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ROM-DOS7.1试用印象
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ROM-DOS7.1试用印象
ROM-DOS7.1显然是按着尽可能兼容同版本号的MS-DOS7.1(即WIN95OS2/WIN98/WIN98SE的DOS)设计的,同样支持FAT32等,因此与MSDOS7.1有着非常良好的兼容性。不仅外部命令,连内存管理程序等都可互相换用。UCDOS等第三方软件在ROM-DOS上使用一切正常。有一次我试过从软盘启动了ROM-DOS7.1后,居然可以试着启动WIN98SE的安装程序开始安装,当然并没有继续进行下去。
我拿到的ROM-DOS7.1来自Wengier的网站,只有一张启动软盘镜像。上面除几个核心文件外,只有himem.sys和ATTRIB,SYS等三几个外部命令。幸好ROM-DOS7.1可以直接使用MSDOS7.1的大多数外部命令,所以缺少的外部命令可以向WIN98“借”用。要知道MSDOS是最不喜欢与人兼容的,它的外部命令最爱闹脾气,经常给你一句“不正确的DOS版本”就罢工不干。
ROM-DOS7.1的核心文件采用的是IBM版权所有的PCDOS命名方式,估计和IBM有一定的合作关系,其高度兼容性或与此有关。
ROM-DOS7.1的启动比MS-DOS快,核心文件也比MS-DOS要少得多。做成工具软盘有比较大的优势。不过WIN98启动盘中负责查找虚拟盘的FINDRAMD.EXE在ROM-DOS中却死活不干,一定程度上又抵消了ROM-DOS的优势。
我在google中查过ROM-DOS,发现它在国内也有应用,它真的被做在ROM中,应用于工业计算机上。在要求稳定和高效的工业计算机上,不稳定的WINDOWS难有立足之地,正是DOS可以避开WINDOWS的压迫而大展拳脚的领地。
Impressions of Trying ROM-DOS 7.1
ROM-DOS 7.1 is obviously designed to be as compatible as possible with the same version number of MS-DOS 7.1 (that is, the DOS of WIN95OS2/WIN98/WIN98SE). It also supports FAT32, etc., so it has very good compatibility with MSDOS 7.1. Not only external commands, but also memory management programs, etc., can be used interchangeably. Third-party software such as UCDOS works normally on ROM-DOS. Once I tried to boot ROM-DOS 7.1 from a floppy disk and then tried to start the installation program of WIN98SE to start the installation, of course, it didn't continue.
The ROM-DOS 7.1 I got is from Wengier's website, and there is only a boot floppy disk image. In addition to a few core files, there are only a few external commands such as himem.sys and ATTRIB,SYS. Fortunately, ROM-DOS 7.1 can directly use most of the external commands of MSDOS 7.1, so the missing external commands can be "borrowed" from WIN98. You know that MSDOS is the least friendly to compatibility, and its external commands are most likely to act up, often giving you a "Incorrect DOS version" and refusing to work.
The core files of ROM-DOS 7.1 adopt the PCDOS naming method copyrighted by IBM. It is estimated that there is a certain cooperation relationship with IBM, and its high compatibility may be related to this.
The startup of ROM-DOS 7.1 is faster than that of MS-DOS, and the core files are also much less than those of MS-DOS. There is a relatively large advantage in making a tool floppy disk. However, FINDRAMD.EXE in the WIN98 startup disk that is responsible for finding the virtual disk just won't work in ROM-DOS, which to a certain extent offsets the advantage of ROM-DOS.
I searched for ROM-DOS on google and found that it is also used in China. It is really made in ROM and applied to industrial computers. On industrial computers that require stability and efficiency, the unstable WINDOWS has little room to stand, and it is exactly the territory where DOS can avoid the oppression of WINDOWS and make a great show.
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Wengier
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『第 2 楼』:
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其实那个FINDRAMD也没有什么用,可用更好的方法查询内存盘符,如XSET等。
In fact, that FINDRAMD is not useful either. A better way to query memory drives, such as XSET, can be used.
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Wengier - 新DOS时代
欢迎大家来到我的“新DOS时代”网站,里面有各类DOS软件和资料,地址:
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『第 3 楼』:
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而且我发现,那个FINDRAMD的所谓“查找虚拟盘”的功能,其实并非真正去查找内存虚拟盘,而是从A盘开始,直到Z盘,看哪个驱动器的卷标为“MS-RAMDRIVE”,如果是的话则完成查找。因此,假如内存盘的卷标不是“MS-RAMDRIVE”,FINDRAMD就找不到;若其它磁盘(如硬盘的一个驱动器)的卷标为“MS-RAMDRIVE”的话,那它也会把它当作内存盘。所以FINDRAMD的结果并不准确。
Moreover, I found that the so-called "Find Virtual Disk" function of FINDRAMD does not actually go to find the memory virtual disk, but starts from drive A and goes until drive Z, checking which drive has the volume label "MS-RAMDRIVE", and if so, the search is completed. Therefore, if the volume label of the memory disk is not "MS-RAMDRIVE", FINDRAMD cannot find it; if the volume label of other disks (such as a drive of the hard disk) is "MS-RAMDRIVE", it will also treat it as a memory disk. So the result of FINDRAMD is not accurate.
