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雨露
管理员
          DOS非常爱好者
积分 6209
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现在删贴后不会扣除积分了是吗?
使用 LLM 解释/回答一下
看到论坛上有部分会员发贴数与积分不相符,都是发贴很少的人!(多了的也看不出来) 
是不是现在被删贴后不会扣除积分了!是吗?只能这样解释了!
还发现有部分老会员积分有2000-3000分的还是“注册会员”,看来是开坛元老了,从旧论坛过来的,只是现在不来这里了!
论坛能不能这样设置一下:
向3-6个月的不来论坛露脸的会员自动发个e-mail通知:“过期不来就注销会员资格”!以提高其积极性!
I see that some members in the forum have an inconsistent number of posts and points. They are people who have posted very few times! (Can't tell about the ones with more posts) :D
Is it that points are no longer deducted after a post is deleted now! Is that right? Only this can explain it! ;)
I also noticed that some old members with 2000-3000 points are still "Registered Members". It seems they are founding members who came from the old forum, but just don't come here now!
Can the forum set it up like this:
Automatically send an e-mail to members who haven't shown up in the forum for 3-6 months saying: "If you don't come for a long time, your membership will be canceled"! To increase their enthusiasm!
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weilong888
银牌会员
    
积分 1270
发帖 548
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『第 2 楼』:
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DOS是自由的,还是自由的好,注销它有什么意思?也许人家忙了6个月,想来逛一下,发现原来的注册没有了,很扫兴的。这东西主要还是兴趣问题,感兴趣了就会来,不感兴趣了,你就是给他一个超级用户ID,也不见得会提高他的积极性。
DOS is free, and it's better to be free. What's the point of canceling it? Maybe someone has been busy for 6 months and wants to come and take a look, only to find that the original registration is gone, which is very disappointing. This thing mainly depends on interest. If you are interested, you will come; if you are not interested, even if you give him a super user ID, it may not increase his enthusiasm.
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Scott0902
中级用户
  
积分 466
发帖 237
注册 2005-10-12
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『第 3 楼』:
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我倒是觉得这论坛的等级没什么用,我以前曾是“新手上路”,也一样可以下载附件、全文搜索,现在我的等级也提高了,可不见得有什么优待。3-6个月不来就注销ID很不好吧,2楼的兄弟也说了。
I actually think the forum's level isn't very useful. I used to be "Newcomer" and could still download attachments and do full-text searches. Now that my level has increased, there aren't really any privileges. It's not good that IDs get注销ed if you don't come for 3-6 months. The brother on the 2nd floor also said that.
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雨露
管理员
          DOS非常爱好者
积分 6209
发帖 2598
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看仔细了!我可没有说"3-6个月不来就注销ID",我说得是发通知!而且这也是我的个人意见而已!说说嘛,当不得真!
如果一个人一年不来,以后来的可能性很小了,当初创建论坛时注册的很多重量级的会员许多都不来了,很可惜呀,DOS毕竟比不得Windows!这也没有什么好奇怪的!个人感觉好像现在的论坛热闹(门)的时期已过去了,留下的只是个人爱好!
将来新的主板技术,新的系统,新的硬件.....新的东东都不支持DOS了,我们怎么办,?
要是微软当初没有当机立断,决定淘汰DOS,发展windows,现在的霸主地位就不是它了!
Look carefully! I didn't say "cancel the ID if you don't come for 3-6 months", I said send a notice! And this is just my personal opinion! Just talk about it, don't take it seriously! If a person doesn't come for a year, the possibility of coming later is very small. Many of the many heavyweight members registered when the forum was created don't come anymore, which is a pity. After all, DOS can't compare with Windows! This is not surprising! I personally feel that the lively period of the current forum has passed, and what's left is personal hobby! In the future, new motherboard technologies, new systems, new hardware... new things don't support DOS anymore, what should we do? If Microsoft hadn't made a decisive decision to eliminate DOS and develop Windows back then, it wouldn't be the dominant position it is now!
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Wengier
系统支持
             “新DOS时代”站长
积分 27736
发帖 10521
注册 2002-10-9
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『第 5 楼』:
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如果是删除帖子的话,积分当然是会被扣除的。不过如果是删除整个主题的话,后面跟帖的用户的积分可能不会受到影响。。
If it is deleting a post, the points will of course be deducted. However, if it is deleting the entire thread, the points of the users who followed later may not be affected.
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Wengier - 新DOS时代
欢迎大家来到我的“新DOS时代”网站,里面有各类DOS软件和资料,地址:
http://wendos.mycool.net/
E-Mail & MSN: wengierwu AT hotmail.com (最近比较忙,有事请联系DOSroot和雨露,谢谢!)
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Michael
钻石会员
       
