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纯DOS下回味仙剑DOS版真味的建议方案!
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在XP2000下用DOSBOX 和VDMS来模拟DOS仙剑,但毕竟是隔靴搔痒,总是有点变味儿了!
要真正的回味仙剑DOS版,最好要在纯DOS下!
因此,研究怎样可以在XP中同时兼有纯DOS和用现在的PCI声卡来玩仙剑DOS版而又能重现音乐音效才更加有意义!
现在这样做的难点已基本解决了!
1 DOS平台
仙剑DOS版原是在DOS5.0以上到DOS6.22,或9598的MSDOS方式(是重启的那种),鉴于现在的情况,绝大多数人已没有DOS了,但有些还有98,可重启到MSDOS方式,2000XP 的用户,我推荐大家安装有中国DOS联盟站长WENGIER整理的MS-DOS7.10!
http://dos.e-stone.cn/dosbbs/dispbbs.asp?boardID=11&ID=5363&page=1
在安装MSDOS7.10后,要玩仙剑DOS版前,为了有最多的常规内存,最好最简单配置CONFIG.SYS 和AUTOEXEC.BAT,如下:(先把原先的这两个文件的后缀名都改成TXT,然后用记事本把下面的内容分别存为CONFIG.SYS和AUTOEXEC.BAT,要还原就再改成原状)
DOS=HIGH,UMB
DEVICE=路径\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=路径\EMM386 NOEMS NOVCPI
DEVICEHIGH=路径\VIDE-CDD.SYS /D:PAL (如玩光盘版,就加上此句,硬盘版不需要)
(存为CONFIG.SYS)
LH 路径\MSCDEX /D:PAL (如玩光盘版,就加上此句,硬盘版不需要)
此处,还要加载PCI声卡的DOS驱动的语句的,按照驱动的说明
(存为AUTOEXEC.BAT)
2 文件系统
以前是:
老DOS只支持FAT16的文件系统,而98 一般采用FAT32,(与FAT16相比,更节省空间),2000 XP 一般的,除了 支持FAT32外,还有NTFS(有更多功能,如很少文件碎片,安全和权限,网络功能等等..).
老DOS是一定要装在C盘的(我试过,通过隐藏XP的C盘,而使得非C盘成为C盘后,好象仍然不能装老DOS,不过我是在XP虚拟器里实验的...),这样的话,要使2000XP 与DOS并存,就要在C盘先装DOS(这一点就很麻烦了),装前要把C盘格式化为FAT16,(最大为2G,玩纯DOS游戏足够了),然后在安装2000XP,把WINDOWS目录放在其他盘,2000XP 会处理C盘,在启动时给出启动菜单的(用BOOT.INI一个简易的分区引导管理器)
但是现在有更方便的,就是装中国DOS联盟站长WENGIER整理的MS-DOS7.10! 为什么我强烈推荐呢?
因为,这样的话,就省去了以上的繁文缛节! 可以直接在C盘为FAT32文件系统的XP 2000上装MSDOS7.10,会自动出现启动菜单的,因为它支持FAT32!还有长文件名,也就是说,解决了老DOS 的缺陷!
3 声卡
老DOS游戏用的是ISA声卡,CREATIVE 的 SOUND BLASTER AWE 64 达到顶峰! 但由于ISA带宽太窄,PCI横空出世,但他不提供ISA的I/O ADDRESS(输入输出地址)、IRQ(中断号)和DMA(直接内存存取的通道),但声卡厂家也想出办法,一是通过SB-LINK接口(少数),二是用软件模拟.在声卡的DOS驱动里,比如我的SB PCI64<ENSONIQ AUDIOPCI>主要 *APINIT.COM 等,要根据DOS驱动的说明,在AUTOEXEC.BAT中加入相应的语句
我的是:
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T2
SET SNDSCAPE=C:\EAPCI
C:\EAPCI\APINIT.COM
(这要根据你声卡的牌子和型号而定的)
基本解决了问题。集成声卡的DOS驱动可能比较难找,我推荐大家一个我碰到的全世界DOS驱动最多的国外网站:
http://www.soundcard-drivers.com/companies/258.htm
要注册,但只要几分钟
4 CPU
在运行仙剑DOS版的INSTALL.EXE时,会出现RUNTIME ERROR 200....,这是INSTALL的程序设计时的历史局限(CPU要在200MHZ以下),可用白河老兄的修正程序,如有问题的话,也可用SLOWDOWN来降速CPU,命令是
SLOWDOWN /P:XX(XX表示CPU的百分比,如20,降速到原先CPU的20%),要还原,就SLOWDOWN /U,也很方便
记住,用INSTALL设置完后,要用SLOWDOWN /U 还原CPU,再运行PAL,否则就要老牛拖破车了,甚至死机了
http://newdos.yginfo.net/doswarej.htm
5 XMS(扩展内存)
仙剑DOS版最好需要3MB的扩展内存,但超过32MB就显示-1,有人建议用HIMEM /INT 15=XXXX,这个对于大多数一般玩家,容易搞错,我推荐一个程序,用起来很方便的,XMSDSK,命令为XMSDSK X(X表示你要把XKB的内存虚拟成一个盘,再这里实际上就是要减掉的内存数,如我的内存是256MB,那么就要XMSDSK 230000)
http://newdos.yginfo.net/doswareh.htm
Under XP2000, using DOSBOX and VDMS to simulate DOS version of Xianjian is, after all, just scratching the surface, always a bit off!
