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请教:怎样找回不小心删除的文件?
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在操作环境下,文件被别人不小心已经进行物理删除,用DOS能不能把删除的文件找回来?怎么做才能做到。
Under the operating environment, if a file has been physically deleted by someone else by accident, can DOS retrieve the deleted file? How to do it.
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Re wgh984125:
你没有指明所使用的操作环境,我对“物理删除”一说存有疑问,是指按住Shift直接删除,还是从回收站删除,或者其它。
需要指明的是,在Windows下删除的程序,虽然有可能在DOS下恢复,但是我仍建议使用Windows下的数据恢复软件,比如 FinalData,RecoveryNT 等等,而在DOS下可以用图形界面的 EasyRecovery 等。
另外,为了本区的版面整洁,请将另一重复的主题删除。
Re wgh984125:
You didn't specify the operating environment you're using, and I have doubts about the term "physical deletion." Does it refer to deleting while holding down Shift, emptying the Recycle Bin, or something else.
It should be noted that programs deleted under Windows may possibly be recovered under DOS, but I still suggest using data recovery software under Windows, such as FinalData, RecoveryNT, etc., and under DOS, you can use the graphical interface EasyRecovery, etc.
Also, to keep the board tidy, please delete the other duplicate thread.
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wgh984125
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好的,我试一下你提供的软件。我认为物理删除就是在回收站里面被清空了的,不管你是用什么方法的删除。如果不对,请指教。
Okay, I'll try the software you provided. I think physical deletion means being emptied in the recycle bin, no matter what method you use to delete. If it's incorrect, please give me advice.
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我的观点是:物理删除就是全部置零或置1了。应该没有办法恢复的……
My view is: Physical deletion is to set all to zero or one. There should be no way to recover...
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没错.
对于一般用户(甚至包括绝大部分计算机人士)没有所谓的物理删除!
只是在WIN下清空或在DOS下DEL 或DELTREE的,这种情况只是把文件名的第一个字符改成了E5H. 其簇链相应的被置为可写.
要进行"物理的"删除应该是用清零软件清零.这样就无论如何也无法恢复了!
Yes. For general users (including even most computer professionals), there is no so-called physical deletion! It's just that in WIN, it's emptied, or in DOS, it's DEL or DELTREE. In such cases, only the first character of the file name is changed to E5H, and the corresponding cluster chain is set to writable. To perform "physical" deletion, one should use a zeroing software to zero it out. Then, it can never be recovered in any way!
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Re GOTOmsdos:
>要进行"物理的"删除应该是用清零软件清零.这样就无论如何也无法恢复了
