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由于要用方正。所以还要用久远的WINDOWS3.2。近来看到“新DOS时代”的DOS7.1可支持FAT32及大硬盘和WINDOWS3。2又兼容。所以一并装上。我的C:是FAT32、10G。可是我装好后DOS7.1,可用。但WINDOWS3.2不能用啊。好象说什么文件系统不对,太大。查了一下:好象WINDOWS3.2不能用FAT32的格式。这是怎么回事啊。不是说有了DOS7.1的支持WINDOWS3.2可以用FAT32及大硬盘吗?有高手能解释一下 吗?
Since I need to use Fangzheng, I still have to use the old Windows 3.2. Recently, I saw that "New DOS Era" DOS 7.1 can support FAT32 and large hard drives and is compatible with Windows 3.2, so I installed both together. My C: is FAT32, 10G. But after I installed DOS 7.1, it worked, but Windows 3.2 didn't work. It seemed to say something about the file system being incorrect and too large. I checked and it seemed that Windows 3.2 can't use the FAT32 format. What's going on here? Isn't it said that with the support of DOS 7.1, Windows 3.2 can use FAT32 and large hard drives? Can an expert explain it?
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Win3.2在MS-DOS 7.1下当然是可以支持FAT32格式的,这点没有什么可说的,反正我们都已正常使用了很长时间了。请问你看到什么提示(最好具体点)?
Win3.2 can certainly support the FAT32 format under MS-DOS 7.1, and there's nothing much to say about that. Anyway, we've been using it normally for a long time. What prompt did you see? Please be specific if possible.
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谢谢站长亲身回答。提示?我要抄一下。下次给你。不过,下午我用DOS622装了一下WINDOWS3.2。可是可以,不过看不到光驱的盘符。请问这是我哪里没装好啊?
注:WINDOWS3.2及DOS622下载于DOS之家。
还有一个小请求:因DOS7.1的安装过程有很多的选项及安装窗口。都是E文的。都弄不太明白。安装过程有感吃力。能不能写个教程解释一下。不胜感激!
你说可以支持FAT32。 是不是我的C:盘分的太大了????
盼复!!!!!!!!
Thanks to the webmaster for answering in person. Tips? I need to copy them. I'll give it to you next time. However, this afternoon I installed WINDOWS 3.2 with DOS 622. It worked, but I can't see the drive letter of the CD-ROM. What did I not install correctly here?
Note: WINDOWS 3.2 and DOS 622 were downloaded from DOS Home.
There is also a small request: The installation process of DOS 7.1 has many options and installation windows. They are all in English. I can't understand them very well. I find the installation process quite difficult. Can you write a tutorial to explain it? I'm very grateful!
You said it can support FAT32. Is my C: drive partition too large???
Looking forward to your reply!!!!!
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对了,我下载的是MSDOS71F这个压缩文件。解开后。我用WINIMAGE6.0解开其中的DOS71_1和DOS71_2这两个文件到一个目录下。但没有把其中的DI、HD-COPY、MAKEBOOT这三个文件也一并复制过去,会不会有问题呢?DI、MAKEBOOT这两个文件是什么文件啊?期待回复!!谢谢!!
By the way, I downloaded the MSDOS71F compressed file. After extracting it, I used WINIMAGE6.0 to extract the two files DOS71_1 and DOS71_2 from it into a directory. But I didn't copy the three files DI, HD-COPY, and MAKEBOOT over there together. Will there be any problems? What are the files DI and MAKEBOOT? Looking forward to your reply!! Thanks!!
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你采取的复制的方法安装的dos71?
di等文件只是img镜像解压文件和dos71完整系统没关系的..
请用dos71完整安装光盘安装dos71
Did you use the copy method to install DOS 7.1? The di and other files are just the extracted files of the img image and have nothing to do with the complete DOS 7.1 system.. Please install DOS 7.1 using the complete DOS 7.1 installation CD.