To truly relive the DOS version of Xianjian, it is best to be in pure DOS!
Therefore, researching how to have both pure DOS in XP and use the current PCI sound card to play the DOS version of Xianjian and reproduce the music and sound effects is more meaningful!
Now the difficulties in doing this have been basically solved!
1 DOS platform
The original Xianjian DOS version was under DOS 5.0 or above to DOS 6.22, or the MSDOS mode of 95/98 (the kind that restarts). Given the current situation, most people no longer have DOS, but some still have 98 and can restart to MSDOS mode. For users of 2000/XP, I recommend that everyone install MS-DOS 7.10 sorted out by the webmaster of China DOS Union WENGIER!
http://dos.e-stone.cn/dosbbs/dispbbs.asp?boardID=11&ID=5363&page=1
After installing MSDOS 7.10, before playing the DOS version of Xianjian, in order to have the most conventional memory, it is best to simply configure CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT as follows: (first change the suffixes of the original these two files to TXT, then use Notepad to save the following content as CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT respectively, and change them back to the original form to restore)
DOS=HIGH,UMB
DEVICE=path\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=path\EMM386 NOEMS NOVCPI
DEVICEHIGH=path\VIDE-CDD.SYS /D:PAL (if playing the CD version, add this sentence, not needed for the hard disk version)
(Save as CONFIG.SYS)
LH path\MSCDEX /D:PAL (if playing the CD version, add this sentence, not needed for the hard disk version)
Here, the statement to load the DOS driver of the PCI sound card is also needed, according to the driver's instructions
(Save as AUTOEXEC.BAT)
2 File system
Previously:
Old DOS only supports the FAT16 file system, and 98 generally uses FAT32 (compared with FAT16, it saves more space). 2000/XP generally, in addition to supporting FAT32, also has NTFS (has more functions, such as few file fragments, security and permissions, network functions, etc.).
Old DOS must be installed on drive C (I tried, by hiding drive C of XP and making the non-C drive become drive C, it still seemed impossible to install old DOS, but I experimented in the XP virtual machine...). In this case, to have DOS coexist with 2000/XP, DOS must be installed on drive C first (this is very troublesome). Before installation, drive C should be formatted as FAT16 (maximum 2G, which is enough for playing pure DOS games), then install 2000/XP, put the WINDOWS directory on other drives, 2000/XP will handle drive C, and a boot menu will be given at startup (using BOOT.INI, a simple partition boot manager)
But now there is a more convenient way, which is to install MS-DOS 7.10 sorted out by the webmaster of China DOS Union WENGIER! Why do I strongly recommend it?
Because in this way, the above formalities are omitted! You can directly install MSDOS 7.10 on XP 2000 with drive C as FAT32 file system, and a boot menu will automatically appear because it supports FAT32! Also has long filenames, that is, it solves the defects of old DOS!