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Wengier - 新DOS时代
欢迎大家来到我的“新DOS时代”网站,里面有各类DOS软件和资料,地址:
http://wendos.mycool.net/
E-Mail & MSN: wengierwu AT hotmail.com (最近比较忙,有事请联系DOSroot和雨露,谢谢!)
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『第 4 楼』:
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是么,我正为这件事头痛呢,那我找找XSET
Yeah, I'm really worried about this matter. Then I'll look for XSET.
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『第 5 楼』:
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ROM-DOS7.1在哪儿有下载的?
Where can I download ROM-DOS7.1?
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Wengier
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『第 6 楼』:
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ROM-DOS启动盘在这儿下载:
http://newdos.yginfo.net/dosware/rdos71bd.zip
The ROM-DOS boot disk here:
http://newdos.yginfo.net/dosware/rdos71bd.zip
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Wengier - 新DOS时代
欢迎大家来到我的“新DOS时代”网站,里面有各类DOS软件和资料,地址:
http://wendos.mycool.net/
E-Mail & MSN: wengierwu AT hotmail.com (最近比较忙,有事请联系DOSroot和雨露,谢谢!)
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『第 7 楼』:
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冒昧的问一下各位用什么系统上网?不会是DOS吧?
Dare you guys using any system to go online? Could it be DOS?
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『第 8 楼』:
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另外请站长Wengier帮一下忙,帖子在
http://www2.zzu.edu.cn/ie/newdos/dispbbs.asp?boardID=3&ID=668
Also please ask the webmaster Wengier for help. The post is at http://www2.zzu.edu.cn/ie/newdos/dispbbs.asp?boardID=3&ID=668
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『第 9 楼』:
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XSET在哪呀!有下吗???
哪位知道请告之!!
谢谢!
Where is XSET? Is there a download? Please let me know if anyone knows! Thank you!
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Wengier
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『第 10 楼』:
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用baobolz提到的FINDRAMD命令就可以了,现已加入到ROM-DOS启动盘中。
Just use the FINDRAMD command mentioned by baobolz, and it has now been added to the ROM-DOS boot disk.
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Wengier - 新DOS时代
欢迎大家来到我的“新DOS时代”网站,里面有各类DOS软件和资料,地址:
http://wendos.mycool.net/
E-Mail & MSN: wengierwu AT hotmail.com (最近比较忙,有事请联系DOSroot和雨露,谢谢!)
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MYS
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『第 11 楼』:
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我还发现拿WIN98的FORMAT在ROM-DOS下可以用,但不能加/S参数,只有FORMAT后用SYS传系统。
而且确实ROM-DOS不如MS-DOS稳定,我今天拿ROM-DOS系统盘(光盘启动)在一台计算机上启动时挂住了,只好用回MS-DOS。
I also found that the FORMAT from WIN98 can be used under ROM-DOS, but the /S parameter cannot be added. Only after FORMAT, use SYS to transfer the system.
And indeed, ROM-DOS is not as stable as MS-DOS. Today, I hung up when I booted a computer with the ROM-DOS system disk (booted from the CD), so I had to go back to MS-DOS.
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Wengier
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『第 12 楼』:
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启动时怎么个“挂住”法?ROM-DOS也许在某些坏硬盘上不如MS-DOS稳定,但在硬盘“逻辑锁”问题上却绝对比MS-DOS稳定。
How does it "hang" during startup? ROM-DOS may not be as stable as MS-DOS on some bad hard drives, but it is definitely more stable than MS-DOS in terms of the "logical lock" problem of the hard drive.
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Wengier - 新DOS时代
欢迎大家来到我的“新DOS时代”网站,里面有各类DOS软件和资料,地址:
http://wendos.mycool.net/
E-Mail & MSN: wengierwu AT hotmail.com (最近比较忙,有事请联系DOSroot和雨露,谢谢!)
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MYS
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『第 13 楼』:
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挂住就是启动到一半(加载虚拟盘后)死机了,当然可能是那机子的硬件与其他软件的冲突问题。
那台机硬盘是好的,只是不知道声卡的芯片型号,想启动到DOS中用HWINFO。
It hangs when booting halfway (after loading the virtual disk), of course, it may be a conflict problem between the hardware of that computer and other software. The hard disk of that computer is fine, but I don't know the chip model of the sound card. I want to boot into DOS and use HWINFO.
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www.brsbox.com/ssmys
www.brsbox.com/ccdos
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Wengier
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『第 14 楼』:
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那不是ROM-DOS本身的问题,试试用XMSDSK,应该不会有问题的。
That's not a problem with ROM-DOS itself. Try using XMSDSK, it should be fine.
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Wengier - 新DOS时代
欢迎大家来到我的“新DOS时代”网站,里面有各类DOS软件和资料,地址:
http://wendos.mycool.net/
E-Mail & MSN: wengierwu AT hotmail.com (最近比较忙,有事请联系DOSroot和雨露,谢谢!)
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『第 15 楼』:
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各高手:我用win2000和xp系统,dos下怎样备份、恢复注册表。98和me的启动盘都没见Scanreg.exe,它是9X的内部命令吗?谢谢解答。
Experts all: I use Windows 2000 and XP systems. How to back up and restore the registry under DOS? I can't see Scanreg.exe in the boot disks of 98 and ME. Is it an internal command of 9X? Thanks for the answer.
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