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[公告]我已成功在DOS7.1和DOS8.0下运行Win95
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今天为了研究和制作MiniWin95,我安装了Win95A在C盘中。顺便试试看在MS-DOS 7.10下到底能不能运行Win95。大家知道,通常Win95是在不支持FAT32但支持大硬盘的的MS-DOS 7.0下运行的,所以这回我试试看它能不能在MS-DOS 7.10下运行。结果一试果然有效,在MS-DOS 7.10(Win98SE)下输入Win95的WIN后没有遇到任何麻烦就启动到了Win95桌面下!后来当我准备返回WinME时,由于MSDOS.SYS中winbootdir的路径被指到了Win95的路径下(后来当然已更正),结果当屏幕上出现WinME的开机LOGO后竟然直接启动到了Win95的桌面下!真是~~
不过有一点,不能指望在用MS-DOS 7.10、8.0启动Win95后,Win95能支持FAT32分区。事实上,由于Win95本身不支持FAT32分区,所以即使盘符已存在,而这个FAT32分区仍然无法访问呢~~
由此可见,不管是MS-DOS的哪个高版本,包括7.0、7.1、8.0全都是可以直接启动Win9x这个DOS程序的。这使我更加深刻的体会到,Win9x就是DOS下的GUI程序,没错吧??
Today, in order to study and make MiniWin95, I installed Win95A in the C drive. By the way, I tried to see if Win95 can run under MS-DOS 7.10. Everyone knows that usually Win95 runs under MS-DOS 7.0 which doesn't support FAT32 but supports large hard disks. So this time I tried to see if it can run under MS-DOS 7.10. The result is that it really works. Under MS-DOS 7.10 (Win98SE), entering WIN of Win95 started to the Win95 desktop without any trouble! Later, when I was going to return to WinME, because the path of winbootdir in MSDOS.SYS was pointed to the path of Win95 (which was corrected later), as a result, after the WinME boot logo appeared on the screen, it directly started to the Win95 desktop! Really~~
But there is one point. Don't expect that after starting Win95 with MS-DOS 7.10, 8.0, Win95 can support FAT32 partitions. In fact, because Win95 itself doesn't support FAT32 partitions, so even if the drive letter already exists, this FAT32 partition still cannot be accessed~~
From this, it can be seen that no matter which high version of MS-DOS, including 7.0, 7.1, 8.0, can directly start the Win9x DOS program. This makes me have a deeper understanding that Win9x is a GUI program under DOS, right??
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WIN95能在8.0下面运行吗?
Can WIN95 run under 8.0?
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以下是引用yiyesong在2003-6-27 8:16:22的发言:
WIN95能在8.0下面运行吗?
可以!!
MS-DOS 7.10下可以启动Win3.x、95、98的各种版本的任何模式,以及Me的“安全模式”。
MS-DOS 8.0下可以运行Win95、98、Me的任何模式,以及Win3.x的“标准模式”。
The following is a quote from yiyesong on 2003-6-27 8:16:22:
Can WIN95 run under 8.0?
Yes!
Under MS-DOS 7.10, various versions of Win3.x, 95, 98 in any mode, as well as "Safe Mode" of Me can be booted.
Under MS-DOS 8.0, any mode of Win95, 98, Me can be run, as well as "Standard Mode" of Win3.x.
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不过MSDOS8.0好多命令都是摆设,比如FORMAT,根本就不能用。
But many commands in MSDOS 8.0 are just for show, for example, FORMAT, which simply doesn't work.
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不要用dos8了。。。。。
Don't use dos8 anymore.
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DOS 8.0真的是....
DOS 8.0 is really....
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94嘛。。。MS-DOS 8.0还不如MS-DOS 7.10好用呢~~
Well, MS-DOS 8.0 is not as easy to use as MS-DOS 7.10~
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以下是引用Wengier在2003-6-27 8:12:55的发言:
由于Win95本身不支持FAT32分区,所以即使盘符已存在,而这个FAT32分区仍然无法访问呢~~
为什么不用WIN97(即WINDOWS 95 OSR2)呢?它可以很好的支持FAT32。
The following is a quote from Wengier on 2003-6-27 8:12:55:
Because Win95 itself does not support FAT32 partitions, so even if the drive letter already exists, this FAT32 partition still cannot be accessed~~
Why not use WIN97 (that is, WINDOWS 95 OSR2)? It can support FAT32 very well.
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dos8 没加patch点可以启动win32?
Can dos8 not add patch points can start win32?
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以下是引用savioler在2003-6-27 13:32:12的发言:
dos8 没加patch点可以启动win32?
如何patch那个DOS8的IO.SYS呢?它被压缩了,不太好patch呢。。
The following is a quote from savioler on 2003-6-27 13:32:12:
Can DOS8 start Win32 without patching?
How to patch that DOS8 IO.SYS? It's compressed, not easy to patch.
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以下是引用lydong在2003-6-27 13:08:27的发言:
为什么不用WIN97(即WINDOWS 95 OSR2)呢?它可以很好的支持FAT32。
斑竹可以考虑一下这个建议,尝试一下~~~
如果成功了,就可以把WIN97核心拿出来做迷你视窗系统了!98太大,我最小精简到70M以后就不能再稳定运行其他程序了~~~
The following is the statement quoted from lydong on 2003-6-27 13:08:27:
Why not use WIN97 (that is, WINDOWS 95 OSR2)? It can well support FAT32.
The moderator can consider this suggestion and give it a try~~~
If it is successful, the WIN97 core can be taken out to make a mini window system! 98 is too large, and after I minimized it to 70M at the minimum, it can no longer stably run other programs~~~
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以下是引用雨浪飘零在2003-6-27 23:45:14的发言:
以下是引用lydong在2003-6-27 13:08:27的发言:
为什么不用WIN97(即WINDOWS 95 OSR2)呢?它可以很好的支持FAT32。
斑竹可以考虑一下这个建议,尝试一下~~~
如果成功了,就可以把WIN97核心拿出来做迷你视窗系统了!98太大,我最小精简到70M以后就不能再稳定运行其他程序了~~~
好呀,我比较一下,然后选中一个最好的MiniWin9x来做吧。。估计就是MiniWin95B(97)了。
The following is a quote from Yulang Piaoling on 2003-6-27 23:45:14:
The following is a quote from lydong on 2003-6-27 13:08:27:
Why not use WIN97 (that is, WINDOWS 95 OSR2)? It can well support FAT32.
The moderator can consider this suggestion and give it a try~~~
If it succeeds, the WIN97 core can be taken out to make a mini window system! 98 is too big, and after I minimized it to 70M at the smallest, I can't run other programs stably anymore~~~
Good idea, I will compare and then select the best MiniWin9x to make it. It is estimated that it will be MiniWin95B (97).
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以下是引用savioler在2003-6-27 13:32:12的发言:
dos8 没加patch点可以启动win32?
你说的不是纯DOS8,而是WINME的那个启动前的DOS8,因为微软不让启动实模式的DOS,所以要打补丁。让它变成实模式,其实也就是加了个IFSHLP.SYS。
The following is a quote from savioler on 2003-6-27 13:32:12:
Can DOS8 start win32 without adding a patch?
What you are talking about is not pure DOS8, but the DOS8 before starting in WINME. Because Microsoft does not allow starting real-mode DOS, so you need to apply a patch. To make it real-mode, it is actually adding an IFSHLP.SYS.
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Wengier,能给个精简迷你Windows文件列表吗,也好让我分析分析?
Wengier, can you provide a streamlined and mini Windows file list so that I can analyze it?
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