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[讨论]怎么个不纯粹???
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Windows 98的“关闭系统”中的最后一项可以启动到DOS方式下,不过,用这种方式启动的DOS并不是很纯粹的DOS-----------------------怎么个不纯粹???
它和F8--Command Prompt only以及F8--SAFE MODE COMMAND PROMPT ONLY三者有什么区别和联系???
可不可说config.sys中没有加载任何驱动的话,选F8--Command Prompt only和选F8--SAFE MODE COMMAND PROMPT ONLY是一样的???
The last option in "Shut Down the System" of Windows 98 can start to the DOS mode, but the DOS started in this way is not very pure DOS. ------------------- How is it impure???
What are the differences and connections between it and F8--Command Prompt only and F8--SAFE MODE COMMAND PROMPT ONLY???
Can it be said that if there are no drivers loaded in config.sys, then choosing F8--Command Prompt only and choosing F8--SAFE MODE COMMAND PROMPT ONLY are the same???
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Windows 98的“关闭系统”其实是一种很常见的应用程序的SHELL方式。比如Turbo C等程序中都有的。这显然不是纯DOS方式下。
"Command Prompt Only"是则纯MS-DOS 7.10方式。
The "Shut Down System" in Windows 98 is actually a very common SHELL mode of applications. For example, it is available in programs like Turbo C and so on. This is obviously not in the pure DOS mode.
"Command Prompt Only" is the pure MS-DOS 7.10 mode.
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SHELL方式???汗!!!不懂啊!!!
总之我没试出它Command Prompt Only的区别,倒是感到了和窗口DOS有很大的不同!!!
还有“可不可说config.sys中没有加载任何驱动的话,选F8--Command Prompt only和选F8--SAFE MODE COMMAND PROMPT ONLY是一样的???”
SHELL mode??? Sweat!!! Don't understand!!!
In short, I didn't test out the difference with its Command Prompt Only, but I felt a big difference from windowed DOS!!!
Also "Can it be said that if there are no drivers loaded in config.sys, selecting F8--Command Prompt only and selecting F8--SAFE MODE COMMAND PROMPT ONLY are the same???"
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象“关闭系统”中的最后一项启动到的DOS下,键入"win"就会进入windows,这不正说明了它是真正的dos吗!!!有什么不纯粹???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
说话要说明白!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!请具体说明~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~!!!!!!!!!
In the last item of "Shut Down System" to boot into DOS, typing "win" will enter Windows. Doesn't this precisely show that it is a real DOS! What's impure about it!!!!! Please explain specifically~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~!!!!!
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呵呵。。。shell是一种设定命令解释程序环境的工具。也就是说这个方式只是98设定了以command作为命令解释的环境。。
Heheh... The shell is a tool for setting up the environment of a command interpreter. That is to say, this method just sets 98 to use command as the command interpretation environment.
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那么!这种在笼罩下dos和真正的dos相比,有什么区别或者说干不了的事吗???
我知道有些dos游戏在dos窗口下不能玩而在真dos下就能玩,不知在“笼罩下的dos”里能不能玩啊???
“笼罩下的dos”更象dos窗口还是更象真dos???
So! What are the differences or things that can't be done with this DOS under the overlay compared to the real DOS???
I know that some DOS games can't be played in the DOS window but can be played in the real DOS. I wonder if they can be played in "DOS under the overlay"???
Is "DOS under the overlay" more like a DOS window or more like the real DOS???
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举个例子吧,进入这种Shell方式的DOS后可以用EXIT命令返回其父程序。而纯DOS就不可能用EXIT命令离开DOS。
Let's take an example. After entering this kind of Shell - mode DOS, you can use the EXIT command to return to its parent program. But in pure DOS, it's impossible to use the EXIT command to leave DOS.
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以下是引用nbh002在2003-5-21 23:43:22的发言:
Windows 98的“关闭系统”中的最后一项可以启动到DOS方式下,不过,用这种方式启动的DOS并不是很纯粹的DOS-----------------------怎么个不纯粹???
它和F8--Command Prompt only以及F8--SAFE MODE COMMAND PROMPT ONLY三者有什么区别和联系???
可不可说config.sys中没有加载任何驱动的话,选F8--Command Prompt only和选F8--SAFE MODE COMMAND PROMPT ONLY是一样的???
Windows 98的“关闭系统”中的最后一项可以启动到DOS方式下,这时的DOS和你的C盘下的AUTOEXEC.BAT、CINFIG.SYS这两个文件关系很大。
如果你的C盘中根本没有这两个文件,那么,可以得到纯DOS。
如果你的C盘中有这两个文件,那么,得到的DOS取决于这两个文件的设置。
如果你试着改变这两个文件的设置,你会发现,可用内存等等都变了。
如果config.sys中和AUTOEXEC.BAT中没有加载任何驱动的话,选F8--Command Prompt only和它是一样的。
The following is a quote from nbh002 on 2003-5-21 23:43:22:
The last option in "Shut Down System" of Windows 98 can start into DOS mode, but the DOS started in this way is not very pure DOS-----------------------How is it impure???
