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运行debug不当!问题大了!!!!!
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我不懂debug,某天好奇心驱使我运行一下,不懂参数强行退出.然后发现:
我的硬盘不支持克隆了,不能运行ghost等,一运行就提示:the program too big to fit in memory.重新分区也不行.提示:emm386 is running .the memory limited 32mb.(大意是内存不能超过32兆).怎么解决.请高手指点?
I don't understand debug. One day, driven by curiosity, I ran it, and forcefully exited without understanding the parameters. Then I found:
My hard disk doesn't support cloning anymore, and I can't run Ghost and so on. As soon as I run it, it prompts: the program too big to fit in memory. It's also no good to repartition. It prompts: emm386 is running. the memory limited 32mb. (The general idea is that the memory can't exceed 32MB). How to solve it. Please give instructions from the experts?
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『第 2 楼』:
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不会吧,the program too big...........一般是应用程序坏了。
Oh, the program too big...........Generally, it's that the application is broken.
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『第 3 楼』:
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不知楼主是运行哪个程序才有些提示,如果是运行全部程序均有此提示,应该是机器启动时没有加载内存管理软件造成基本内存过小造成的。
请更换启动盘重新启动再试。记得加载内存管理软件。(himem.sys及emm368.exe)
I don't know which program the original poster is running to get those prompts. If all programs have this prompt when run, it's because the machine didn't load a memory management software at startup, resulting in too little base memory.
Please change the boot disk and restart to try again. Remember to load the memory management software. (himem.sys and emm368.exe)
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liqi2002112
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『第 4 楼』:
问题解决了一半!
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我今天刚好做了新启动盘,一试果然能克隆了,但我有两硬盘.只有wd行,三星不行.详情是这样:去年10月我在wd盘上运行debug,中途关机退出,再启动时就不能运行ghost,也不能装除dos外的系统.一装就有上面提示.我也换过启动盘也不行.可以做从盘.后我用三星硬盘做主盘.这几天为了解决问题,做了很多尝试.一般运行无忧的pq;fdiskgen;fdisk等都提示emm386 is running ,memory is limited 32mb.然后不能操作,自动退出。如你运行ghost或安装windows,就提示:the program too big to fit in memory。有次运行一个分区软件;有下列提示:emm386 has detected error #u^5 in anapplication at memory address 08cd :3e80.To minimize the chance of data loss,emm386 has hated your computer .For more information ,consult your documentation.搞来试去,三星硬盘也有相同问题了。我向wd客服请教,他说清零就行。前天我用软盘启动后运行fdisk,设活动分区后,两个盘都能运行ghost。我用wd做主盘启动后三星盘不见了,数据全没了,我把三星盘清零后分区也不行,同样有上提示,wd也不能运行ghost。直到刚才,换了启动盘wd可运行ghost,但三星盘还不行,还有上述提示。wd盘以后还会不会有相类似问题还不知道。这是什么问题?还盼各位高手指点!!!!
I made a new bootable disk today, and it turned out that it could clone. But I have two hard drives. Only the WD one works, the Samsung one doesn't. Here's the detail: Last October, I ran debug on the WD disk, shut down halfway and exited. When I booted up again, I couldn't run Ghost or install systems other than DOS. Whenever I tried to install, there was the above - mentioned prompt. I also changed the bootable disk, but it didn't work. It could be used as a slave disk. Then I used the Samsung hard drive as the master disk. In the past few days, to solve the problem, I made many attempts. Generally, when running U无忧's pq; fdiskgen; fdisk, etc., it prompts that emm386 is running, memory is limited to 32MB. Then it can't operate and exits automatically. If you run Ghost or install Windows, it prompts: "the program too big to fit in memory". Once I ran a partition software, and there was the following prompt: "emm386 has detected error #u^5 in an application at memory address 08cd:3e80. To minimize the chance of data loss, emm386 has halted your computer. For more information, consult your documentation." After trying around, the Samsung hard drive also had the same problem. I asked WD customer service, and they said that zeroing it would work. The day before yesterday, I booted with a floppy disk and ran fdisk, set the active partition, and then both disks could run Ghost. When I booted with the WD as the master disk, the Samsung disk disappeared, and all the data was gone. I zeroed the Samsung disk and partitioned it, but it was still the same prompt, and the WD couldn't run Ghost either. Until just now, after changing the bootable disk, the WD could run Ghost, but the Samsung disk was still not working, and there were the above - mentioned prompts. Whether the WD disk will have similar problems in the future is unknown. What is this problem? I'm looking forward to the guidance of all the experts!
