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应该是x86架构,上面运行的系统是Windows Server 2003(32bit),不过,8G内存,只能用不到4G,剩下的4G就属于PAE范围了。
It should be the x86 architecture, and the system running on it is Windows Server 2003 (32bit). However, with 8GB of memory, less than 4GB can be used, and the remaining 4GB belongs to the PAE range.
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Originally posted by DOSforever at 2009-1-1 12:54:
我只用过 9.55 和 9.57 ,就是没用过 9.56 ,也没有超过 250G 的硬盘试,有人说可以,有人说不可以
http://cn-dos.net/forum/viewthread.php?tid=43540
反正9.xx的那几个对大硬盘兼容性确实不佳,据说最近又出了个,没用过不太清楚。<img src="images/smilies/face-smile-big.png" align="absmiddle" border="0">
现在>250G、320G的硬盘已经变得主流,还有很多是SATA硬盘,有些主板还没办法用IDE兼容模式,一些老的分区软件已经力不从心了。硬盘离2T的容量已经越来越近了,随着2T的突破,可能会淘汰不少的老系统、老软件,特别是老分区软件。
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Originally posted by DOSforever at 2009-1-1 12:54:
I have only used 9.55 and 9.57, just haven't used 9.56, and haven't tested with a hard drive exceeding 250G. Some say it's okay, some say it's not.
http://cn-dos.net/forum/viewthread.php?tid=43540
Anyway, the compatibility of the 9.xx versions with large hard drives is indeed not good. It is said that there is a new one recently, but I haven't used it and don't know clearly. :D
Now, hard drives larger than 250G, 320G, have become mainstream. There are also many SATA hard drives. Some motherboards still can't use IDE compatibility mode, and some old partition software is no longer up to the task. The capacity of hard drives is getting closer to 2T. With the breakthrough of 2T, many old systems and old software may be eliminated, especially old partition software.
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Originally posted by netwinxp at 2009-1-1 11:48 PM:
硬盘离2T的容量已经越来越近了,随着2T的突破,可能会淘汰不少的老系统、老软件,特别是老分区软件。
从目前情况来看,如果突破2TB后用GPT分区表,淘汰的可不只是老系统、老软件了。现在常用的分区软件没有一个支持guid分区表的,而目前的windows也只有基于IA-64或者EFI的x64才能从GPT的硬盘启动。因而要支持超过2TB的硬盘,可能连bios和32位windows版本都要淘汰,顺带16位dos也没了bios这个赖以生存的环境。
或许2TB硬盘这个门槛,可能使pc机出现很大改变,EFI和64位操作系统因此占主导。
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Originally posted by netwinxp at 2009-1-1 11:48 PM:
Hard drives are getting closer to the 2TB capacity. With the breakthrough of 2TB, many old systems and old software, especially old partitioning software, may be eliminated.
From the current situation, if the 2TB barrier is broken and GPT partition tables are used, it's not just old systems and old software that will be eliminated. None of the commonly used current partitioning software supports the GUID partition table, and currently, only Windows based on IA-64 or EFI x64 can boot from a GPT hard drive. Therefore, to support hard drives larger than 2TB, even BIOS and 32-bit Windows versions may need to be eliminated, and incidentally, 16-bit DOS will also lose the BIOS environment it relies on.
Perhaps the 2TB hard drive threshold may cause significant changes in PC machines, with EFI and 64-bit operating systems becoming dominant.
