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2006-05-14 第二版
1、为了维护 DOS批处理 & 脚本技术(批处理室)版块秩序,同时方便用户查阅和版主管理,特制定本版规;
2、本版主要讨论DOS/Windows或其他环境下所有与脚本语言的教学、研究和应用相关的主题。主要包含以下类型:
2-1、DOS/Win9x所支持的批处理脚本;
2-2、Win2000/WinXP/Win2003等CMD下的NT命令脚本;
2-3、debug/edlin/qbasic/cscript/ftp等系统内置工具的支持的脚本;
2-4、4DOS/awk/sed等第三方软件及其所支持的脚本;
2-5、在本论坛没有相关讨论版块的其他环境或平台下所支持的脚本;
3、在本版发表新主题时,其标题鼓励采用“主题内容概述”的体例。
3-1、指主题的类别,有以下范例可以选择:
3-1-1、:主题内容全部或主要部分为发表者个人编写、创作的;
3-1-2、:主题内容全部或主要部分为转述、转贴、转载他人的;
3-1-3、:主题内容主要为探讨问题并给出部分答案的;
3-1-4、:主题首帖主要为寻求问题答案或帮助的;
3-1-5、:主题回复中已经解决主题首帖中的相关问题或完成相关任务的;
3-1-6、其它标记将逐步淘汰,比如:、、、等;
3-2、指主题所涉及的系统或平台环境,有以下范例可以选择:
3-2-1、:指MS-DOS所有版本以及Win98的DOS模式;
3-2-2、:指Windows95/98/ME等9X系统下的命令行方式;
3-2-3、:指WindowsNT/2000/XP/2003等NT系统下的命令行环境;
3-3-4、:指以上所有系统或平台的兼容性环境;
3-2-5、:指debug/edlin/qbasic/cscript/ftp/4DOS/awk/sed等脚本支持环境;
3-2-6、特殊的系统或平台环境可以增加特殊标记,比如表示适用于XP及以上,表示不包括ME;
3-3、主题内容概述应尽可能简洁而且准确,其长度应控制在20个汉字或60个英文字符以内;
4、当本版规与《中国DOS联盟章程》和《论坛新手必读,所有人的基本行为准则》为隶属关系,是它们的扩展和补充;若本版规的某项或某些条款与它们相抵触,则即被认定为无效条款;
5、本版规草稿由版主 willsort 制定,在本版内讨论、修改与补充,经所有版主通过后正式生效,其最终解释权归论坛管理层所有。
2006-05-14 Second Edition
1、To maintain the order of the DOS Batch & Script Technology (Batch Processing Room) section and facilitate users' browsing and moderators' management, these section rules are specially formulated;
2、This section mainly discusses all topics related to the teaching, research, and application of scripting languages in DOS/Windows or other environments. It mainly includes the following types:
2-1、Batch scripts supported by DOS/Win9x;
2-2、NT command scripts under CMD in Win2000/WinXP/Win2003, etc.;
2-3、Scripts supported by system-built-in tools such as debug/edlin/qbasic/cscript/ftp;
2-4、Third-party software such as 4DOS/awk/sed and scripts supported by them;
2-5、Scripts supported in other environments or platforms without relevant discussion sections in this forum;
3、When posting a new topic in this section, it is encouraged to use the format " Summary of Topic Content".
3-1、 refers to the category of the topic, and the following examples can be selected:
3-1-1、: The main content of the topic is written or created by the poster;
3-1-2、: The main content of the topic is rephrased, reposted, or reprinted from others;
3-1-3、: The main content of the topic is to discuss problems and give some answers;
3-1-4、: The first post of the topic is mainly to seek answers or help for problems;
3-1-5、: The related problems or tasks in the first post of the topic have been solved in the replies;
3-1-6、Other marks will be phased out gradually, such as , , , etc.;
3-2、 refers to the system or platform environment involved in the topic, and the following examples can be selected:
3-2-1、: Refers to all versions of MS-DOS and the DOS mode of Win98;
3-2-2、: Refers to the command line mode under 9X systems such as Windows95/98/ME;
3-2-3、: Refers to the command line environment under NT systems such as WindowsNT/2000/XP/2003;
3-3-4、: Refers to the compatibility environment of all the above systems or platforms;
3-2-5、: Refers to script support environments such as debug/edlin/qbasic/cscript/ftp/4DOS/awk/sed;
3-2-6、Special system or platform environments can add special marks, such as means applicable to XP and above, means excluding ME;
3-3、The summary of the topic content should be as concise and accurate as possible, and the length should be controlled within 20 Chinese characters or 60 English characters;
4、When these section rules are subordinate to the "China DOS Union Constitution" and "Forum Newcomer Must-read, Basic Behavior Guidelines for Everyone", they are extensions and supplements of them; if any term or terms of these section rules conflict with them, they are deemed invalid terms;
5、The draft of these section rules is formulated by moderator willsort, discussed, modified, and supplemented in this section, and comes into force formally after being approved by all moderators. The final interpretation right belongs to the forum management.