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liqi2002112
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『第 5 楼』:
可能这是问题所在!
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今天我用江民硬盘工具测试得一下报告:
"有dos报告的内存一共639kb.
我找到的内存一共是655344字节.
用户程序加载的位置(用16进表示)是03A2H.
用户程序可用内存64064字节.
dos和内存驻留程序所用内存14880字节.
当前dos的版本ms.7.10
串行端口数1
并行端口数1"
我的内存是128兆的,为何内存这么少?怎么增加?
Today I used Jiangmin Hard Disk Tool to test and got the following report:
"The total memory with DOS reports is 639KB.
The total memory I found is 655344 bytes.
The location where the user program is loaded (in hexadecimal) is 03A2H.
The available memory for the user program is 64064 bytes.
The memory used by DOS and memory-resident programs is 14880 bytes.
The current DOS version is MS.7.10
Number of serial ports 1
Number of parallel ports 1"
My memory is 128 megabytes. Why is the memory so little? How to increase it?
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『第 6 楼』:
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首先,采用更换法换条内存试一下,排除一下是不是内存条的问题造成的。如仍存在 问题。请将启动盘的AUTOEXEC.BAT及CONFIG.SYS文件内容传上来让大家分析一下。
First of all, try the replacement method by changing a memory stick to eliminate whether it is a problem caused by the memory stick. If the problem still exists, please upload the contents of the AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS files of the boot disk for everyone to analyze.
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2007-2-25 04:43 |
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liqi2002112
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『第 7 楼』:
先谢谢各位了!!!!!!
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我的内存是sdr,太难找了,以后再试试了.真想不到运行debug会有这么重的后果.
谢谢各位的关心与指点!!!!!!
My memory is SDR, which is too hard to find. I'll try later. I really didn't expect that running debug would have such serious consequences.
Thank you all for your care and guidance!!!!!
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Originally posted by liqi2002112 at 2007-2-26 13:36:
我的内存是sdr,太难找了,以后再试试了.真想不到运行debug会有这么重的后果.
谢谢各位的关心与指点!!!!!!
楼主可先将启动盘的CONFIG.SYS及AUTOEXEC.BAT文件的内容发布,再说明一下软件运行时的软件环境,让大家共同分析是何原因造成此问题。
Originally posted by liqi2002112 at 2007-2-26 13:36:
My memory is SDR, it's too hard to find, I'll try later. I really didn't expect that running debug would have such serious consequences.
Thanks to everyone's care and guidance!!!!!!
The poster can first release the contents of the CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files of the boot disk, and then explain the software environment when the software is running, so that everyone can jointly analyze the cause of this problem.
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『第 9 楼』:
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据我推测,楼主的故障可能跟debug无关,可行的解决步骤:
1、清空CMOS数据并恢复默认BIOS设置。
2、对硬盘进行低格操作。
3、检测是否有硬件损坏。
According to my speculation, the fault of the thread starter may have nothing to do with debug. The feasible solution steps are:
1. Clear the CMOS data and restore the default BIOS settings.
2. Perform a low-level format operation on the hard disk.
3. Detect whether there is any hardware damage.
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如想解决问题,请认真学习“这个帖子”和“这个帖子”并努力遵守,如果可能,请告诉更多的人!
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『第 10 楼』:
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我试过,不加任何内存管理程序GHOST也可以运行的。
GHOST运行时会读分区表、FAT/FAT32系统的文件分配表,NTFS的MFT表,要是某个地方被写错了可能会出这样的问题。PQ有可能修复分区表错误,磁盘扫描可以修复FAT/MFT错误,建议楼主试一下再说。我想是DEBUG退出时写的哪个不该写的地方以至GHOST运行出错了。不会是内存问题。
现在想知道,楼主当时在DEBUG下运行什么指令?
I tried, without any memory management program, GHOST can also run.