3 Sound card
Old DOS games used ISA sound cards, and CREATIVE's SOUND BLASTER AWE 64 reached the peak! But due to the narrow bandwidth of ISA, PCI came out, but it does not provide ISA's I/O ADDRESS (input-output address), IRQ (interrupt number) and DMA (channel of direct memory access), but sound card manufacturers also found a way, one is through the SB-LINK interface (few), the other is to use software simulation. In the DOS driver of the sound card, for example, my SB PCI64<ENSONIQ AUDIOPCI> mainly *APINIT.COM, etc., corresponding statements should be added to AUTOEXEC.BAT according to the instructions of the DOS driver
Mine is:
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T2
SET SNDSCAPE=C:\EAPCI
C:\EAPCI\APINIT.COM
(This should be determined according to the brand and model of your sound card)
The problem is basically solved. The DOS driver of integrated sound cards may be relatively difficult to find. I recommend to everyone a foreign website I encountered that has the most DOS drivers in the world:
http://www.soundcard-drivers.com/companies/258.htm
Need to register, but it only takes a few minutes
4 CPU
When running INSTALL.EXE of the DOS version of Xianjian, RUNTIME ERROR 200... will appear, this is a historical limitation in the program design of INSTALL (CPU should be below 200MHZ). You can use Brother Baihe's correction program. If there is a problem, you can also use SLOWDOWN to slow down the CPU. The command is
SLOWDOWN /P:XX (XX represents the percentage of the CPU, such as 20, slowing down to 20% of the original CPU). To restore, it is SLOWDOWN /U, which is also very convenient
Remember, after using INSTALL to set up, you need to use SLOWDOWN /U to restore the CPU, and then run PAL, otherwise it will be like an old cow pulling a broken cart, or even a system crash
http://newdos.yginfo.net/doswarej.htm
5 XMS (extended memory)
The DOS version of Xianjian preferably needs 3MB of extended memory, but if it exceeds 32MB, it shows -1. Some people suggest using HIMEM /INT 15=XXXX. For most general players, it is easy to make a mistake. I recommend a program that is very convenient to use, XMSDSK. The command is XMSDSK X (X represents the number of KB of memory you want to virtualize into a disk, here it is actually the number of memory to subtract. For example, my memory is 256MB, then I need XMSDSK 230000)
http://newdos.yginfo.net/doswareh.htm
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我觉得这样是不必要的,仙剑在DOSBOX 和VDMS中运行的很好,何必非得到纯DOS下运行才行呢。
I think this is unnecessary. The Legend of Sword and Fairy runs very well in DOSBOX and VDMS. Why must it run in pure DOS?
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不同意楼上的,我支持GOTOmsdos的钻研精神
1.模拟器毕竟是模拟器,速度大大受影响,当然现在的电脑已经可以忽略这点了
2.模拟出来的声卡显卡毕竟不能和原装的比,纯DOS的声卡声音应该比较好
3,可能就是一种挑战了,能让高速电脑PCI声卡正常运行DOS游戏不是简单的事,历经苦难到最后如果能成功,估计那种幸福的感觉只有自己知道了
4.大家来这个论坛的目的就是不愿意放弃DOS,能用DOS做的事情就要尽一切可能用DOS来完成,DOS游戏用DOS玩才是正道,不过我没有GOTOmsdos那么厉害,嘿嘿,我特意买了一台旧电脑玩DOS,一块顶级的AWE 64 GOLD,音质美,哈,虽然享受得很快乐,但是也没有任何成就感,唉,哪天成功出了音效在分享出来啊,另外帮个忙,不知道哪个驱动可以成功在DOS驱动REALTEK ALC650 AC97?
Disagree with the above, I support GOTOmsdos's research spirit.
1. After all, emulators are emulators, and the speed is greatly affected. Of course, now the computer can ignore this point.
2. The sound card and graphics card simulated are after all not comparable to the original ones. The sound of the pure DOS sound card should be better.
3. Maybe it's just a kind of challenge. It's not an easy task to make the high-speed computer PCI sound card run DOS games normally. If you can succeed after going through hardships, I estimate that only you yourself will know that kind of happy feeling.
4. Everyone's purpose of coming to this forum is to be unwilling to give up DOS. Everything that can be done with DOS should be done with DOS as much as possible. Playing DOS games with DOS is the right way. But I'm not as厉害 as GOTOmsdos. Hehe, I specially bought an old computer to play DOS, and a top - notch AWE 64 GOLD. The sound quality is beautiful, ha, although I enjoy it very happily, but there is no sense of accomplishment at all. Oh, I'll share it when the sound effect is successfully released one day. In addition, help me, I don't know which driver can successfully drive REALTEK ALC650 AC97 in DOS?
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强烈支持楼上的说法!AC97的DOS驱动一般是没有的(VIA等少数的除外),这点在论坛的“DOS媒体世界/网络技术”版块中已有说明和相关内容。
Strongly support the statement of the person above! The DOS drivers for AC97 are generally not available (except for a few like VIA). This has been explained and related content is available in the "DOS Media World/Network Technology" section of the forum.
