go to a forum, learn to look at previous posts. Don't post a thread without looking at anything. Maybe your question has already been asked by someone. If you ask again, others don't want to repeat it. As a beginner, no one wants their thread to have no replies.
24. Although it's not to discourage beginners, this sentence still needs to be said: Forum, forum, is a place for everyone to discuss. If you always expect a master to always give you free guidance, unless he is your relative! For discussion, at least those with comparable levels can have a discussion. If the levels are really too different, and even basic operations need others to answer, who would discuss with you.
Impatient people are easy to ask: What on earth should I learn; ---- Don't ask, just learn;
Impatient people are easy to ask: Is learning scripts profitable; ---- It is suggested that you go to rob a bank;
Impatient people are easy to say: I want the Chinese version! My English is not good! ---- Can't? Learn it!
There are two types of impatient people: those who only watch and don't learn; those who learn but don't persist;
Impatient people will never be a master.
I want to write a batch processing of XXX, but I haven't even done the search and my own attempts to write, and then come to ask others for the code.
I hope that such people will become fewer and fewer......
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楼主说的没错,很多初级的问题被反复提问,把好的帖子都淹没了
What the LZ said is correct. Many basic questions are asked repeatedly, drowning out good posts.
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好不容易学会了vbs,才好意思回论坛继续学习,结果,就看到est兄发这么严重的贴,嗨……心里不好受呀……
It's not easy to learn VBS, and then I have the nerve to come back to the forum to continue learning. As a result, I just saw Brother est post such a serious post. Hey... I feel bad.
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感觉有点对不起大家……
I feel a bit sorry for everyone...
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就是因为你在才来这个坛子的,尽管我这方面很菜……可惜了
Just because you are here, I came to this forum. Although I am very green in this area... It's a pity
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兄愚顿,还不明白楼主是什么意思?
Brother, I'm slow-witted and still don't understand what the original poster means?
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首先声明,我自己也是个菜鸟,但是我实在看不惯有些又菜素质又低的人,呼吁大家以后谁也不要回xlfj521此人的帖,此人素质极其低下,自己发个帖文不对题,我给他发了代码居然他还要发短信息问候我家人,截图我暂时就不贴上来了
参考原文
http://www.cn-dos.net/forum/viewthread.php?tid=29891
First of all, I declare that I am also a novice myself, but I really can't stand some people who are both bad and low-quality. I appeal to everyone that no one should reply to the posts of xlfj521 in the future. This person's quality is extremely low. He posted a thread that is not relevant to the topic. I sent him code, but he even sent me a private message to curse my family. I won't post the screenshot for now.
http://www.cn-dos.net/forum/viewthread.php?tid=29891
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