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支持先,最希望的就是大家发贴的时候在主题中最好注明运行环境以及相关脚本解释器,如果能形成一种固定的格式就更好了。比如:
vbs:如何用vbs进行数据库相关操作?[windows xp sp2]
Support first, the most hoped is that everyone when posting, it is best to indicate the running environment and related script interpreters in the subject. If it can form a fixed format, it will be better. For example:
vbs: How to perform database-related operations with vbs?
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to willsort:
我细看了两遍,觉得你原创的版规虽是草稿,但已相当完善了,我支持,并暂时没有任何补充了!只是个人觉得应该在"标题:"栏后增加相应的明显的快速选项,如图标加文字提示等,可能会更佳.
欢迎讨论斧正!呵
to willsort:
I have read it twice carefully. I think although your original version of the rules is a draft, it is already quite complete. I support it and have no additional supplements for the time being! I just think that it should be better to add corresponding obvious quick options after the "Title:" column, such as icons plus text prompts, etc.
Welcome to discuss and make corrections! Hehe
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Re All:
首先,我需要说明,我制订版规的目的,是希望大家都能来看,能认同,能遵守,否则它就失去了应有的意义。而对于这个版规的制定,我也犹豫了很久,有许多问题无法确定。因此我只是先创制这个草稿,让大家一同研究一下,不仅限于版主,任何论坛成员都可以发表自己的意见。
其次,我曾经考虑是否再加入其它一些版面和主题内容上的权责和义务,比如水帖和广告帖的限制,刷屏回复的限制等等;但是又觉得这应该是整个论坛的版规内容,而非某一版区的特别限制。毕竟《民法》是不会将《宪法》的内容再重复一遍。然而,我们的总版规根本就不存在。
第三,关于版规的体例我考虑了许久,决定了参考法律条文的形式和精神以彰显其严肃性,但是正式成文后,又觉得这样的版规,没有几个人可以完全读完,何谈接受。正如,世界上没有几个人完全了解他们的法律条文一样。因此,这个版规也需要一个或几个通俗化的版本,来增加他的亲合力和影响力。这就需要大家共同献计献策,来编出一些简单易懂并且易于接受的版规条例的释读版。比如,我在某个论坛见到它们的版规取名为“镇版神兽——版龟”,就至今记忆犹新。
Re All:
First of all, I need to explain that the purpose of me formulating the forum rules is to hope that everyone can come and see, recognize, and abide by them; otherwise, it will lose its due meaning. And I have hesitated for a long time in formulating this forum rule, with many issues uncertain. Therefore, I just first create this draft for everyone to study together, not limited to the forum moderators, any forum member can express their opinions.
Secondly, I once considered whether to add other responsibilities and obligations in terms of sections and content, such as restrictions on water posts and advertisement posts, restrictions on spamming replies, etc.; but I thought this should be the content of the entire forum's rules, not a special restriction of a certain section. After all, the Civil Law will not repeat the content of the Constitution. However, our general forum rules simply do not exist.
Thirdly, I have considered the format of the forum rules for a long time and decided to refer to the form and spirit of legal provisions to highlight its seriousness. But after the formal document is completed, I feel that few people can read this forum rule completely, let alone accept it. Just as few people in the world fully understand their legal provisions. Therefore, this forum rule also needs one or several popularized versions to increase its appeal and influence. This requires everyone to contribute ideas together to compile some easy-to-understand and easy-to-accept interpretive versions of the forum rule regulations. For example, I once saw a forum's rules named "Town Forum Divine Beast - Forum Tortoise", which is still fresh in my memory.
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willsort,
毕竟《民法》是不会将《宪法》的内容再重复一遍。然而,我们的总版规根本就不存在。
对于《宪法》来说,里面的内容只是涉及到成员总体上的责任和义务等,并没有提到具体的措施(这些具体措施则是在各种法律法规中体现出来,如《刑法》、《民法》等)。版块中的版规大概可以看作作为一个交待了具体措施的《民法》,而同时相当于“《宪法》”的作用的部分在“中国DOS联盟章程”中的“成员之间的行为守则”一节中应该已有说明了吧,毕竟就像《宪法》一样,总版规通常并不需要涉及到具体的措施的。
willsort,
After all, the "Civil Law" will not repeat the content of the "Constitution". However, our general forum rules simply do not exist.
