中国DOS联盟

Dear大侠, take care too!
I remember that you have made quite a few contributions to the China DOS Union. Maybe like namejm, you are temporarily leaving the union to focus on work. Come back and give some pointers when you have time.


Last edited by qasa on 2007-4-21 at 09:26 PM ]

请不要做浮躁的人







1.不要看到别人的回复第一句话就说：给个代码吧！你应该想想为什么。当你自己想出来再参考别人的提示，你就知道自己和别人思路的差异。

2.初学者请不要看太多太多的书那会误人子弟的，先找本系统的学，很多人用了很久都是只对部分功能熟悉而已，不系统还是不够的。

3.看帮助,不要因为很难而自己是初学者所以就不看；帮助永远是最好的参考手册，虽然帮助的文字有时候很难看懂，总觉得不够直观。

4.不要被对象、属性、方法等词汇所迷惑；最根本的是先了解最基础知识。

5.不要放过任何一个看上去很简单的小问题--他们往往并不那么简单，或者可以引伸出很多知识点；不会举一反三你就永远学不会。

6.知道一点东西，并不能说明你会写脚本，脚本是需要经验积累的。

7.学脚本并不难，ASP、PHP等等也不过如此--难的是长期坚持实践和不遗余力的博览群书；

8.看再多的书是学不全脚本的，要多实践

9.把时髦的技术挂在嘴边，还不如把过时的技术记在心里；

10.学习脚本最好的方法之一就是多练习；11.在任何时刻都不要认为自己手中的书已经足够了；

12.看得懂的书，请仔细看；看不懂的书，请硬着头皮看；

13.别指望看第一遍书就能记住和掌握什么——请看第二遍、第三遍；

14.请把书上的例子亲手到电脑上实践，即使配套光盘中有源文件；

15.把在书中看到的有意义的例子扩充；并将其切实的运用到自己的工作中；

16.不要漏掉书中任何一个练习——请全部做完并记录下思路；

17.当你用脚本到一半却发现自己用的方法很拙劣时，请不要马上停手；请尽快将余下的部分粗略的完成以保证这个代码的完整性，然后分析自己的错误并重新编写和工作。

18.别心急，写脚本确实不容易；水平是在不断的实践中完善和发展的；

19.每学到一个脚本难点的时候，尝试着对别人讲解这个知识点并让他理解----你能讲清楚才说明你真的理解了；

20.记录下在和别人交流时发现的自己忽视或不理解的知识点；

21.保存好你做过的所有的源文件----那是你最好的积累之一；

22.对于网络，还是希望大家能多利用一下，很多问题不是非要到论坛来问的，首先你要学会自己找答案，比如google、百度都是很好的搜索引擎，你只要输入关键字就能找到很多相关资料，别老是等待别人给你希望，看的出你平时一定也很懒！



23，到一个论坛，你学会去看以前的帖子，不要什么都不看就发帖子问，也许你的问题早就有人问过了，你再问，别人已经不想再重复了，做为初学者，谁也不希望自己的帖子没人回的。

24，虽然不是打击初学者，但是这句话还是要说：论坛论坛，就是大家讨论的地方，如果你总期望有高手总无偿指点你，除非他是你亲戚！！讨论者，起码是水平相当的才有讨论的说法，如果水平真差距太远了，连基本操作都需要别人给解答，谁还跟你讨论呢。





浮躁的人容易问：我到底该学什么；----别问，学就对了；

浮躁的人容易问：学脚本有钱途吗；----建议你去抢银行；

浮躁的人容易说：我要中文版！我英文不行！----不行？学呀！

浮躁的人分两种：只观望而不学的人；只学而不坚持的人；

浮躁的人永远不是一个高手。

I don't know why recently there has been a rush of new users. Although it should be a good thing, it hasn't given people any good feelings. The entire forum is a mess. It is suggested that the moderator pin the post of 7th floor 20080610 as a must-read for new users:

Please don't be a impatient person



1. Don't say "Give me a code" as soon as you see the first sentence of someone else's reply. You should think about why. When you figure it out yourself and then refer to others' hints, you will know the differences in thinking between yourself and others.

2. Beginners should not read too many books, as that will mislead. First, find a systematic one to study. Many people have been using it for a long time but only are familiar with part of the functions. It's not enough without a system.

3. Read the help. Don't not read it just because it's difficult and you are a beginner; the help is always the best reference manual. Although the text in the help is sometimes hard to understand and always feels not intuitive enough.

4. Don't be confused by terms like objects, properties, methods, etc.; the most fundamental thing is to first understand the most basic knowledge.

5. Don't let go of any seemingly simple small problem -- they are often not that simple, or can derive many knowledge points; if you can't think of other applications, you will never learn.

