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谁来挽救dos的生命
vista出来好久了,这个微软的新操作系统只支持ntfs分区,那么微软以后的操作系统也会这样,那么只支持fat和fat32的dos怎么办,在ntfs分区中dos还能存活吗?比如我的4个分区都是ntfs,用矮人dos和maxdos进入硬盘发现dos下的命令.com、.exe和.bat都不能运行,有什么解决方法吗?前提是我想保留ntfs分区。听说这里是dos最有名的社区,不知道有高人能解决这个问题没有,我想要的是真正的解决方法,不是没有意义的争论。
Who will save the life of DOS?
Vista has been out for a long time. This new Microsoft operating system only supports NTFS partitions. Then, the operating systems Microsoft will release in the future will also be like this. Then, what about DOS that only supports FAT and FAT32? Can DOS survive in NTFS partitions? For example, my 4 partitions are all NTFS. When I enter the hard disk with矮人DOS and maxdos, I find that the .com, .exe and .bat commands under DOS cannot run. Is there any solution? The premise is that I want to keep the NTFS partitions. I heard that this is the most famous community for DOS. I don't know if there are experts who can solve this problem. I want a real solution, not meaningless arguments.
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如果这个问题能解决,我申请把这个帖子加进精华并置顶,呵呵
If this problem can be solved, I apply to add this post to the essence and set it as top, he he
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DOS并不会因为不支持ntfs而消亡,就如同Linux也不支持ntfs一样,这是理论上的。
其次,如果你真的想使用DOS,至少要给它保留一个FAT分区,这是比较尊重的做法,如果你不想这样做,就浪费点儿内存,制作一个比较大的DOS软盘映像文件,然后用grub4dos之类的来启动它。dos启动起来后,有ntfspro, ntfs4dos,paragon ifs等好多软件可以让dos访问ntfs分区,这应该是比较完美的解决方案了。
DOS will not perish because it doesn't support NTFS, just as Linux doesn't support NTFS either; this is theoretical.
Secondly, if you really want to use DOS, at least keep a FAT partition for it; this is a more respectful approach. If you don't want to do that, just waste some memory, make a relatively large DOS floppy disk image file, and then use something like grub4dos to boot it. After DOS boots up, there are many software like ntfspro, ntfs4dos, paragon ifs that can let DOS access NTFS partitions; this should be a relatively perfect solution.
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感谢3楼,我现在就是用你说的方法操作的,可是dos下的命令很多,怎么可能都放在虚拟的软盘中呢,我想还是应该使dos和ntfs完美结合起来才是使dos获得新生的好办法
Thanks to the 3rd floor, I'm operating in the way you said now. But there are so many commands in DOS, how can they all be put in a virtual floppy disk? I think it's still better to perfectly combine DOS and NTFS, which is a good way to make DOS regain its vitality
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dos下的命令很多,并不等于你会同时使用所有的命令,我想不出来dos除了系统维护方面的功能还能有什么其它的用途,再一个,软盘映像文件可以做的很大,至少几百M是没有问题的,只受你内存大小的限制。另外,如果你真的想使用很多dos命令,你不在乎给硬盘多分一个fat分区吧?注意:请使用最后一个逻辑分区作为fat分区,如果你的其它分区全部是ntfs分区的话。
There are many commands under DOS, but it doesn't mean you will use all commands at the same time. I can't think of other uses of DOS besides system maintenance functions. Also, a floppy disk image file can be made very large, at least hundreds of MB is no problem, only limited by the size of your memory. In addition, if you really want to use many DOS commands, don't you care about dividing one more fat partition on the hard disk? Note: Please use the last logical partition as the fat partition if all your other partitions are NTFS partitions.
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根据楼主的希望,看来是无法实现的。
不知何故,原用户名lianjiang2004无法登陆了,郁闷中。呵呵。
According to the building owner's hope, it seems that it cannot be realized.
I don't know why, the original username lianjiang2004 can't log in, feeling depressed. Hehe.
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呵呵,被黑了。
Hehe, was hacked.
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一键GHOST里的 DOS工具箱,MS-DOS 都是运行在支持NTFS的环境下的,复制、删除、更名。。。如同在FAT下操作一样,95%的兼容,主要依靠的是NTFS4DOS 1.9 这个驱动,难道这还不够吗?
希望这是给初级用户的普级知识,请楼主下次不要用“激将法”,我受不了(哈哈),多搜索搜索,多学习学习,多实践实践。。。不多说,要跑题。
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The DOS toolbox in One - Key GHOST, MS - DOS all run in an environment that supports NTFS. Copying, deleting, renaming... are the same as operating under FAT. With 95% compatibility, mainly relying on the NTFS4DOS 1.9 driver. Isn't this enough?
Hope this is popular knowledge for novice users. Please, the landlord don't use "stimulating tactics" next time, I can't stand it (haha). Search more, study more, practice more... Don't talk more, going off - topic.
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Originally posted by Climbing at 2008-5-8 17:42:
呵呵,被黑了。
通过向管理员申诉,已要回。
登陆后,发现确实被人黑掉了。
使用邮箱改成了下面这个XX的:
forgetpwd8@126.com
Originally posted by Climbing at 2008-5-8 17:42:
Hehe, got hacked.
Through appealing to the administrator, it has been retrieved.
After logging in, I found that it was indeed hacked by someone.