What are the differences and connections between it and F8--Command Prompt only and F8--SAFE MODE COMMAND PROMPT ONLY???
Can it be said that if there are no drivers loaded in config.sys, selecting F8--Command Prompt only and selecting F8--SAFE MODE COMMAND PROMPT ONLY are the same???
The last option in "Shut Down System" of Windows 98 can start into DOS mode. At this time, the DOS is closely related to the two files AUTOEXEC.BAT and CINFIG.SYS under your C drive.
If there are no such two files in your C drive, then pure DOS can be obtained.
If there are such two files in your C drive, then the obtained DOS depends on the settings of these two files.
If you try to change the settings of these two files, you will find that the available memory and so on have changed.
If there are no drivers loaded in config.sys and AUTOEXEC.BAT, selecting F8--Command Prompt only is the same as it.
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真好也!!!事情越来越明白了!!!
但是照楼上的说法,config.sys和AUTOEXEC.BAT对于F8--Command Prompt only的dos是没有用的!!!
可我以前听说是config.sys和AUTOEXEC.BAT对于F8--SAFE MODE COMMAND PROMPT ONLY是没有用的,而对F8--Command Prompt only是有用的,这正是F8--SAFE MODE COMMAND PROMPT ONLY和F8--COMMAND PROMPT ONLY的区别
希望我们能够一起明确这个问题!!!
That's really good!!! Things are getting clearer and clearer!!!
But according to what the person above said, config.sys and AUTOEXEC.BAT are not useful for F8--Command Prompt only DOS!!!
But I used to hear that config.sys and AUTOEXEC.BAT are not useful for F8--SAFE MODE COMMAND PROMPT ONLY, but are useful for F8--Command Prompt only, which is exactly the difference between F8--SAFE MODE COMMAND PROMPT ONLY and F8--COMMAND PROMPT ONLY
Hope we can clarify this issue together!!!
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"Command prompt only"就是正常DOS模式呢,“Safe mode command prompt only”就是跳过CONFIG.SYS和AUTOEXEC.BAT的加载,类似于启动时按F5键。
"Command prompt only" is the normal DOS mode, and "Safe mode command prompt only" skips loading CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT, similar to pressing the F5 key at startup.
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我并没有说:config.sys和AUTOEXEC.BAT对于F8--Command Prompt only的dos是没有用的!!!
我只是说:如果config.sys中和AUTOEXEC.BAT中没有加载任何驱动的话,选F8--Command Prompt only和它是一样的。
这两句话的意思是不一样的。
如果config.sys中和AUTOEXEC.BAT中加载驱动的话,选F8--Command Prompt only以后,将逐行选择,对于很复杂的多菜单启动,我没有试过是否一样,所以才有上面的答案。
I didn't say that: config.sys and AUTOEXEC.BAT are useless for F8--Command Prompt only DOS!!!
I just said: If there are no drivers loaded in config.sys and AUTOEXEC.BAT, choosing F8--Command Prompt only is the same as it.
These two sentences have different meanings.
If drivers are loaded in config.sys and AUTOEXEC.BAT, after choosing F8--Command Prompt only, it will select line by line. For very complex multi-menu booting, I haven't tried if it's the same, so there is the above answer.
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就说"关机时的dos"和"F8的dos"!!!
从上面各位的回答中,我得知了两者“来去”时的很多不同之处,但是始终不得而知--两者运行时有什么实质的功能上的差别!!!
如果没有的话,说“关机时的dos不纯粹就是完全没有必要的!!!
Just talk about "DOS when shutting down" and "DOS from F8"!!!
From the answers of the above各位, I learned a lot of differences between the two when "coming and going", but I still don't know exactly--what are the substantial functional differences when they are running!!!
If there is no difference, then say that "the DOS when shutting down is not purely completely unnecessary!!!"
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关于应用程序的SHELL方式嘛,总之COMMAND.COM是加载在这个TSR程序之上的,所以就不算很纯了。
Regarding the SHELL method of the application, in short, COMMAND.COM is loaded on top of this TSR program, so it's not very pure.
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哈哈!!!我了解!!!
这样的问题是很难为人的!!!也许,知道有“不纯”二字就够了!!!
Haha!!! I understand!!! Such a question is really difficult for people!!! Maybe, just knowing the word "impure" is enough!!!
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