积分 10046
发帖 3039
注册 2002-11-11
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『第 6 楼』:
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积分,等级什么的对我们的论坛来说几乎无任何意义,除我们以外,向全体会员开放全文搜索的论坛有几家?
weilong老兄说得对,全凭兴趣。
Points and levels mean almost nothing to our forum. How many forums open full-text search to all members besides us?
Brother weilong is right, it's all about interest.
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DOSforever
金牌会员
     
积分 4639
发帖 2239
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『第 7 楼』:
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如果影响论坛效率的话我倒认为可以考虑删除一些ID,可以考虑一下这些情况:
一是用注册机注册的专门用来发广告帖子的ID
二是有些人一时性起注册后就没来过。还有些人很长时间没来了,别说密码了,连自己的用户名都忘了,这样的ID可以说今后永远不会被使用了。特别是论坛改版后可能有不少用户没能正确转换密码,导致密码无效而无法登录了。这也导致了以下冗余ID产生原因之一,所以该用户不得不又注册了个ID。另一个原因是有些用户注册后由于某些原因登录不上,就又反复注册,比如“seazy03”所说的《为何我每注册一个用户名都只能用上几天》
上次我记得在讨论论坛改版问题的时候好象“llm”提到过要删除一些用户名的事情。其实我也一直想讨论这件事。从某种角度来说最好一个用户名都不要删,但从论坛的效率和负担来说太多的冗余ID和垃圾帖子又会导致其服务性能下降,况且我们论坛又是开放全文搜索功能的。《电脑报》读者论坛现在已经规定超过六个月未使用的ID将被注销。当然,那里的流量不是我们能比的。
到我回此贴为止,根据论坛的统计
注册会员数: 57835
发帖会员: 15594
未发帖会员: 42241
发帖会员占总数 26.96%
也就是即使把只发过一贴的会员也考虑在内,论坛活跃的会员(其实应该说是用户名)只有四分之一多一点。
我认为,如果现对论坛程序的执行效率影响很大的话,可以考虑删除一些空壳ID,比如注册后从未发过言甚至从未登录过的用户名,当然时间可以放长一些,比如一年甚至两年以上,其产生的原因如上所述。我倒认为删除这些用户名没什么,对一个从未发过言的用户,当他再次来论坛的时候发觉不能登录了,那他再注册一次他所喜欢的用户名对他来说没什么损失。对一个已经忘掉自己用户名或/和密码的用户来说,他自己本来也要重新注册一个,你把他原来的删了,他又可以用自己喜欢的用户名注册了,说不定他还感谢你呢,呵呵。不过有一点我倒是担心的,假如删除了一个已经发过言的用户名,那他的发贴/回帖还能保留吗?还是可以选择是否保留?假如不能保留的话那就太遗憾了,因为他的帖子中可能含有有价值,值得保留的内容。如果是这样的话,那么删除某个用户名就要慎重了。
如果现阶段这些冗余和空壳ID对论坛的负担不是很大的话,那么暂且放着,今后再处理也不迟。
If it affects the efficiency of the forum, I think we can consider deleting some IDs. We can consider the following situations:
First, IDs registered with registration machines that are specifically used to post advertising posts.
Second, some people registered on a whim and never came back. There are also some people who haven't come for a long time. Not to mention the password, they even forgot their own username. Such IDs can be said to will never be used in the future. Especially after the forum was redesigned, many users may not have correctly converted their passwords, resulting in invalid passwords and being unable to log in. This is also one of the reasons for the generation of such redundant IDs, so the user has to register another ID. Another reason is that some users can't log in for some reason after registering, so they repeatedly register. For example, "seazy03" mentioned in "Why can I only use each username for a few days".
Last time I remember that when discussing the forum redesign issue, "llm" seemed to mention the matter of deleting some usernames. In fact, I have always wanted to discuss this matter. From a certain perspective, it is best not to delete any usernames, but from the perspective of the forum's efficiency and burden, too many redundant IDs and spam posts will lead to a decline in its service performance. Moreover, our forum also has the full-text search function enabled. The "Computer Post" reader forum has now stipulated that IDs that have not been used for more than six months will be注销. Of course, the traffic there is not something we can compare with.
Up to the time I replied to this post, according to the forum statistics:
Number of registered members: 57835
Members who posted: 15594
Members who did not post: 42241
Members who posted account for 26.96% of the total
That is to say, even if we consider members who have only posted one post, there are only a little more than a quarter of active members (actually, it should be said to be usernames) in the forum.
I think that if it has a great impact on the execution efficiency of the forum program at present, we can consider deleting some hollow IDs, such as usernames that have never posted or even never logged in after registration. Of course, the time can be longer, such as one year or even two years or more. The reasons for their generation are as mentioned above. I actually think it's okay to delete these usernames. For a user who has never posted, when he comes to the forum again and finds that he can't log in, he can register his favorite username again, and it won't be a loss for him. For a user who has forgotten his username or/and password, he himself has to register a new one. If you delete his original one, he can register with his favorite username again. Maybe he will thank you, hehe. But there is one thing I am worried about. If a username that has posted is deleted, will his posts/replies still be retained? Or can we choose whether to retain them? If they can't be retained, it's too regrettable because there may be valuable content in his posts that is worth retaining. If that's the case, then deleting a certain username should be done carefully.
If these redundant and hollow IDs don't put too much burden on the forum at the present stage, then we can put them aside for now and deal with them later.
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DOS倒下了,但永远不死
DOS NEVER DIES !
投票调查:
http://www.cn-dos.net/forum/viewthread.php?tid=46187
本人尚未解决的疑难问题:
http://www.cn-dos.net/forum/viewthread.php?tid=15135
http://www.cn-dos.net/forum/viewthread.php?tid=47663
http://www.cn-dos.net/forum/viewthread.php?tid=48747 |
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不得不爱
超级版主
         我爱DOS
积分 5310
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『第 8 楼』:
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Originally posted by Wengier at 2006-7-2 01:08:
如果是删除帖子的话,积分当然是会被扣除的。不过如果是删除整个主题的话,后面跟帖的用户的积分可能不会受到影响。。
更正1下:
如果是删除帖子的话,积分当然是会被扣除的。删除整个主题的话,后面跟帖的用户的积分也会受到影响,每贴被删除都会扣除2分。
如果是删除主题帖子的话,发主题者在扣除了2分后它照样会得到6-2=4分!
Originally posted by Wengier at 2006-7-2 01:08:
If the post is deleted, the points will of course be deducted. However, if the entire thread is deleted, the points of the users who replied later may not be affected..
Correct 1:
If the post is deleted, the points will of course be deducted. If the entire thread is deleted, the points of the users who replied later will also be affected, and 2 points will be deducted for each deleted post.
If the thread post is deleted, the user who started the thread will still get 6 - 2 = 4 points after deducting 2 points!
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我的网络U盘 我的网络第2个U盘
论坛软件下载链接
灵雨飘零论坛
论坛新手必读,所有人的基本行为准则
刷QQ空间人气、留言的小软件 |
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namejm
荣誉版主
       batch fan
积分 5226
发帖 1737
注册 2006-3-10 来自 成都
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『第 9 楼』:
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看来删帖对积分的影响的漏洞还是挺大的呀,搞得我现在都不敢轻易动用删除权了,以免一删就影响一大片,有点郁闷。
建议站长或者管理员出来解释一下删帖对楼主和各跟帖用户积分的影响,毕竟权威的解释才会让我们心里有底,没出权威解释对论坛的管理不太方便。
It seems that there is still a big loophole in the impact of deleting posts on points, which makes me dare not easily use the delete right now, for fear that deleting one will affect a large number, a bit depressed.
It is suggested that the webmaster or administrator come out to explain the impact of deleting posts on the points of the original poster and all the following users. After all, an authoritative explanation will make us feel at ease. Without an authoritative explanation, it is not convenient for the forum management.
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weilong888
银牌会员
    