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他的安装方法确实有些错误,其实安装方法里面的README.TXT等说明文件中都有介绍的,而不应像上面那样直接复制。
MS-DOS 7.10是支持很大的大硬盘和FAT32分区的,比如20GB、200GB等的FAT32分区都没有什么问题。千万不要在大硬盘上使用旧版本的DOS,否则除不支持FAT32外,还很可能损坏里面的长文件名和文件结构等。“DOS之家”关于dos622的下载页面中也有警告。
请将提示信息帖上来,以便确定原因。但正常情况下使用是没有任何问题的。更详细信息请见:
http://newdos.yginfo.net/dosart3.htm
His installation method does have some errors. Actually, the instruction files like README.TXT in the installation method all have introductions, and it should not be directly copied like above.
MS-DOS 7.10 supports very large hard disks and FAT32 partitions. For example, FAT32 partitions of 20GB, 200GB, etc. have no problems. Never use an old version of DOS on a large hard disk; otherwise, in addition to not supporting FAT32, it is very likely to damage the long filenames and file structures inside. There are also warnings on the download page of dos622 on "DOS Home".
Please post the prompt information to determine the reason. But normally there are no problems when using it. For more detailed information, please see:
http://newdos.yginfo.net/dosart3.htm
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我是用WINIMAGE6.0里面的“展开”命令->“按路径名展开”来解开DOS71_1及DOS71_2这两个文件的。不是用复制来拷贝出来里面的文件。你们说我的上述方法是否正确呢?烦解答一下!谢谢
I used the "Extract" command -> "Extract by pathname" in WINIMAGE 6.0 to extract the two files DOS71_1 and DOS71_2. I didn't use copying to extract the files inside. You guys, is the above method I mentioned correct? Please answer! Thanks
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這屬於可行的辦法,但應保證系統啟動到比較純的DOS下才能輸入SETUP來開始安裝。
關鍵在於啟動Win3.2時的提示信息是什麼呢?
This is a feasible method, but it should be ensured that the system boots to a relatively pure DOS before you can enter SETUP to start the installation. The key is what is the prompt message when starting Win3.2?
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我有WIN98与DOS6.22两个启动盘可启动机器。我要用哪个才能到比较纯的DOS下呢?
昨天我又在我的一台古老的机子(硬盘1.2G,内存16),别见笑!上用FAT16与FAT32两种格式都试了一下装DOS7.1与WIN3.2。可是都不行的。都是DOS7.1可以用,还用的很好。可是一到我打“WIN”命令想启动WIN3.2时:出现一下WIN3.2的启动画面,就黑屏。按什么键都没动静。可我用DOS6.22与WIN3.2装时。就可以了。
DOS7.1是不错。关键它能支持FAT32和大硬盘。这是我最想要的。单个用它哪是没什么说得。可我一装上WIN3.2就不行了。难到我用WIN3.2时,一定还用回DOS6.22吗?
我的DOS7.1啊!!!!!
帮我!!!!!!!!!!
I have two boot disks, WIN98 and DOS6.22, to boot the machine. Which one should I use to get to a relatively pure DOS?
Yesterday I also tried installing DOS7.1 and WIN3.2 in two formats, FAT16 and FAT32, on my old machine (1.2G hard disk, 16MB memory, don't laugh!). But none of them worked. Only DOS7.1 can be used and it works very well. But when I type the "WIN" command to start WIN3.2: the startup screen of WIN3.2 appears, then it turns black. Pressing any key doesn't work. But when I installed with DOS6.22 and WIN3.2, it was okay.
DOS7.1 is good. The key is that it can support FAT32 and large hard disks. That's what I most want. There's nothing to say about using it alone. But as soon as I install WIN3.2, it doesn't work. Does it mean that when I use WIN3.2, I must go back to DOS6.22?
Oh my DOS7.1!!!!!