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现在已经有64位的处理器了,真不知道再过几年还要怎么样才能玩老DOS游戏。
Now there are already 64-bit processors. I really don't know how to play old DOS games in a few years.
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为玩《仙剑》如此折腾,毫无意义,为钻研DOS倒还说得过去^_^确实,《仙剑》曾代表了国产RPG游戏一个比较高的制作水平,主要是游戏与剧情的结合,但事实上口碑如此之好,人云亦云的成份也很重,——很多人玩了这游戏说感动得想哭,嘿,我没这感觉,要感动,还不如重温一遍《神雕》之类的经典小说,游戏那单线地雷式就够烦人的了,那年头我倒是对《金庸群侠传》挺感兴趣的,呵呵。(个人观念,莫过份介意)
Going to so much trouble for playing "Chinese Paladin" is meaningless, but it's understandable for delving into DOS ^_^ Indeed, "Chinese Paladin" once represented a relatively high production level of domestic RPG games, mainly the combination of the game and the plot. But in fact, the excellent reputation has a lot to do with people following the crowd. - Many people said they were moved to tears after playing this game. Hey, I don't have that feeling. If you want to be moved, it's better to revisit classic novels like "The Return of the Condor Heroes". The single-line minefield type in the game is enough to be annoying. Back then, I was quite interested in "Jin Yong Heroes", heh heh. (Personal opinion, don't take it too seriously)
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为什么我玩的时候屏幕亮度和对比度调到最高仍看不清黑暗场景?
Why does the screen brightness and contrast remain at the highest level but I still can't see clearly in dark scenes when I play?
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以下是引用晓欣在2004-9-26 17:46:08的发言:
现在已经有64位的处理器了,真不知道再过几年还要怎么样才能玩老DOS游戏。
1.用模拟器或者虚拟机器(不可能完美)
2.买旧电脑(完美)
Here is the speech of Xiaoxin on 2004-9-26 17:46:08:
Now there are already 64-bit processors. I really don't know how to play old DOS games in a few years.
1. Use an emulator or virtual machine (not perfect)
2. Buy an old computer (perfect)
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以下是引用wchong在2004-10-1 7:33:52的发言:
为什么我玩的时候屏幕亮度和对比度调到最高仍看不清黑暗场景?
原始设计是黑的,不可以通过调节亮度看见,能看见才奇怪呢
The following is a statement from wchong on October 1, 2004 at 7:33:52:
Why can't I see the dark scenes clearly even when I adjust the screen brightness and contrast to the highest?
The original design is black, and it can't be seen by adjusting the brightness. It's strange that you can see it.
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以下是引用如风清扬在2004-10-1 2:30:38的发言:
为玩《仙剑》如此折腾,毫无意义,为钻研DOS倒还说得过去^_^
确实,《仙剑》曾代表了国产RPG游戏一个比较高的制作水平,主要是游戏与剧情的结合,但事实上口碑如此之好,人云亦云的成份也很重,——很多人玩了这游戏说感动得想哭,嘿,我没这感觉,要感动,还不如重温一遍《神雕》之类的经典小说,游戏那单线地雷式就够烦人的了,那年头我倒是对《金庸群侠传》挺感兴趣的,呵呵。(个人观念,莫过份介意)
仙剑不但剧情好,而且画面也好(在当时的游戏来说),更重要的是MIDI音乐好听,金庸群侠传的构造也可以,但是通关后可玩性就没了,一般都是不到四小时就完成,音乐也不错
为仙剑折腾实际上就是为了研究DOS吧?
Here is the statement from Rulfengqing on 2004-10-1 2:30:38:
Wasting so much effort on playing "Chinese Paladin" is meaningless, but it's acceptable to delve into DOS ^_^
Indeed, "Chinese Paladin" once represented a relatively high production level of domestic RPG games, mainly the combination of the game and the plot. But in fact, the good reputation has a lot to do with people following the crowd. - Many people said they were moved to tears after playing this game. Hey, I didn't have that feeling. To be moved, it's better to revisit classic novels like "The Return of the Condor Heroes". The single-line mine-like system in the game is quite annoying. Back then, I was quite interested in "Heroes of Jin Yong", heh heh. (Personal opinion, don't take it too seriously)
Chinese Paladin not only has a good plot but also good graphics (for games at that time), and more importantly, the MIDI music is nice. The structure of Heroes of Jin Yong is also okay, but the re-playability after clearing the game is gone. Generally, it's completed in less than four hours. The music is also good.
