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[2018-12-16] Jack R. Ellis drivers (XMGR, XHDD, XDVD2, RDISK)
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自2017年,不少更新,逐步改良,不覺又一年有多。
XHDD /P cache limit raised to 1.5 Gigabytes (uses up to 48K of upper/DOS memory). Minor XHDD size changes. Other drivers unchanged, re-dated only.
http://optimizr.dyndns.org
Since 2017, many updates have been made, gradually improved, and it's been another year unknowingly.
XHDD /P cache limit increased to 1.5 gigabytes (uses up to 48K of upper/DOS memory). Minor XHDD size changes. Other drivers remain unchanged, only re-dated.
http://optimizr.dyndns.org
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gamegod
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谢谢 johnsonlam 几年来一直更新,请教一下,我用pcem 1.4,xdvd2.sys最新版本驱动光盘,xdvd2正常载入,mscdex 或 shsucdx 也正常载入:
XDVD2, 12-16-2018. CD/DVD name is MSCD001
No V2.0C+ PCI!
CD0: IDE0 Secondary-master, PCemCD, PIO
MSCDEX Version 2.25
Copyright (C) IBM Corp. 1986-1994. All rights reserved.
Drive D: = Driver MSCD001 unit 0
但就是读不出CD内容,显示如下:
C:\>dir d:
CDR103: CDROM not High Sierra or ISO-9660 format reading drive D
Abort, Retry, Fail?
改用 vide-cdd.sys 或 oakcdrom.sys,则一切正常。但Jack写的DVD驱动,试过UIDE.sys, UDVD2.sys, 都是一样不行,既使不用himem.sys和任何内存管理,完全常规内存。光盘 img 也换过好几张,都是标准 ISO9660 格式的,不是Joliet 或其它DOS不兼容的格式,都统统出错,LZ能否转告 Jack,让他修正一下。
在pcem论坛上也有老外在说这个问题,他用的是freedos和里面的UDVD.sys
http://pcem-emulator.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3031&p=10807
Last edited by gamegod on 2019-2-1 at 14:31 ]
Thanks to johnsonlam for updating for several years. I would like to ask. I use pcem 1.4, the latest version driver CD of xdvd2.sys. xdvd2 is normally loaded, and mscdex or shsucdx are also normally loaded:
XDVD2, 12-16-2018. CD/DVD name is MSCD001
No V2.0C+ PCI!
CD0: IDE0 Secondary-master, PCemCD, PIO
MSCDEX Version 2.25
Copyright (C) IBM Corp. 1986-1994. All rights reserved.
Drive D: = Driver MSCD001 unit 0
But it just can't read the CD content, and the following is displayed:
C:\>dir d:
CDR103: CDROM not High Sierra or ISO-9660 format reading drive D
Abort, Retry, Fail?
When using vide-cdd.sys or oakcdrom.sys, everything is normal. But for Jack's DVD driver, I have tried UIDE.sys, UDVD2.sys, all the same, even without himem.sys and any memory management, completely conventional memory. The CD image has also been changed several times, all are standard ISO9660 format, not Joliet or other DOS incompatible formats, all have errors. Can LZ please inform Jack to correct it.
There are also foreigners in the pcem forum talking about this problem. He uses freedos and the UDVD.sys inside.
http://pcem-emulator.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3031&p=10807
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johnsonlam
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十分抱歉,看來你只是在模擬器内測試,沒有在真正的硬體上測試。
Jack Ellis 的這幾個driver,要在真實機器上用,並沒有針對模擬環境,無論怎樣看來很棒很厲害的模擬器,都與真的機器有點分別,這些drivers都是在真正的電腦上研發,除非你找到證據在真的電腦也有問題,否則只能説聲抱歉,無法協助。
I'm very sorry, it seems you only tested in an emulator, not on real hardware.
Jack Ellis's these drivers, to be used on real machines, are not targeted at the emulation environment. No matter how great and powerful the emulator seems, there are some differences from the real machine. These drivers were developed on real computers. Unless you find evidence of problems on real computers, I'm sorry, I can't assist.
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Originally posted by johnsonlam at 2019-2-11 09:57:
十分抱歉,看來你只是在模擬器内測試,沒有在真正的硬體上測試。
Jack Ellis 的這幾個driver,要在真實機器上用,並沒有針對模擬環境,無論 ...
你的網站在我的這個地方的移動網路很容易連接不通,很容易出現連接被重置。
Originally posted by johnsonlam at 2019-2-11 09:57:
I'm very sorry, it seems you are only testing in an emulator, not on real hardware.
Jack Ellis's these drivers, to be used on real machines, are not targeted at the simulation environment, no matter ...
Your website is very easy to have connection failures on the mobile network in my place, and it is very easy to have the connection reset.
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Originally posted by gamegod at 2019-1-31 20:26:
谢谢 johnsonlam 几年来一直更新,请教一下,我用pcem 1.4,xdvd2.sys最新版本驱动光盘,xdvd2正常载入,mscdex 或 shsucdx 也正常载入:
XDVD2, 12-16-2018. CD/DVD ...