As for the "Constitution", the content inside only involves the general responsibilities and obligations of members, and does not mention specific measures (these specific measures are reflected in various laws and regulations, such as the "Criminal Law", "Civil Law", etc.). The forum rules in the section can probably be regarded as a "Civil Law" that explains specific measures, and the part equivalent to the role of the "Constitution" should have been explained in the "Code of Conduct among Members" section of the "China DOS Union Charter", after all, just like the "Constitution", the general forum rules usually do not need to involve specific measures.
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To All:
版规稍作更新:修改了第1条款和第4条款、增加了第3-2-6款;
关于平台标记,我在考虑是否使用98代替9X,XP代替NT,使用各系列中的典型版本来代表这个系列,因为这两个版本的使用人数最多,对于新手来说,容易对号入座,而9X和NT就相对比较陌生;而如果是行家,自然也会分辨出98与9X、XP与NT之间的关系的。所以这也算是增加亲和力的一个尝试吧。
Re 3742668:
关于运行环境的标记,第一版在3-2节已做说明;
关于脚本解释器,我感觉必要性不是很大。毕竟这里最主要的讨论主题仍然是批处理,其解释器无非cmd和command,而专门讨论纯粹的vbs或其它脚本的主题十分稀少,可以将vbs等关键字置于“主题内容概述”中以做标识。
Re 220110:
你说的“图标加文字提示”是否是发新话题时,图标栏中的图标加上之类的标记文字?若是如此,则早前论坛中就对此有所讨论,最后因为没有定下合适的图标方案而为施行。
Re Wengier:
《章程》虽然相当于宪法,但是批处理室版规却不能相当于《民法》,而只能类似于某个省市的民事条例。例如,处罚措施不能由分版版规独立制定,而应该由总版规在《章程》的授权下统一制定。
公告:征集论坛图标,望大家积极参与
http://www.cn-dos.net/forum/viewthread.php?tid=17817
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To All:
The forum rules have been slightly updated: Clause 1 and Clause 4 have been modified, and Sub-clause 3-2-6 has been added;
Regarding the platform marking, I am considering whether to use 98 instead of 9X, and XP instead of NT, using a typical version in each series to represent that series, because these two versions have the largest number of users, which is easy for newcomers to match, while 9X and NT are relatively unfamiliar; and if it is an expert, they will naturally distinguish the relationship between 98 and 9X, and between XP and NT. So this is also a try to increase the affinity.
Re 3742668:
The marking of the running environment was explained in Section 3-2 in the first version;
Regarding the script interpreter, I feel that the necessity is not very great. After all, the main discussion topic here is still batch processing, and its interpreters are nothing more than cmd and command, and topics specifically discussing pure vbs or other scripts are very rare. The keywords such as vbs can be placed in the "Topic Content Overview" as an identifier.
Re 220110:
Is the "icon plus text prompt" you mentioned the mark text like added to the icon bar when posting a new topic? If so, there was already some discussion about this in the earlier forum, and finally it was not implemented because a suitable icon scheme was not determined.
Re Wengier:
Although the "Charter" is equivalent to the constitution, the batch processing section forum rules cannot be equivalent to the "Civil Law", but can only be similar to a civil regulation of a certain province or city. For example, the punishment measures cannot be independently formulated by the sub-forum rules, but should be uniformly formulated by the general forum rules under the authorization of the "Charter".
Announcement: Soliciting forum icons, everyone is welcome to participate
http://www.cn-dos.net/forum/viewthread.php?tid=17817
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今天才来的希望能学到更多好东西!
Just arrived today, hoping to learn more great things!
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版主和各位热心肠的人都是大牛人,是个大好人,大伟人!
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这个专题办得很好,建议再开一个VBS,JS联盟,反正都是脚本类的,
我也从中学到不少好东东,所以也送出些我的点滴体会[codes]
This special topic is very well done. It is suggested to open another VBS, JS alliance. Anyway, they are all script - related. I have also learned a lot of good things from it, so I also give out some of my bits and pieces of experience
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版主和大虾们好啊~
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我是新来的,希望各位多发点好东东给我们这些小学生们
I'm new here. I hope everyone can post more good stuff for us primary school students.