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要得到真正的純DOS,為什麼不使用最正確的安裝方法,即將DOS71_1和DOS71_2寫入軟盤,然後用第一張盤直接啟動來直接安裝呢?也就是說,第一張安裝盤本身就是DOS啟動盤+安裝程序,而不是用別的啟動盤來啟動。你上面用的方法是“可行”的,但不是最好的方法。
關於啟動Win3.2的問題,我覺得非常奇怪,是不是你在安裝時中的一些選項的選擇有誤或是其它類似原因?請試著修改CONFIG.SYS和AUTOEXEC.BAT文件看看(比如看看是否加載了EMM386等)。我們在MS-DOS 7.10下啟動和運行Win3.2時從來就很正常的,所以應該是你的安裝方法有誤或是其它類似原因,而絕不是本身有問題。
To get a truly pure DOS, why not use the most correct installation method, which is to write DOS71_1 and DOS71_2 to a floppy disk, and then boot directly with the first disk to install directly? That is, the first installation disk itself is a DOS boot disk + installation program, not using another boot disk to boot. The method you used above is "feasible" but not the best method.
Regarding the problem of booting Win3.2, I find it very strange. Is there some wrong choice of options during your installation or other similar reasons? Try to modify the CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files (for example, see if EMM386 is loaded, etc.). We have always had no problem booting and running Win3.2 under MS-DOS 7.10, so it should be that your installation method is wrong or other similar reasons, not that it itself has a problem.
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谢谢站长不厌其烦的解答!
刚才我用站长讲的方法写入软盘后,安装DOS7.1。装好后。接着安装WIN3.2。装好,从启。
在C:\下打“WIN”命令。不行!提示如下:
ERROR:pageovercommit value in SYSTEM.INI is too large.
Decrease the value, or if not present, add a setting that is less than 4.
注:我装DOS7.1时,没改选项。一路按回车。就是在选安装模式时。去掉了“install add-ons"
在装WIN3.2时,当装到打印机,按取消。装到搜索应用程序时(说安装程序要知道应用程序的名字叫我选),有两个选项一个是MS-DOS EDIT和以上都不是两个。我也不知道,就选以上都不是。装好后就出现以上提示>
站长这是什么原因呢?我哪里出错了。怎样解决呢?谢谢!
Thanks to the webmaster for answering patiently!
Just now I used the method the webmaster told to write to the floppy disk and installed DOS 7.1. After installation, I then installed WIN 3.2. After installation, restart.
Typing "WIN" command under C:\. It doesn't work! The prompt is as follows:
ERROR: pageovercommit value in SYSTEM.INI is too large.
Decrease the value, or if not present, add a setting that is less than 4.
Note: When I installed DOS 7.1, I didn't change the options. Just pressed Enter all the way. That is, when selecting the installation mode. Removed "install add-ons"
When installing WIN 3.2, when installing the printer, pressed Cancel. When installing the search application (said the installer needs to know the name of the application and asked me to choose), there are two options, one is MS-DOS EDIT and neither of the above. I didn't know, so I chose neither of the above. After installation, the above prompt appeared >
Webmaster, what is the reason for this? Where did I make a mistake. How to solve it? Thanks!
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"ERROR:pageovercommit value in SYSTEM.INI is too large.
Decrease the value, or if not present, add a setting that is less than 4."
终于给出真正的错误信息了,那一切就非常好办了。
我曾经写过一篇文章介绍此问题的原因和解决方法。是用英文写的,地址是:http://newdos.yginfo.net/msdos71/doskbd4.htm
现在我用中文来解释一遍吧,此错误信息只会在系统中的内存大于256MB时才会出现,是因为Win3.x的默认设置对大内存的支持不好而造成的。解决方法很简单,修改Win3.x的默认设置即可,具体是:
在SYSTEM.INI中,在项下加入一行PageOverCommit=x,其中x值和您的物理内存的大小的积应不大于1024MB。比如您有512MB内存,那么可以将x设为2或1或0,如:
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PageOverCommit=2
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此时512MB*2=1024MB,没有超过1024MB,就应该可以了。
之所以在dos710下运行Win3.2时才会出现此信息而不是在dos622下,是因为MS-DOS 7.10全面支持大内存。也就是说,系统的所有物理内存这时都将被dos710和win3.2所识别,不管有多大!而dos622则最大支持64MB内存,所以即使系统物理内存远超过256MB,dos622和win3.2最多也只能看到64MB内存,所以才不会出现此信息(但如果您将x值设得很大,比如20,以至于64MB*20的值超过1024MB时也同样会出现此信息的)。可见,支持大内存也是MS-DOS 7.10的一个新功能,就像全面支持FAT32和大硬盘那样。如果Win3.x启动时出现此信息并非您出错(当然,前面则是安装方法有误),而是因为Win3.2本身比较旧,其默认设置对256MB以上的大内存的支持不好造成的,所以调整其默认设置即可。
"ERROR:pageovercommit value in SYSTEM.INI is too large.