我曾经使用过Neko Project 12/W模拟器安装Windows 95也碰到过此情况,最后解决了。
Originally posted by gamegod at 2019-1-31 20:26:
Thanks johnsonlam for updating for several years. Let's ask, I use pcem 1.4, xdvd2.sys the latest version of the driver disc, xdvd2 is normally loaded, and mscdex or shsucdx is also normally loaded:
XDVD2, 12-16-2018. CD/DVD ...
I once encountered this situation when installing Windows 95 with Neko Project 12/W emulator, and finally solved it.
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bankw3000
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网站访问不了,能否提供附件下载?谢谢!
The website is not accessible, can you provide the attachment download? Thanks!
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Originally posted by bankw3000 at 2019-2-19 01:28:
网站访问不了,能否提供附件下载?谢谢!
可以打开,需要fq。
Originally posted by bankw3000 at 2019-2-19 01:28:
The website is not accessible, can you provide the attachment download? Thank you!
It can be opened, but requires a VPN.
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网站打不开,估计被墙挡住了
The website can't be opened. It's estimated that it's blocked by the Great Firewall.
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Originally posted by 雨露 at 2019-2-20 12:20:
网站打不开,估计被墙挡住了
移动网络可以打开
Originally posted by Yulu at 2019-2-20 12:20:
The website can't be opened, probably blocked by the Great Firewall
Mobile network can be opened
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gamegod
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对于johnsonlam表示XDVD2只能支持实机,真是遗憾!
在如今老电脑越来越少的情况下,要找到一台386,486,Pentium这样的实机真的是越来越难了。 老的实机肯定会越来越少,乃至完全消失(现在已经差不多了),以后我们要用DOS怀旧,应该都是在模拟器或虚拟机中用了,所以我觉得XDVD2对模拟器的支持还是很关键的。特别是PCem,完全和实机没两样了,因为它是从基于硬件底层的模拟,模拟了各种主板(例如很早的IBM PC/XT),声卡(连AWE32都模拟了),显卡(从CGA到SVGA)。我想PCem绝对是以后怀旧DOS,Win3X和Windows9X/Me这些老操作系统的主力!
我不知XDVD2作者Jack是怎么想的,身为作者,应该很希望完善自己的作品。兼容模拟器应该比实机更容易,毕竟实机五花八门,很难收集到全面的信息。模拟器就那么几个,解决了就一劳永逸了,而且对未来而言,更有价值。再说,PCem里已经内置有很多种主机可以供他测试了。
如今玩DOS的还有几个人,都是骨灰级了吧,看看这里冷冷清清就知道。大家来这里都是对DOS还有一分情怀和怀旧在,还要区分什么实机派模拟派吗?
It's really a pity that Johnsonlam said that XDVD2 only supports real machines!
In today's situation where there are fewer and fewer old computers, it's really getting harder and harder to find a real machine like 386, 486, Pentium. The old real machines will definitely become fewer and fewer, and even completely disappear (now it's almost the case). In the future, when we want to be nostalgic about DOS, we should all use emulators or virtual machines. So I think the support of XDVD2 for emulators is still very crucial. Especially PCem, which is almost the same as the real machine, because it is based on hardware - level simulation, simulating various motherboards (such as the very early IBM PC/XT), sound cards (even AWE32 is simulated), and graphics cards (from CGA to SVGA). I think PCem will definitely be the main force for nostalgic DOS, Win3X and Windows9X/Me and other old operating systems in the future!
I don't know what Jack, the author of XDVD2, is thinking. As an author, he should very much hope to improve his work. Being compatible with emulators should be easier than real machines. After all, real machines are various and it's hard to collect comprehensive information. There are only a few emulators, and once solved, it's a one - time solution, and it's more valuable for the future. Besides, there are already many kinds of hosts built - in PCem for him to test.
Nowadays, how many people are playing DOS? They are all hardcore fans. Just look at how deserted it is here. Everyone comes here because of a trace of sentiment and nostalgia for DOS. Do we still need to distinguish between real - machine faction and emulator faction?
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UMBPCI 也不支持Pcem中的430VX主板,但其它主板支持,不象XDVD2,PCem中所有的主板全都不能工作。 我联系了UMBPCI的作者,大佬二话不说,发给我个测试版,测试成功后,他很快出了3.88版:
V3.88
- Intel 430VX with PIIX2 (for PCem)
https://www.uwe-sieber.de/umbpci_e.html
UMBPCI doesn't support the 430VX motherboard in Pcem either, but other motherboards are supported. Unlike XDVD2, all motherboards in PCem don't work. I contacted the author of UMBPCI, and the great god sent me a test version without hesitation. After successful testing, he quickly released version 3.88:
V3.88
- Intel 430VX with PIIX2 (for PCem)
https://www.uwe-sieber.de/umbpci_e.html
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