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呵呵,这帖子有趣,说着说着谈到整个 PC 的发展了。借此机会我也谈一下我一直以来的想法,简单的说一下:有时候我想我们真的需要这么大硬盘吗?当然这个我们指的就是普通的 PC 家庭用户,或者说电脑玩家。我们这些硬盘里都放着些什么?我看大部分占据空间的无非就是些数据,再具体点说无非就是些电影啦、歌曲啦、图片啦什么的文件,这些东西有必要长年累月地一直呆着吗?不知道各位如果把这些东西都删了再看一下自己的软件,包括游戏到底需要多大的空间,我不知道目前最大的游戏所需的空间是多少,几十个G总够了吧?这些数据文件其实真要长久保存的话刻到光盘上就是了,想看的时候再拿出来看看,一部电影,再经典的电影你总不会一天到晚都要看几遍吧。
所以,我一直想,任何事物都有个发展的极限或阶梯,到的一定的程度就就很难或者说不需要再发展了,比如,陆地上的汽车,包括比赛或专门为了破纪录用设计的汽车到了一定的速度就差不多了,再快就成了贴地飞机了,也没什么实用性;海里的军舰,几百年来发展到现在一般也就在30节左右,当然也可以再快些,但是得不偿失(小型舰艇除外),当然这指的是传统的排水型舰船,对非传统的船舶如气垫船、冲翼艇、气翼艇也是,实际上冲翼艇、气翼艇就可以近似看作贴地飞机;飞机也一样,传统的螺旋桨飞机最快也就1000km左右,传统的喷气式也就2M左右,再高的话发动机也要换了。
同样道理,PC 也是,我们真的会无限制要求容量吗?最初 PC 迅猛的发展那是因为当时的性能还不能满足人们的需要,当到了一定的程度的时候,我认为就不需要再发展了。你看,现在随便买一台 PC 都能满足日常需求。当然,事物总是在不断的发展的,新事物的出现不见得立即淘汰老的事物,因为老的有老的好处,比如,你出门旅游,做火车,那当然是蒸汽式的火车好,可以一边慢悠悠地用餐,一边突突突、突突突的欣赏风景。据说苏格兰有这样个地方,有机会真想去……
Hehe, this post is interesting, and as we talk, we get to the development of the entire PC. Taking this opportunity, I also talk about my thoughts all the time. Simply put: sometimes I think do we really need such a large hard drive? Of course, "we" here refers to ordinary PC home users or computer enthusiasts. What do we have in these hard drives? I see that most of the space occupied are just some data, more specifically, just some files like movies, songs, pictures, etc. Do these things need to stay there all the time? I don't know if you guys delete all these things and then look at how much space your software, including games, actually needs. I don't know what the largest game's space requirement is currently, but dozens of GB is enough. Actually, if these data files really need to be preserved for a long time, just burn them to a CD. You can take them out and watch them when you want. A movie, no matter how classic it is, you won't watch it several times a day.
So, I always think that everything has a limit or step of development. When it reaches a certain level, it's difficult or unnecessary to develop further. For example, cars on land, including cars designed for racing or breaking records, reach a certain speed and are almost there. Going faster would make them almost ground-effect planes, which have no practicality; warships in the sea, after hundreds of years of development, are generally around 30 knots now. Of course, they can go faster, but it's not worth it (except for small warships). Of course, this refers to traditional displacement ships. For non-traditional ships like air cushion ships, wing-in-ground effect ships, it's the same. In fact, wing-in-ground effect ships can be approximately regarded as ground-effect planes; the same goes for airplanes. Traditional propeller planes have a maximum speed of about 1000 km, traditional jet planes have about 2M, and if you go higher, the engine needs to be replaced.
By the same token, for PCs, will we really require unlimited capacity? Initially, the rapid development of PCs was because the performance at that time couldn't meet people's needs. When it reaches a certain level, I think there's no need to develop further. You see, now you can buy any PC and it can meet daily needs. Of course, things are always developing continuously. The emergence of new things doesn't necessarily immediately eliminate old things, because old things have their own advantages. For example, when you travel, taking a train, of course, a steam train is good. You can have a slow meal while enjoying the scenery with the "突突突" sound. It's said there's such a place in Scotland, and I really want to go if I get the chance...
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本人尚未解决的疑难问题:
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本人有幸,抛砖引玉!呵呵!
I am fortunate to take the lead in offering a simple example! Hehe!