Decrease the value, or if not present, add a setting that is less than 4."
Finally, the real error message is given, and then everything becomes very easy.
I once wrote an article introducing the cause and solution of this problem. It was written in English, and the address is: http://newdos.yginfo.net/msdos71/doskbd4.htm
Now I will explain it in Chinese. This error message will only appear when the memory in the system is larger than 256MB. It is because the default settings of Win3.x are not good at supporting large memory. The solution is very simple. You can modify the default settings of Win3.x. Specifically:
In SYSTEM.INI, under the section, add a line PageOverCommit=x, where the product of the value of x and your physical memory size should not be greater than 1024MB. For example, if you have 512MB memory, then you can set x to 2 or 1 or 0, such as:
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PageOverCommit=2
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At this time, 512MB * 2 = 1024MB, which does not exceed 1024MB, so it should be okay.
The reason why this message appears when running Win3.2 under dos710 instead of under dos622 is that MS-DOS 7.10 fully supports large memory. That is to say, all the physical memory of the system will be recognized by dos710 and win3.2 at this time, no matter how large it is! However, dos622 supports a maximum of 64MB memory. So even if the physical memory of the system is far larger than 256MB, dos622 and win3.2 can only see up to 64MB memory at most, so this message will not appear (but if you set the x value very large, such as 20, so that the value of 64MB * 20 exceeds 1024MB, this message will also appear). It can be seen that supporting large memory is also a new function of MS-DOS 7.10, just like fully supporting FAT32 and large hard drives. If this message appears when Win3.x starts, it is not your mistake (of course, the previous installation method was wrong), but because Win3.2 itself is relatively old, and its default settings are not good at supporting large memory above 256MB. So you can adjust its default settings.
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非常感谢站长!我的问题以经解决了。可以在FAT32下装DOS7.1及WINDOWS3.2了。
太好了。怎么没早点发现这个DOS7.1呢。功能比6.22强多了。
谢谢!这里有个小问题?有些地方说“WINDOWS3.11”这个和WINDOWS3.2是不是一个版本啊?还是不同的版本。能说一下吗?
再次感谢!我会关注本站的。这里能学到不少东西!
Thank you very much, webmaster! My problem has been solved. I can install DOS 7.1 and Windows 3.2 under FAT32. That's great. Why didn't I find this DOS 7.1 earlier? Its functions are much stronger than those of 6.22. Thanks! Here's a small question? Some places say "WINDOWS 3.11". Is this the same version as Windows 3.2 or different versions? Can you explain it? Once again, thank you! I will pay attention to this site. I can learn a lot here!
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Win3.11和Win3.2自然不是一个版本。3.11只有英文版,而3.2只有中文版。3.2中文版是基于3.1(而不是3.11)英文版的。
Win3.11 and Win3.2 are certainly not the same version. Win3.11 is only available in English, while Win3.2 is only available in Chinese. The Chinese version of Win3.2 is based on the English version of Win3.1 (not Win3.11).
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真不知为什么会有win3.11,它和wfw3.11的默认启动声音是一样的,其它的不相干。
而且启动时的logo也是3.1,只有在program manager里看才是3.11.
win3.2的启动声音和win3.1的启动声音一样。
I really don't know why there is win3.11. Its default boot sound is the same as wfw3.11, and the others are irrelevant.
And the boot logo is also 3.1. Only when you look in the program manager is it 3.11.
The boot sound of win3.2 is the same as that of win3.1.
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