这也未必,现在的数据恢复领域有所谓的“深层恢复”,便是恢复被覆盖的数据。
链接如下: 寻找丢失的记忆——深入电脑数据恢复3
这里我想聊聊对于数据不幸被覆盖后的恢复——深层数据恢复。有位业内人士写信更正我,说国内早就有了深层恢复设备——弱磁读取机。其实这应该是一种误解,弱磁读取设备是指那些能够读取微弱磁信号的设备。譬如一个硬盘用火烧过或从几十米的高处扔到地上,经过高温或强烈震荡,盘片上的磁介质磁力指向发生混乱,通过磁头正常读取已不可能读到数字信息了。这时就需用到弱磁读取设备,通过精确读取混乱后的磁信号,排除掉磁矩系数不同的干扰信息,精确提取出原来的、有固定磁矩系数的0或1的磁信号。这样的设备国内确实有,但还不能对被覆盖的数据进行恢复。因为在数据被覆盖情况下,原有的数据和覆盖上去的数据都拥有相同的磁矩系数,同样都是0或1的数字信号,对于弱磁读取设备来说,只能看到覆盖上去的新数据,无法分辨出其中被覆盖的数据。不能说弱磁读取的难度和所需的技术不高,因为要在经过剧烈碰撞下发生磁信息紊乱的磁盘上,分辨出什么是有用信息、什么是无用信息非常困难。按照目前的技术,弱磁恢复的成功率和数据完整性是非常低的。不过,如果是录像带、录音带这类的模拟信息,那么即使有很多干扰的磁信息,也还是能看到或听到一个大概,顶多就是像看电视时接收不好,电视画面里满是雪花而已。
深层数据恢复受到很多条件的限制,跟很多其他因素相关联,但是让我们暂时撇开所有其他因素,回到磁介质这个根源,就会发现深层数据恢复基于这样一个原理:即一个原来拥有0信号的磁介质晶体,被写入1的信号后(这里假定这个磁介质晶体是晶体A),跟一个原来是1信号,同样被写入一个新的1信号的磁晶体是不同的(这里假定这个磁介质晶体是晶体B)。虽然两者在磁头读取的情况下,读取到的都是1的信号,但在借助另外一些手段来检测的情况下,会发现其中确实有点不同。我们都知道,带电的粒子在磁场里会发生偏转这个物理现象。同时,我们可假设有一个带电粒子,从上而下打进硬盘的盘片,这时,有3种情况发生:第一,粒子穿过盘片;第二,粒子被反弹回去;第三,粒子留在了盘片里。那么,结合上面说的两种现象,如果我们用一种带电粒子,甚至用几种不同的带电粒子,分别去打击晶体A和晶体B,会产生什么样的情况呢?最后的结果是否会有所不同?这个前提条件是必须找到合适的粒子种类,让它们在击中不同的晶体后能产生足够明显的不同反馈现象。另外,我们也知道,射线在从某个密度的介质进入另外一个不同密度的介质中时,会发生折射和反射现象。正是利用了这种现象,实验人员可通过设计出一个特定的空间,在其中分别充满了一些不同密度的介质,让射线通过介质的时候产生折射,像放大镜一样把射线微小的变化放大,以便于仪器捕捉其中的差异。当然,这只是一个非常纯粹的、剥掉所有其他因素而构造的理论模型,在实际中是不可能存在的。所以这里说的跟实际的情况有很大不同,大家也不要期望这么简单就可生产出深层恢复的仪器,“高手”们也不要在这里抬杠了。
现在,要解决深层恢复的问题,主要的难度有两个。第一,通常,要探测到磁介质晶体足够深度的信息,就需要穿透能力比较强的粒子,但非常矛盾的是,通常穿透能力强的粒子都不容易被干扰和涉动,而且也不易被仪器捕捉到,这就为观察带来了困难。打个极端的比方:中微子的穿透能力非常强,可轻而易举地穿透整个地球,但正是因为它的穿透能力太强了,目前的任何科学技术手段,都无法确保能在限定的时间内有效地捕抓到中微子。第二,要区分有效的反馈信息和无效的反馈信息并不像想象的那样容易,其中牵涉到非常多的问题。譬如制作磁盘的物质、磁介质种类等,要经过反复实验才能确定所需要的有效特征信息。以上所说的这些,就是深层恢复的基本理论依据。
如果我们假设现在可观察到擦写两次后的数据,那么,由于每个晶体的情况不是0就是1,就会出现2的3次方,即8种可能。
情况一 情况二 情况三 情况四 情况五 情况六 情况七 情况八
第二次擦写 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1
第一次擦写 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 1
原始信号 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1
我们只需锁定这8种不同情况下的反馈现象,那么不管磁晶体信号是否受到其他干扰,只要出现了8种情况中的一种,就对应着一种确定的数字信息。通过一次全盘的扫描,记录下全部的数字信息,经过顺序排列,就产生了整个磁盘的数据信号列表。假设信息排列如下
晶体1信号 晶体2信号 晶体3信号 晶体4信号 晶体5信号 晶体6信号 ……
第二次擦写 1 1 0 1 0 0 ……
第一次擦写 0 0 0 1 1 0 ……
最原始信息 1 1 0 0 0 1 ……
那样,只要全部串起来,就等于通过一次扫描得到了磁盘上三层的数据。至于如何把这些0和1还原成有用的数据,那就要通过软件,用算法还原了。算法越好,还原的程度就越高。
Re GOTOmsdos:
>To perform a "physical" deletion, you should use a zeroing software to zero it out. In this way, it can never be recovered no matter what.
This is not necessarily the case. In the current data recovery field, there is something called "deep recovery", which is to recover overwritten data.