The email was changed to the following XX one:
forgetpwd8@126.com
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我在使用激将法吗?哈哈……
感谢Climbing,感谢版主,dos对于我确实是已经很生疏了,但却一直是我的钟爱。
Climbing所说的能够虚拟几百兆的软盘,我想请问一下是怎么虚拟出来的,我用vfloppy好像只能虚拟出2.88兆来,请指教一下吧,先谢谢了。
我现在遇到的问题是这样,我以前都是用fat32分区作dos和xp的双系统,正如Climbing所说,主要是方便系统维护,后来听说vista只支持ntfs的主引导分区,就把所有分区都改成了ntfs,在dos启动后却无法运行硬盘中的xp安装程序“winnt.exe”,用ghost11也出错,版主所说的ntfs4dos下可以执行xp的安装程序和ghost吗?请各位高手指点一下,无论如何我是准备投到ntfs的怀抱了,毕竟安全性较高嘛,咱也来个与时俱进,呵呵。
人说dos联盟里都是高手而且这些高手基本都是“我的热情好像一把火”,果然不假,哈哈,我要多学习学习,见贤思齐嘛,呵呵。
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Am I using the "goad method"? Haha...
Thanks to Climbing, thanks to the moderator. DOS is indeed very unfamiliar to me, but it has always been my favorite.
What Climbing said about being able to virtualize floppy disks of hundreds of megabytes, I would like to ask how it is virtualized. I can only virtualize 2.88 megabytes with vfloppy. Please give me some guidance, thank you in advance.
The problem I am encountering now is like this. I used to use a FAT32 partition to make a dual system of DOS and XP, just as Climbing said, mainly for convenient system maintenance. Later, I heard that Vista only supports the NTFS primary boot partition, so I changed all partitions to NTFS. After DOS boots, I can't run the XP installation program "winnt.exe" in the hard disk. Using Ghost 11 also gives an error. Can the moderator say that XP installation programs and Ghost can be executed under ntfs4dos? Please give guidance from all the experts. Anyway, I am ready to embrace NTFS, after all, the security is relatively high. Let's also keep up with the times, hehe.
People say that in the DOS Union, there are all experts and these experts are basically "my enthusiasm is like a fire", which is really true. Haha, I need to learn more. Learn from the贤 and think of being like them, hehe.
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用winimage修改现成的可启动img,可改成任意大的。
然后用grub4dos进行仿真。
可参看“GRUB4DOS、SYSLINUX及其它启动管理软件讨论专区 ”重的相关帖子。
Modify the existing bootable img with WinImage, and it can be changed to any size. Then simulate it with GRUB4DOS. You can refer to the relevant posts in the "GRUB4DOS, SYSLINUX and Other Boot Management Software Discussion Area".
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就算用vista,也没有必要将所有的分区变成ntfs分区,ntfs分区也没有微软吹嘘的那么安全,在我看来反倒是有很多问题。
建议楼主多学习一下grub4dos的用法。
Even if using Vista, there is no need to convert all partitions to NTFS partitions. NTFS partitions are not as secure as Microsoft boasts; in my opinion, there are actually many problems. It is suggested that the original poster learn more about the usage of grub4dos.
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感谢Climbing感谢lianjiang2004感谢cctv(怎么这么贫哪,汗一个),感谢你们的关注,斑竹提到的NTFS4DOS 1.9让我产生了一个新问题,我在dos下访问ntfs是通过ntfsdos实现的,通过运行其中从windos xp中提取的ntfspro.exe来加载ntfs分区,,复制、删除、更名等功能在dos下都能实现,但是不能运行在ntfs分区中的一些外部命令,比如winnt.exe、subst等,据我所知在dos下加载ntfs有几种方式,各位高手都是有经验的人,或许对各种方法都有所尝试,可不可以给我介绍下,那种加载方式比较好呢。呵呵,我的问题是不是太多了,就麻烦大家不吝赐教吧。先谢过了。
我到这个论坛后才了解到grub的,我目前用的是vfloppy,我并不太在乎图形界面,除图形界面外,两者功能上有什么区别吗,我觉得grub是个复杂的东西,我得慢慢学起,呵呵
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Thanks to Climbing, thanks to lianjiang2004, thanks to CCTV (why so playful, sweat one), thank you for your attention. The NTFS4DOS 1.9 mentioned by the moderator has raised a new question for me. I access NTFS under DOS through ntfsdos, and load the NTFS partition by running ntfspro.exe extracted from Windows XP. Functions such as copying, deleting, renaming can be realized under DOS, but some external commands in the NTFS partition cannot be run, such as winnt.exe, subst, etc. As far as I know, there are several ways to load NTFS under DOS. All the experts here are experienced people, maybe they have tried various methods. Can you introduce to me which loading method is better? Hehe, is my question too much? Just trouble everyone to give unsparing advice. Thanks in advance.
I just learned about grub after I came to this forum. I am currently using vfloppy. I don't care too much about the graphical interface. What are the differences in functions between the two except the graphical interface? I think grub is a complicated thing, I have to learn it slowly, hehe
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诸位高手你们在哪里?我提的问题或许太菜了吧,我也想应该自己去搜搜学学,可是我现在还没有摸到门路,就请大家指点下吧
Where are all the experts? Maybe the question I raised is too basic? I also think I should search and learn by myself, but I haven't found the way yet, so please give me some pointers.
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少提问,多学习。
真想学的,参考资料到处都是,可google之,可百度之。
Ask fewer questions and learn more.
If you really want to learn, reference materials are everywhere, you can search on Google or Baidu.
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