Wasting effort on Chinese Paladin is actually for studying DOS?
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并不是想看的很清楚,只是一点都看不见,漆黑一片那,怎么办呢?
It's not that I want to see very clearly, but I can't see anything at all, it's pitch black. What should I do?
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DOS仙剑的优劣之我见(个人观点)
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嘿嘿! 居然还有人对我这个帖子发表意见! 欢迎啊..为仙剑折腾,当然是为了趣味的学习DOS! 学习的最终目的不就是要享受的嘛! 在实践的趣味中研究,才更带劲啊! 当然也是为了弥补一下仙剑时代的味道! 仙剑本身非常经典! 我刚刚玩通关了!(最后一战是用修改器后才胜的!,实在没办法呀!)我觉得DOS仙剑:优点:1, 情节丰富曲折, 2, 有很强的人情味和现实感3 有大喜大悲的情感4,有中国民族的特色5,场景有意境6音乐魂迁梦绕,荡气回肠(尤其是古朴的FM合成的音乐,更是有特殊的韵味和意境! 是后来的波表合成MIDI音乐所没有的,由此看来,技术上先进的不等于艺术上一定好!)7,较强的参与感8,游戏技术细节丰富(武器,仙术,阴阳..)个人觉得,遗憾之处:1, 相同的敌人重复次数太太多,打这样的敌人时使人感觉在KILLING TIME! 非常无聊! 甚至经常在几秒钟的间隙就出现这样相同的敌人,更使人非常受不了! (这方面,金庸群侠传就好的多)2, 除了煽情,迷宫是另一大卖点,但太复杂了,一般说,手中没有攻密地图,简直没法玩!(这一点,98版就简化许多了),这不是娱乐,分明是自残了3, 物品,仙术等等,在游戏画面上无介绍,很不方便(这一点,98版就有了)4, 在PCI声卡上,有音乐无音效,非常遗憾!(其他DOS游戏就无此问题)由于98仙剑既有音乐也有音效,所以我现在在随意耍耍98仙剑,听听音效,感觉很好..
Hehe! There are still people who leave comments on my post! Welcome.. I'm working on "Chinese Paladin" to learn DOS for fun! The ultimate goal of learning is to enjoy, right! It's more exciting to study in the fun of practice! Of course, it's also to restore the flavor of the "Chinese Paladin" era! "Chinese Paladin" itself is very classic! I just finished playing it through! (I had to use a trainer to win the final battle! There was really no other way!) I think the advantages of DOS "Chinese Paladin": 1. Rich and tortuous plot, 2. Strong human touch and realism, 3. Great joys and sorrows, 4. Chinese national characteristics, 5. Scenes are poetic, 6. Music is soul-stirring, heart-rending (especially the ancient FM synthesized music, which has a special charm and poetic quality! What later wave table synthesized MIDI music doesn't have. From this, it can be seen that technologically advanced doesn't necessarily mean artistically good!), 7. Strong sense of participation, 8. Rich technical details in the game (weapons, magic, yin and yang..). Personal regrets: 1. The same enemies are repeated too many times, and fighting such enemies makes people feel like KILLING TIME! Very boring! Even often appearing such the same enemies in a few seconds gap, which makes people very unbearable! (In this regard, "Heroes of Jin Yong" is much better), 2. Besides being emotional, labyrinths are another big selling point, but they are too complicated. Generally speaking, without a strategy guide map, it's simply impossible to play! (This has been simplified a lot in the 98 version), this is not entertainment, it's clearly self-torture, 3. Items, magic, etc., have no introduction on the game screen, which is very inconvenient! (This is available in the 98 version), 4. On PCI sound cards, there is music but no sound effects, which is very regrettable! (Other DOS games don't have this problem). Since the 98 "Chinese Paladin" has both music and sound effects, so I'm now casually playing the 98 "Chinese Paladin", listening to the sound effects, and feeling very good..
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2004-10-7 00:00 |
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ChrisYang
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我是用xbox上的DOSBOX,配备usb键盘,不过还是喜欢用xbox手柄
I'm using DOSBOX on Xbox with a USB keyboard, but I still prefer using the Xbox controller
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2004-11-4 00:00 |
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Loff
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移植才是正道!
http://bspal.ys168.com
http://www.palunion.net/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=10935
Porting is the right way!
http://bspal.ys168.com
http://www.palunion.net/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=10935
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2004-11-15 00:00 |
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miaofen66
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有没仙剑下载?
Is there any download for Sword and Fairy?
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