积分 1270
发帖 548
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『第 10 楼』:
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不敢删就不要删了。不行的话,把贴子移到灌水区算了。
If you don't dare to delete it, then don't delete it. If it's not possible, just move the post to the water-cooling area.
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雨露
管理员
          DOS非常爱好者
积分 6209
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『第 11 楼』:
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我用广告贴作试验,发现删除主题后跟贴的也会被扣除2分.qwe1234567版主说得对!
I used an advertisement post for testing and found that when a topic is deleted, the replies are also deducted 2 points. What the moderator qwe1234567 said is correct!
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雨露
管理员
          DOS非常爱好者
积分 6209
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『第 12 楼』:
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Originally posted by namejm at 2006-10-9 00:02:
看来删帖对积分的影响的漏洞还是挺大的呀,搞得我现在都不敢轻易动用删除权了,以免一删就影响一大片,有点郁闷。
建议站长或者管砮..
版主:你好,下次有广告贴就留给你了!<img src="images/smilies/face-smile-big.png" align="absmiddle" border="0">
Originally posted by namejm at 2006-10-9 00:02:
It seems that there is still a big loophole in the impact of deleting posts on points, which makes me dare not easily use the delete right now, for fear that one deletion will affect a large area, a bit depressed.
Suggest the webmaster or administrator..
Moderator: Hello, next time there is an advertisement post, I will leave it to you! :D
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不得不爱
超级版主
         我爱DOS
积分 5310
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fastslz
铂金会员
       DOS一根葱
积分 5493
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雨露
管理员
          DOS非常爱好者
积分 6209
发帖 2598
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『第 15 楼』:
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qwe1234567版主:没有看通告呀?就今天一天呀,明天就恢复正常!
Moderator qwe1234567: Didn't you read the announcement? It's only today! It will return to normal tomorrow!
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