The link is as follows: Finding Lost Memories - In-depth Computer Data Recovery 3
Here I would like to talk about the recovery after the unfortunate data overwrite - deep data recovery. A person in the industry wrote to correct me, saying that there have long been deep recovery devices in China - weak magnetic reading machines. In fact, this should be a misunderstanding. The weak magnetic reading device refers to those devices that can read weak magnetic signals. For example, a hard drive is burned or thrown from a height of tens of meters to the ground. After high temperature or strong shock, the magnetic medium magnetic direction on the disk platter is chaotic. It is impossible to read digital information normally through the magnetic head. At this time, a weak magnetic reading device is needed. By accurately reading the chaotic magnetic signals, the interference information with different magnetic moment coefficients is excluded, and the original 0 or 1 magnetic signals with fixed magnetic moment coefficients are accurately extracted. Such devices do exist in China, but they cannot recover overwritten data. Because in the case of data overwrite, the original data and the overwritten data have the same magnetic moment coefficient, both are 0 or 1 digital signals. For the weak magnetic reading device, it can only see the new data that is overwritten, and cannot distinguish the overwritten data. It cannot be said that the difficulty and required technology of weak magnetic reading are not high, because it is very difficult to distinguish what is useful information and what is useless information on a disk that has undergone violent collision and has magnetic information disorder. According to the current technology, the success rate and data integrity of weak magnetic recovery are very low. However, for analog information such as video tapes and audio tapes, even if there are many interfering magnetic information, you can still see or hear a general idea, at most it is like when watching TV with poor reception, and the TV screen is full of snowflakes.
Deep data recovery is restricted by many conditions and is related to many other factors. But let's temporarily set aside all other factors and return to the root of the magnetic medium, and we will find that deep data recovery is based on such a principle: that is, a magnetic medium crystal that originally had a 0 signal, after being written with a 1 signal (here, assume that this magnetic medium crystal is crystal A), is different from a magnetic crystal that was originally a 1 signal and was also written with a new 1 signal (here, assume that this magnetic medium crystal is crystal B). Although both are read as 1 signals by the magnetic head, when detected by some other means, it will be found that there are indeed some differences. We all know that a charged particle will deflect in a magnetic field. At the same time, we can assume that there is a charged particle that enters the disk platter from top to bottom. At this time, there are 3 situations: first, the particle passes through the platter; second, the particle is bounced back; third, the particle stays in the platter. Then, combined with the above two phenomena, if we use a charged particle, or even several different charged particles, to strike crystal A and crystal B respectively, what kind of situation will occur? Will the final result be different? The premise is that the appropriate type of particle must be found, so that they can produce sufficiently obvious different feedback phenomena after hitting different crystals. In addition, we also know that when a ray enters another different density medium from a certain density medium, refraction and reflection phenomena will occur. It is using this phenomenon that experimental personnel can design a specific space, in which some media with different densities are filled respectively, so that the ray produces refraction when passing through the medium, and magnifies the slight change of the ray like a magnifying glass, so that the instrument can capture the difference. Of course, this is a very pure theoretical model constructed by stripping off all other factors, and it is impossible to exist in practice. So this is very different from the actual situation, and everyone should not expect to produce a deep recovery instrument so easily, and "experts" should not argue here.
Now, there are two main difficulties in solving the problem of deep recovery. First, generally, to detect the information at a sufficient depth of the magnetic medium crystal, a particle with relatively strong penetration ability is needed. But very paradoxically, generally, particles with strong penetration ability are not easy to be interfered and moved, and are not easy to be captured by the instrument, which brings difficulties to observation. To give an extreme example: the penetration ability of a neutrino is very strong, and it can easily penetrate the entire earth. But precisely because its penetration ability is too strong, currently no scientific and technological means can ensure that the neutrino can be effectively captured within a limited time. Second, it is not as easy as imagined to distinguish effective feedback information from invalid feedback information, and it involves many problems. For example, the material for making the disk, the type of magnetic medium, etc., need to be determined through repeated experiments to obtain the required effective characteristic information. The above are the basic theoretical bases for deep recovery.
If we assume that we can observe the data after being erased and written twice now, then, since the situation of each crystal is either 0 or 1, there will be 2 to the power of 3, that is, 8 possibilities.
Case 1 Case 2 Case 3 Case 4 Case 5 Case 6 Case 7 Case 8
Second erase and write 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1
First erase and write 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 1
Original signal 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1
We only need to lock the feedback phenomena in these 8 different situations. Then, no matter whether the magnetic crystal signal is interfered by other factors, as long as one of the 8 situations occurs, it corresponds to a certain digital information. Through a full-disk scan, record all digital information, and after sequential arrangement, the data signal list of the entire disk is generated. Assume that the information is arranged as follows
Crystal 1 signal Crystal 2 signal Crystal 3 signal Crystal 4 signal Crystal 5 signal Crystal 6 signal ……
Second erase and write 1 1 0 1 0 0 ……
First erase and write 0 0 0 1 1 0 ……
Original most information 1 1 0 0 0 1 ……
In that case, as long as all are strung together, it is equivalent to obtaining three layers of data on the disk through one scan. As for how to restore these 0s and 1s into useful data, it is then necessary to use software and restore it with an algorithm. The better the algorithm, the higher the restoration degree.
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