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Sony Z15笔记本Sata的ahci模式打开怎样做C盘克隆备份?
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SONY VGN Z15t笔记本电脑预装VISTA,要改装成XP得找了个USB软驱装SATA驱动才正常安装下去。
BIOS设置里没有关于SATA的设置选项,屏蔽了。用克隆XP光盘启动根本找不到硬盘。
现XP系统已装好了,但遇到的问题也是一样,怎样让ghost在dos 下可以读到achi模式的硬盘进行备份呢?
SONY VGN Z15t laptop comes with VISTA pre-installed. To install XP, a USB floppy drive was needed to load SATA drivers for the installation to proceed normally.
There are no SATA - related setting options in the BIOS setup, which is disabled. When booting from a cloned XP CD, the hard drive cannot be found at all.
Now the XP system has been installed, but the same problem occurs. How to make ghost read the hard drive in ACHI mode under DOS for backup?
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你连试都没试吧?ghost是通过bios直接访问硬盘,不必加载驱动
You didn't even try it, did you? Ghost accesses the hard disk directly through BIOS without loading drivers.
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试过的。GHOST安装XP不了
Tried it. GHOST can't install XP
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Originally posted by qwertl at 2009-2-6 21:38:
试过的。GHOST安装XP不了
嘿嘿,你到底是要安装xp还是恢复/备份c盘?看来偶的语文真的学得不好了。
Originally posted by qwertl at 2009-2-6 21:38:
Tried it. GHOST can't install XP
Hehe, are you actually trying to install XP or restore/backup the C drive? It seems my Chinese is really not good enough.
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安装.备份/恢复都不行的 ,都找不到硬盘. 在dos下有没有支持achi模式的SATA控制器的驱动呢??
Installation, backup/restore are all not working, can't find the hard drive at all. Is there a driver for SATA controllers that support the AHCI mode under DOS?
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我的是thinkpad的本,启用了ACHI模式,进入dos做ghost镜像和恢复都是没问题的。
ACHI模式就是让我无法加载sata光驱,必须改成comp模式才行,很挠头!
是不是使用的ghost版本不同?
我的是8.3的。压缩率和稳定性都不错,我一般不怎么使用现在的11.X.X.X.的版本。
My ThinkPad laptop has ACHI mode enabled, and there's no problem with making and restoring Ghost images in DOS.
ACHI mode makes it impossible for me to load the SATA optical drive; I have to switch to Compatibility mode, which is really frustrating!
Is it because of the different versions of Ghost I'm using?
Mine is version 8.3. The compression ratio and stability are pretty good. I generally don't use the current 11.X.X.X versions.
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不行哦.我的笔记本sony z15设置死了是ACHI,没得提供修改,装系统还非得找USB软驱才装到.
麻烦得很
No good. My Sony Z15 notebook is set to ACHI, and there's no way to modify it. To install the system, I have to find a USB floppy drive to do it. It's really troublesome.
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你能不能做个U盘的启动,启动到dos,然后看看能不能认出硬盘。我的就是这样的。
光驱在achi下是怎么都认不出来的。
Can you make a USB drive bootable, boot to DOS, and then see if it can recognize the hard drive? That's what mine is like. The CD drive can't be recognized at all under AHCI.
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可以启动到dos,PE都可以,就是找不到硬盘.SATA驱动没加载
Can boot to DOS, PE can also, just can't find the hard drive. SATA driver not loaded
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嘿嘿,进入dos后楼上的是如何寻找硬盘的?
Heheh, after entering DOS, how did the person upstairs find the hard disk?
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re qwertl:
我不知道您采用什么介质进入到dos的,我觉得您完全可以采用U盘、或者是光盘进入到dos,再利用dos下的工具:pqmagic或者是diskgen来查看是否有硬盘。
不过有一点需要提醒您,如果您购买的是新的笔记本,它的分区格式可能存在问题(现在的厂商为了实现一键还原,分区表经过处理,都不是很严格,甚至是进入pqmagic后提示分区有错误,这是完全有可能出现的,我见过的好多新的笔记本都存在这个问题,包括我的,但是xp和vista都认为此正常)。
因此,你发现不了硬盘还有可能是如下原因:
1.硬盘的分区结构有问题,建议备份数据,使用pqmagic或者是diskgen强制重新分区,或者使用linux实现分区,他们产生的分区结构是非常传统和严格的。
2.刚刚新购买的笔记本各个分区都是ntfs格式的(一个大C盘),因此dos常规命令行模式下无法发现硬盘盘符为正常。建议使用其他工具查看硬盘结构
3.bois中硬盘设置是否能把sata相关模式变为兼容模式或者是IDE模式。
希望您能把问题的详细情况描述一下,比如使用dos系统、引导介质、添加的驱动、查看工具、产生问题时的提示内容等等,以便大家能给出更加有目的性的意见。
re qwertl:
I don't know what medium you used to enter DOS. I think you can definitely use a USB flash drive or a CD to enter DOS, and then use DOS tools: pqmagic or diskgen to check if there is a hard disk.
But there is one thing to remind you. If you bought a new notebook, its partition format may have problems (now manufacturers process the partition table to achieve one-key restore, which is not very strict. Even after entering pqmagic, it prompts that there are errors in the partition, which is completely possible. I have seen many new notebooks have this problem, including mine, but XP and Vista consider this normal).
Therefore, the possible reasons why you can't find the hard disk are as follows:
1. The partition structure of the hard disk is problematic. It is recommended to back up data, use pqmagic or diskgen to force re-partition, or use Linux to partition. The partition structure they generate is very traditional and strict.