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其实分区,最简单有效的办法就是用xp的故障恢复控制台,兼容性最高。至于raid控制器和scsi支持,只要在作出故障恢复控制台之前,先在安装盘里面添加驱动,做出来的故障恢复控制台就相应支持
In fact, the simplest and most effective way to partition is to use the XP Recovery Console, which has the highest compatibility. As for RAID controller and SCSI support, as long as you add the driver in the installation disc before making the Recovery Console, the made Recovery Console will support accordingly.
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我倒是希望硬盘越大越好,我现在160G的硬盘已经快放满了,而且,好多东西是无法刻盘的,主要是软件的光盘或者硬盘映像。再说了,光盘这东西,稳定性太差,速度也慢,我现在都不敢保证刻了张光盘,它能够用几次。
I actually hope the harder drive is as large as possible. My current 160G hard drive is almost full, and many things can't be burned to discs, mainly software CDs or hard drive images. Besides, discs are too unstable and slow. I can't even guarantee how many times a burned CD will work now.
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Originally posted by Climbing at 2009-1-5 02:14 PM:
我倒是希望硬盘越大越好,我现在160G的硬盘已经快放满了,而且,好多东西是无法刻盘的,主要是软件的光盘或者硬盘映像。再说了,光盘这东西,稳定性太差,速度也慢,我现在都不敢保证刻了张光盘,它能够用几次。
现在硬盘容量越来越大,价格越来越便宜,不过质量也大不如从前了。
这两天刚坏了个250GB的硬盘,还好数据全救出来了。
Originally posted by Climbing at 2009-1-5 02:14 PM:
I actually hope the harder drive is as large as possible. My current 160GB hard drive is almost full, and there are many things that can't be burned to discs, mainly software discs or hard drive images. Besides, discs are too unstable and slow. I can't even guarantee how many times a burned disc can be used now.
Now the hard drive capacity is getting larger and larger, and the price is getting cheaper and cheaper, but the quality is much worse than before.
I just broke a 250GB hard drive these two days, fortunately, all the data was recovered.
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相对来说,还是raid5更让人放心一些。
我习惯使用虚拟光驱直接打开软件光盘来使用,我说过了,光盘这东西,刻起来也慢,读起来也慢,而且还不保险。感觉上,还是硬盘牢靠一些。不过你要是真碰上几天就坏的硬盘,只能说是RPWT了,另外,我的经验是:保证电源的质量对硬盘的寿命大有好处,例如:给机器接上在线UPS。另外一个经验是:将重要的数据多备几份儿。再参考DOSForever的处理原则,将那些没大用的东西刻盘保留。
Relatively speaking, RAID5 is still more reassuring.
I'm used to using a virtual CD-ROM to directly open software discs for use. I've said it before, discs take a long time to burn and read, and they're not reliable. It feels that hard drives are more reliable. But if you really encounter a hard drive that breaks in a few days, it can only be said to be bad luck. Also, my experience is: ensuring the quality of the power supply is very beneficial to the lifespan of the hard drive. For example, connect an online UPS to the machine. Another experience is: make multiple backups of important data. Also refer to the processing principles of DOSForever, and burn and keep those things that are not very useful.
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太牛了,都能搞服务器,钦佩。
That's amazing, you can even set up a server, I admire it.
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Originally posted by Qtwdftxvt at 2009-1-6 09:51 PM:
太牛了,都能搞服务器,钦佩。
可看到结束,好像楼主的问题还没有解决,有意义吗,这帖??
Originally posted by Qtwdftxvt at 2009-1-6 09:51 PM:
So awesome, you can even set up a server, admire.
Can see the end, it seems the owner's problem hasn't been solved yet, is this thread meaningful??
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问题解决了,我量产了一个光盘版的系统盘,能在下面进行一系列操作!谢谢大家!光盘能有效的解决SATA问题!DM也能用了!
The problem is solved. I mass-produced a CD version of the system disk and can perform a series of operations below! Thank you everyone! The CD can effectively solve the SATA problem! DM can also be used!
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只要BIOS支持,DM957就支持120G以上的硬盘,但不知能否支持320G以上的硬盘.
As long as the BIOS supports it, DM957 supports hard drives larger than 120GB, but I don't know if it can support hard drives larger than 320GB.
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