When GHOST runs, it will read the partition table, the file allocation table of the FAT/FAT32 system, and the MFT table of NTFS. If something is written wrong somewhere, such a problem may occur. PQ may repair partition table errors, and disk scanning can repair FAT/MFT errors. It is suggested that the owner try it first. I think it is the place that should not be written when DEBUG exits, which causes the GHOST operation error. It is not a memory problem.
Now I want to know, what instruction did the owner run under DEBUG at that time?
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我的一次经历
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我有一次运行一个外部应用程序,它提示是"SCAN THE DISK(Y/N)" 我以为是扫描电脑硬盘而已,就按拉Y,结果怎样,一个好好的、里面全是有用的资料(包括一大堆的整理啦好长时间的DOS资料)80G硬盘四个分区就合成一个区啦,资料一干二净。好心痛啊。没办法恢复。
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I once ran an external application, and it prompted "SCAN THE DISK(Y/N)". I thought it was just scanning the computer hard drive, so I pressed Y. As a result, a good 80GB hard drive with four partitions, all containing useful materials (including a large amount of sorted DOS materials that took a long time to organize) was combined into one partition, and all the materials were gone. It was so heartbreaking. There was no way to recover them.
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liqi2002112
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『第 12 楼』:
不好意思,真感谢各位!
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有一两天没上,有这么多朋友帮我想办法,谢谢了.
硬盘是好的,我现在把它挂到别的硬盘做从盘可以克隆,可;克隆后使用上正常,就是不能用它做主盘装大系统也不能运行ghost.
启动盘的CONFIG.SYS及AUTOEXEC.BAT文件的内容我不懂怎么样提取,不过在联盟下载中有此启动盘下载.也就是沈洁的pwin.一般我用它启动后运行选项2或3.debug是在2运行的.运行的debug是无意的,是什么指令记不得了.
低格已做过,没用.
10楼的说法不知道是怎么样运行,我一运行就有:the program too big to fit in memory.
清空CMOS数据并恢复默认BIOS设置没试过,不知道怎么做,有危险吗?
I haven't been online for a day or two, and there are so many friends helping me figure out a way. Thank you.
The hard drive is okay. Now I hang it as a slave drive on another hard drive and can clone it. But after cloning, it works normally, but it can't be used as the master drive to install a large system or run Ghost.
I don't know how to extract the contents of the CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files of the boot disk. However, there is a download of this boot disk in the union. That is Shen Jie's pwin. Generally, I run option 2 or 3 after booting with it. Debug is run in 2. The debug I ran was by accident, and I can't remember what command it was.
Low-level formatting has been done, but it didn't work.
I don't know how to run the statement of building 10. As soon as I run it, there is: the program too big to fit in memory.
I haven't tried clearing the CMOS data and restoring the default BIOS settings. I don't know how to do it. Is there any danger?
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『第 13 楼』:
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清空CMOS数据并恢复默认BIOS设置没试过,不知道怎么做,有危险吗?
没什么危险,打开机箱,取下纽扣电池,用金属物体碰触+ - 极(俗称放电)其实纽扣电池旁边有放电接口的。
如果还不行取下所有的PCI USB等设备调试,再不行只有重刷BIOS了(那才危险)
Haven't tried clearing the CMOS data and restoring the default BIOS settings. I don't know how to do it. Is there any risk?
There's no real risk. Open the case, take out the coin cell battery, and touch the + and - poles with a metal object (commonly called discharging). Actually, there's a discharging interface next to the coin cell battery.
If that doesn't work, remove all PCI USB and other devices for debugging. If it still doesn't work, you'll have to reflash the BIOS (that's the risky part)
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如果硬盘内没有重要数据,可使用深山红叶制作的系统工具盘进行处理。此盘的工具应该是算是能处理99%以上的软硬件问题了。
If there is no important data in the hard disk, you can use the system tool disk made by Shenshan Hongye for processing. The tools on this disk should be able to handle more than 99% of software and hardware problems.
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我运行一次, 结果全部变成乱码了, 后来导入备份的.reg 文件才解决问题.
I ran it once, and the result was all garbled. Later, I imported the backed-up.reg file to solve the problem.
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