6. Knowing a little thing doesn't mean you can write scripts; scripts need experience accumulation.

7. Learning scripts is not difficult; ASP, PHP, etc. are also just so-so -- what's difficult is long-term persistent practice and unremitting extensive reading;

8. Reading too many books can't learn all about scripts; you need to practice more

9. It's better to remember outdated technologies in your heart than to keep fashionable technologies on your lips;

10. One of the best ways to learn scripts is to practice more; 11. At any time, don't think that the books you have are enough;

12. For books you can understand, read them carefully; for books you can't understand, read them with perseverance;

13. Don't expect to remember and master anything after reading the book for the first time -- please read it the second time, the third time;

14. Please practice the examples in the book on the computer by yourself, even if there are source files in the supporting CD;

15. Expand the meaningful examples you see in the book; and apply them practically to your own work;

16. Don't miss any exercises in the book -- please do all of them and record the ideas;

17. When you find that the method you are using is very clumsy halfway through using scripts, please don't stop immediately; please complete the remaining part roughly as soon as possible to ensure the integrity of this code, then analyze your mistakes and rewrite and work again.

18. Don't be impatient, writing scripts is really not easy; level is improved and developed in continuous practice;

19. When you learn a difficult point of scripts, try to explain this knowledge point to others and let them understand ---- you can explain it clearly to show that you really understand it;

20. Record the knowledge points that you ignored or didn't understand found in communication with others;

21. Keep all the source files you have done well ---- that's one of your best accumulations;

22. For the network, I still hope that everyone can make more use of it. Many problems don't have to be asked in the forum. First, you should learn to find answers by yourself. For example, Google, Baidu are very good search engines. You just need to enter keywords to find many relevant materials. Don't always wait for others to give you hope. It can be seen that you must be very lazy usually!



23. When you come to a forum, learn to look at previous posts. Don't post a thread without looking at anything. Maybe your question has been asked by someone else. If you ask again, others don't want to repeat it. As a beginner, no one wants their thread to have no replies.

24. Although it's not to discourage beginners, but this sentence still has to be said: Forum, forum, is a place for everyone to discuss. If you always expect experts to give you free guidance, unless he is your relative!! For discussion, at least those with similar levels can have a discussion. If the levels are too different, even basic operations need others to answer, who would discuss with you.





Impatient people are easy to ask: What on earth should I learn; ---- Don't ask, just learn;

Impatient people are easy to ask: Is learning scripts profitable; ---- It is suggested that you go to rob a bank;

Impatient people are easy to say: I want the Chinese version! My English is not good! ---- Can't? Learn it!

There are two kinds of impatient people: those who only watch and don't learn; those who learn but don't persist;

Impatient people will never be experts.

Last edited by baomaboy on 2007-4-22 at 11:14 AM ]

Although I haven't posted for a while, I still care about the forum. I didn't expect it has developed to this extent.
This period is different from the previous ones of replacement because there are still not many people in the forum whose levels can reach est, 9527, 3742668, namejm, lxmxn, vkill, and these people have already posted very little or even stopped posting. The batch processing room is really in a situation of a lack of successors now.

Oh... The experts are leaving one by one. There are still many things I don't understand.

Although I am quite inexperienced, I will actively help others

Long time no see.

What's going on? Has this place changed?

I've also seen many people ask questions unrelated to batch.

Some just re-post casually, really......

But don't be too sad, old-timers. The situation can be changed.

Rules can be revised!

Rectify "writing style", "purify" elements.

Hehe, I might have overstated it.

Everyone, please forgive me!

Indeed a bit sad!

Originally posted by ccwan at 2007-4-22 09:30:
Although I haven't posted for a while, I still care about the forum. I didn't expect it has developed to this extent.
This period is different from the previous replacement of the old and the new, because there are still few water ... in the current forum

I feel the same way

Also, I haven't come to take a look for a long time
The work in the research institute is too busy!

Hey.....

I also think so. Try to solve it by yourself as much as possible if you can solve it on your own.

It is suggested that the forum change its system. For example, new members should be able to post after staying in this forum for a period of time, so that new users can first read the old posts (many technical forums are like this), thereby reducing repeated posts. To prevent excessive watermarking for points, there should not be a direct relationship between points and the number of posts, and so on...

Last edited by axi on 2007-4-23 at 06:20 PM ]

I will draw on more in the future
Thanks a lot to the landlord

Originally posted by axi at 2007-4-24 06:48:
It is suggested that the forum change the system, for example, new members need to stay in this forum for a period of time before they can post, so that new users can first read the old posts (many technical forums are like this), thereby reducing repeated posts, for...

Support this, modern people are too lazy, pick something ready-made, and even need to be fed to the mouth

I agree. The traditional Chinese concept is that relying on one's own efforts can bring abundant supplies and a good life!

Just highlight good questions. Ignore bad ones. Why bother~~~~~~~~~~~~