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本论坛界面中一张奇怪的图片
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To All:
不知大家有没有注意到,本论坛每个分版区的主题列表界面中都有一张奇怪的图片。就是在界面右上角“帮助”的下方,那个内容为三个向下箭头的图片,它附带一个页面底部的链接。
奇怪的地方在于,如果用鼠标将这个图片选中,那么原来看起来一模一样的三个向下箭头,变成了两道直线夹一个向下三角的形状。中间的三角因为边缘虚化,更接近于钻石形。
不知道大家对此有何解释?
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To All:
I wonder if everyone has noticed that there is a strange picture in the topic list interface of each sub - section of this forum. That is, below "Help" in the upper right corner of the interface, there is a picture with three downward arrows, and it has a link at the bottom of the page.
The strange thing is that if you select this picture with the mouse, the original three downward arrows that looked exactly the same become two straight lines with a downward triangle in the middle. The triangle in the middle is more like a diamond shape because the edges are blurred.
I wonder what everyone's explanation is for this?
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坏着好奇,我单击它,很正常呀..没有你说的情况呀..
Just curious, I clicked it, it's normal... There's no situation you mentioned.
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Re GOTOmsdos:
不是单击,那样会转到页底;是用鼠标拖拽选中图片,使它反色。
Re GOTOmsdos:
Not a single click, that would go to the bottom of the page; use the mouse to drag and select the image to make it invert color.
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我是用鼠标拖拽选中图片,但它很正常啊,没有反色
可能是各个鼠标不同吧..
I selected the picture by dragging the mouse, but it's normal, no inverse color. Maybe it's because of different mice..
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Re GOTOmsdos:
请看下图:
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Please see the following picture:
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通过用放大镜观察,我发现IE应该是这样对图片进行反色的:以图片左上角为起点,每隔一个像素,就将原像素变成蓝色。
就此问题做个图示:
Through observing with a magnifying glass, I find that IE should invert the colors of the picture like this: starting from the top-left corner of the picture, every other pixel, the original pixel is changed to blue.
Make a diagram for this issue:
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不同的图案变化取决于小三角之间相隔的像素数。
Different patterns change depending on the number of pixels between the small triangles.
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以及小三角的形状(接楼上贴)。
and the shape of the small triangle (continued from the previous post)
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哦, 我看到了! 是这样的
不知道是有意设计成这样,还是BUG造成的.
Oh, I see! That's the case. I don't know if it's intentionally designed like this or caused by a bug.
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偶觉得偶说得很明白了,是IE的反色原理造成的。哪有什么BUG。
I think I've made it very clear. It's due to the inverse color principle of IE. There's no bug at all.
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Re Michael:
多谢 Michael 兄,解得很漂亮!
那即是说,之所以三个三角出现不相同的反色变化,是因为这三个三角形的起始点处于图像中的像素点位置的奇偶数不同,因而出现不同的填充反色效果。
但是我观察到的情况略有不同,那就是图像的外围背景似乎并没有间隔填充蓝色,而是全部填充,当然也有可能是白色反色成黑色后难以辨别。
利用这个原理,应该可以做出一些有趣的图片,未选中时是一个混乱图形,选中后出现某个正常图形,只是还不知这种图片如何制作,自己的图像学基础实在很弱 :-)
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Re Michael:
Thanks, Brother Michael, that's very neatly solved!
That is to say, the reason why the three triangles have different inverse color changes is that the starting points of these three triangles are at positions with different odd and even numbers of pixels in the image, thus resulting in different filling inverse color effects.
But the situation I observed is slightly different, that is, the outer background of the image does not seem to be filled with blue at intervals, but is all filled. Of course, it may also be that the white inverse color to black is difficult to distinguish.
Using this principle, some interesting pictures can probably be made. When not selected, it is a chaotic shape, and when selected, a certain normal shape appears. I just don't know how to make such pictures. My basic knowledge of image science is really weak :-)
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是的,我用放大镜看了半天呢,呵呵,不过我叫做Michael。
Yes, I looked at it with a magnifying glass for a long time, heh heh, but my name is Michael.
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开始我做了个网页,将图片进行缩放,发现图片越小,反色后的差异越大。
后来,偶又单独拿出左边一个三角,对其进行反色观察,发现反色后的三角仍是一个对称图形,而当它处于三个三角的左端或右端进行反色时,不再成中轴对称了。
后来就有了如上的猜测,后来就用放大镜看,果然如此。
At first, I made a web page to scale the image. I found that the smaller the image, the greater the difference after inversion.
Later, I separately took out the left triangle and observed its inversion. I found that the inverted triangle was still a symmetrical figure. However, when it was at the left end or right end of the three triangles for inversion, it was no longer axisymmetric.
Then there was the above - mentioned guess. Later, I used a magnifying glass to look, and sure enough, it was like that.
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Originally posted by willsort at 2005-9-5 10:26 PM:
Re Michael:
多谢 Michael 兄,解得很漂亮!
那即是说,之所以三个三角出现不相同的反色变化,是因为这三个三角形的起始点处于图像中的僠...
呵呵,你选中的部分不仅是图片,还有一部分空白网页的,不信你右击全蓝部分试试,肯定没有“图片另存为”。当时我也迷惑了一会儿呢。
呵呵,你选中的部分不仅是图片,还有一部分空白网页的,不信你右击全蓝部分试试,肯定没有“图片另存为”。当时我也迷惑了一会儿呢。
Hehe, the part you selected is not only the picture but also part of the blank web page. If you don't believe it, right-click on the completely blue part and you'll find there's no "Save Image As". I was also confused for a while at that time.
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Re Michael:
刚才又思考了一下,觉得我们的考虑有不周之处,因为“IE没有任何理由要间隔填充蓝色”。
而我们之所以看到间隔的蓝色填充,很可能是因为那个图片是GIF图片,而此类图片都是经过色彩抖动的,也就是说看上去是连续的颜色,实际上是两种相近色的间隔组合。
而IE的反色能够捕捉并扩大这种颜色差别。因为反色后似乎只有蓝、白、黑等几种基本色,其他颜色都被换算成相近的颜色。而本来相近的两种颜色,经过反色换算后,变成了截然不同的颜色。
这样,外围背景全部蓝色就得到了解释,因为背景部分因为颜色重复而被GIF优化掉而没有进行抖动,因此显示还原时仍然是连续的白色,反色时则也是连续的蓝色。
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不仅仅是图片侧面,即使两个三角形中间,也是连续的蓝色填充。
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Re Michael:
Just now I thought about it again and felt that our consideration was incomplete because "IE has no reason to have blue filling in the gaps".
And the reason we see the blue filling in the gaps is probably because that picture is a GIF picture, and such pictures are all color-dithered, that is, they look like continuous colors, but actually they are a combination of two similar colors at intervals.
And IE's inverse color can capture and expand this color difference. Because after inverse color, there seem to be only a few basic colors such as blue, white, black, etc., and other colors are all converted into similar colors. And the two originally similar colors, after inverse color conversion, become completely different colors.
In this way, the explanation for the entire blue outer background is that the background part is optimized by the GIF and not dithered because of color repetition, so when restored, it is still continuous white, and when inverse colored, it is also continuous blue.
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It's not just the side of the picture, even between the two triangles, there is continuous blue filling.
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