2. All partitions of a newly purchased notebook are in NTFS format (one large C drive), so it is normal that the hard disk drive letter cannot be found in the DOS command line mode. It is recommended to use other tools to view the hard disk structure.
3. Whether the hard disk setting in BIOS can change the SATA-related mode to compatibility mode or IDE mode.
I hope you can describe the detailed situation of the problem, such as the DOS system used, the boot medium, the added drivers, the viewing tool, the prompt content when the problem occurs, etc., so that everyone can give more targeted suggestions.
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Originally posted by knifeflying at 2009-2-22 10:54 AM:
re qwertl:
我不知道您采用什么介质进入到dos的,我觉得您完全可以采用U盘、或者是光盘进入到dos,再利用dos下的工具:pqmagic或者是diskgen来查看是否 ...
SONY VGN Z15t笔记本电脑预装VISTA,要改装成XP得找了个USB软驱装SATA驱动才正常安装下去。
BIOS设置里没有关于SATA的设置选项,屏蔽了。用克隆XP光盘启动根本找不到硬盘。
现XP系统已装好了,但遇到的问题也是一样,怎样让ghost在dos 下可以读到achi模式的硬盘进行备份呢?
其实一名话就是:DOS下能备份还原SATA硬盘的AHCI模式硬盘吗?
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Originally posted by knifeflying at 2009-2-22 10:54 AM:
re qwertl:
I don't know what medium you used to enter DOS. I think you can completely use a USB flash drive or a CD to enter DOS, and then use DOS tools: pqmagic or diskgen to check whether ...
The SONY VGN Z15t notebook computer is pre-installed with VISTA. To install XP, a USB floppy drive was used to install SATA drivers to proceed with the normal installation.
There are no settings related to SATA in the BIOS setup, which is disabled. Booting from a cloned XP CD cannot find the hard drive at all.
Now the XP system has been installed, but the same problem is encountered. How to make ghost read the hard drive in AHCI mode under DOS for backup?
In fact, in one sentence: Can the SATA hard drive in AHCI mode be backed up and restored under DOS?
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re qwertl:
我的就是sata硬盘,并且开启了ahci模式,进入dos后可以看见硬盘,可以用ghost备份或者是还原。
您说的用克隆xp光盘启动,不是找不到硬盘,而是在最基本的系统引导之后,由于没有sata的光驱驱动,无法识别光驱,因而无法找到存在于光盘上gho文件。
“从光驱引导”和“识别光驱”是两个概念。一个dos系统能够从光驱引导进入,但是进入之后无法加载光驱驱动,无法读取光盘中的文件。这是完全有可能的事情。
您现在机器上的xp是怎么装上的?
re qwertl:
My hard drive is a SATA one, and the AHCI mode is enabled. After entering DOS, I can see the hard drive and can use Ghost to back up or restore.
What you mentioned about booting with the clone XP CD, it's not that the hard drive isn't found, but after the most basic system boot, because there's no SATA optical drive driver, the optical drive can't be recognized, so the GHO file on the CD can't be found.
"Booting from the optical drive" and "recognizing the optical drive" are two different concepts. A DOS system can boot from the optical drive, but after entering, it can't load the optical drive driver and can't read the files on the CD. This is completely possible.
How did you install the XP on your machine now?
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关键不知楼主如何判断dos下找不到硬盘的。
The key is I don't know how the original poster judges that the hard disk cannot be found under DOS.
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SONY的笔记本也会犯这种低级错误,看来微软的影响力还是太大了。
对grub4dos开发过程了解的人都应该知道这种情况,某些厂家在微软的授意下刻意在BIOS中制造不兼容,阻止DOS和基于BIOS软件(例如Grub4dos)的继续生存,这是很无耻的一种行为。我大胆推断,SONY的这款笔记本就是一个典型的例子,它的BIOS不再提供对ACHI模式的支持,导致所有基于BIOS的软件都无法访问硬盘,说白了,它的这款笔记本是专为VISTA和XP设计的,不再提供对实模式软件的支持。楼主可以在XP下安装grub4dos,然后重新启动进入grub4dos,看能不能找到硬盘,如果grub4dos能够找到,那么DOS也应该可以访问。
至于楼主的问题,楼主可以考虑不使用DOS+Ghost,你完全可以使用XP + Acronis True Image 来做克隆。
另外,也可以用PE+相应的SATA驱动,然后使用ghost32来备份和恢复克隆。不过,这需要你自己定制一个PE了。
SONY laptops can also make such a low-level mistake. It seems that Microsoft's influence is still too great.
Anyone who understands the development process of grub4dos should know this situation. Some manufacturers deliberately create incompatibility in the BIOS under Microsoft's instigation, preventing the continued survival of DOS and BIOS-based software (such as Grub4dos). This is a very shameless behavior. I boldly infer that this SONY laptop is a typical example. Its BIOS no longer supports the ACHI mode, resulting in all BIOS-based software being unable to access the hard disk. To put it simply, this laptop of it is designed specifically for VISTA and XP, and no longer supports real-mode software. The owner can install grub4dos under XP, then restart and enter grub4dos to see if the hard disk can be found. If grub4dos can find the hard disk, then DOS should also be able to access it.
As for the owner's problem, the owner can consider not using DOS + Ghost. You can completely use XP + Acronis True Image to do cloning.
In addition, you can also use PE + corresponding SATA drivers, and then use ghost32 to backup and restore cloning. However, this requires you to customize a PE yourself.
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