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我想,这个版规首先应该置顶,让新进论坛的朋友可以看见,了解版规的具体要求,这样一来,就可以提高大家所发主题的标题的合理性,同时也减少了各位版主的版务记录的次数了,减轻版主们的"劳动量",对于论坛的搜索功能也可以更好的配合了。
还有一个建议,就是希望各个版主多帖一些其它方面的脚本的基础文章,不仅仅只限于批处理、VBS、JS等这几个脚本,最主要的还是要帖一些基础的文章,为什么这么说呢?因为很多朋友进这个论坛,都不是像版主们这样的高手,我可以肯定的说,有很大一部分都是新手,所以帖一些基础的脚本文章就显得尤为的重要了。这不仅可以激发大家对新的脚本技术的积极性,而且可以使大家更好的认识脚本技术,进而对脚本产生兴趣,兴趣有了,我想学什么东西都会努力的想去把它学好的。如果总是搞一大堆的比较枯燥难懂的文章,就失去了它的意思了。本人最初学批处理的时候,也是在看了很多文章中提到批处理的应用后才对它产生浓厚的兴趣的,所以后来学起来就比较轻松,比较肯买力去学。
就提这两个小建议了。
I think this board rule should be stickied first so that new friends joining the forum can see it and understand the specific requirements of the board rule. In this way, the rationality of the titles of the topics posted by everyone can be improved, and the number of the version management records of the moderators can be reduced, reducing the "workload" of the moderators. It can also better cooperate with the forum's search function.
Another suggestion is that I hope that various moderators post more basic articles on other aspects of scripts, not only limited to batch processing, VBS, JS and other scripts. The most important thing is to post some basic articles. Why is that? Because many friends who come to this forum are not as proficient as the moderators. I can be sure that a large part are novices. So posting some basic script articles is particularly important. This can not only stimulate everyone's enthusiasm for new script technologies, but also enable everyone to better understand script technologies, and then develop an interest in scripts. With interest, I think everyone will be motivated to learn script technologies. If we always post a lot of boring and difficult-to-understand articles, it loses its meaning. When I first learned batch processing, I was also interested in it after reading many articles about the application of batch processing, which made me develop a strong interest, so later I learned it more easily.
Just these two small suggestions.
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顶楼上的
有了 一些基础的脚本文章 这对于我们这些想学脚本而又不是很懂的人是一大福音
正因为我们的看不懂而又想学所以也会在论坛提出一些奇奇怪怪的问题来,这无疑是给各大版主及各位大虾们带来了负担,在此请各位见谅!您们辛苦了 。如果一旦有一些更加基础性的东西了我们也将容易的掌握了,同时也希望能给各位前辈减轻负担
希望能在一些例题当中加以注释(因为人的技术都有高低之分 也许有的人能看懂,但还是有很多新手是看不懂的。有了这样的注释就不至于去开新贴问某一句的意思了,也就不用在劳烦各位为了某些同样的句子解释一次 二次 三次。。。),因为这样我们更加掌握了每一句的含义 这样也就达到了一看就懂 一看就会 一目了然。。。的效果
如果能将各种脚本的基础知识整理成从简单到复杂的教程应该更理想
Top of the building
There are some basic script articles, which is a great blessing for us who want to learn scripts but don't understand them very well
Because we don't understand and want to learn, we will also raise some strange questions in the forum, which undoubtedly brings a burden to the major moderators and all you experts. Here, please forgive us! You have worked hard. If there are some more basic things, we will also be able to master them easily. At the same time, we also hope to reduce the burden on you predecessors
I hope to add comments in some examples (because people's skills are different, maybe some people can understand, but there are still many newbies who can't understand. With such comments, there is no need to start a new post to ask the meaning of a certain sentence, and there is no need to bother you to explain the same sentence once, twice, three times...), because in this way, we can better master the meaning of each sentence, so as to achieve the effect of seeing it and understanding it, seeing it and knowing it, and seeing it clearly...
It would be more ideal if the basic knowledge of various scripts could be sorted out into a tutorial from simple to complex
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支持版规,坚决执行!
Support the forum rules and firmly enforce them!
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hake
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『第 13 楼』:
菜鸟也爱dos
使用 LLM 解释/回答一下
菜鸟我,这是不可否认的,但我喜欢批处理,并且想学好批处理
各位大侠多多照顾下啊!
I'm a newbie, that's undeniable, but I like batch processing and want to learn it well. Please take care of me, great experts!
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lkwater
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degwcwt
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