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短短两天时间,烂帖又是一堆,NND,毛了,准备采取强硬措施,这次不弄个鸡飞狗跳誓不罢休。
In just two short days, there are again piles of poor-quality posts. NND, I'm fed up and ready to take tough measures. This time, I won't stop until it's in an uproar.
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要不开一个精英子论坛!!! 专门讨论高难度的功能!!
Why not open an elite sub-forum! ! ! Specifically for discussing advanced functions!
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『第 34 楼』:
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乱世当用重典
版主赶快出杀手锏吧
Severe times call for severe measures. Moderators, quickly come up with the trump card!
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版主 HAT真的好认真 啊。。出发后面还附带这些帖子规定。我也管理过论坛。了解那些标题党,哎。。是应该好好治理一下呢!
The moderator HAT is really serious. There are these post regulations attached after the departure. I have also managed forums. I understand those clickbait titles. Oh, it should really be managed well!
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下回在注册那里特别加一项内容,“读过《提问的智慧》和《[推荐新手]批处理新手FAQ整理》的新成员,提交一百字以上的读后感”,或许这能减轻一下
Next time, add a special item at the registration, "New members who have read 'The Wisdom of Asking Questions' and ' Batch Processing Newcomer FAQ Compilation' should submit a reflection of more than 100 words", maybe this can reduce a bit
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我一看标题写是“高手请进,菜鸟滚蛋“我就好伤心!
I saw the title "Experts please come in, noobs get out" and I was really sad!
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看到这样的标题,请向版主举报,一定要严重扣他/她的分。
See such a title, please report to the moderator, and be sure to deduct his/her points seriously.
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Originally posted by Evangel at 2008-10-4 04:23 PM:
下回在注册那里特别加一项内容,“读过《提问的智慧》和《批处理新手FAQ整理》的新成员,提交一百字以上的读后感”,或许这能减轻一下
绝了绝了
第一次听说要写读后感
Originally posted by Evangel at 2008-10-4 04:23 PM:
Next time, add a special item at the registration place: "New members who have read "The Wisdom of Asking Questions" and " Batch Processing Newcomer FAQ Compilation" should submit a reflection of more than 100 words", maybe this can reduce a bit
Amazing, amazing
Heard for the first time that a reflection needs to be written
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Originally posted by landays at 2008-10-5 06:28 PM:
也许你是高手
也许你表达能力很清晰
但如果是新手 对某个问题的概念不清楚
以至于无法清晰的表达自己的疑问
我想大多数求助的人并不是不想把标题写清楚
而是他们不懂怎么写才能在你们这种高手的眼里显得清晰明朗
谁不是从新手过来的?难道你是新手时没发问求助过?
也许对于你来说的一个很简单的问题,某个新手还在那里琢磨半天
别以自己的标准去衡量别人
大半年之后,再回头来看我当初发的这个帖子,不由长叹一声:论坛有千千万,帖子有万万千,而前赴后继的烂帖却何其相似!
我承认有部分标题模糊的帖子,是楼主因为概念模糊而束手无策,但是,绝大多数情况下,问题的实质并不是对问题的概念不清楚,而是很多人已经被松散的论坛管理措施惯坏了,习惯于不假思索地随手发帖,典型的发帖不经过大脑,看看那些“高手进”、“菜鸟求救”、“关于某某的问题”之类的标题,是不是在论坛里占大多数?那是他们不想写清楚吗?他们根本就没有意识到,写个好标题是多么的重要,而一个模糊的标题,会给别人带来多大的麻烦!更有甚者,他们是有意而为之!他们想的是如何把标题写得更加吸引眼球一点:挑衅他人赚取人气、装可怜博取同情、标新立异以显示与众不同……如果各位只是想拿到一个代码之后就转身走人,那么,模糊的标题对你没有任何影响;如果各位还想更进一步学习批处理技术,或者希望参照相关帖子自行解决问题,你是不管三七二十一,一个帖子一个帖子点开来看呢,还是跳过不感兴趣的帖子,直接查看你最关心的话题?抑或是使用论坛的搜索功能,搜索有类似讨论的相关帖子——如果满眼尽是模糊帖,你是不是只能一个一个点开来看?
每个人都不是一开始就是高手,但是,能不能取个好标题,和技术并无太大的关系——不懂批处理而文采飞扬的大有人在。解决一个问题要琢磨半天,不能成为随手发一个烂标题的借口,如果连你自己都随意散漫,你就更别指望别人认认真真地给你回复了,更何况大多数时候,模糊的标题是在浪费别人的时间。
如果不要求大家写个含义清楚、指向明确的好标题,而是任烂帖横行,久而久之,还会有多少人在这里看帖?难道大家都喜欢“关于某某的问题”这样的帖子充斥论坛?看到更多高质量的标题究竟只是我一个人的标准,还是代表了广大会员的心声?
如果你只是希望拿一个代码之后就走人,你大可兴之所至随手发帖,而不用担心别人是否能搜到,更不必顾忌身后骂名永流传;如果你还希望参照相关帖子深入研究,并在搜索的时候恨恨地想:“NND,偌大一个论坛,怎么就找不到一个相关的帖子呢”,那么,请扪心自问一下:我的标题写模糊了吗?
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Originally posted by landays at 2008-10-5 06:28 PM:
Maybe you are a master
Maybe your expression ability is very clear
But if it is a novice, and the concept of a certain problem is not clear
So that you can't clearly express your doubts
I think most people asking for help don't not want to write the title clearly
But they don't know how to write it to appear clear and clear in the eyes of you such masters
Who hasn't come from a novice? Did you not ask for help when you were a novice?
Maybe for you a very simple problem, a certain novice is still struggling for a long time
Don't measure others by your own standards
After more than half a year, looking back at the post I posted at the beginning, I can't help but sigh: There are thousands of forums, thousands of posts, and the successive bad posts are so similar!
I admit that there are some posts with vague titles, because the owner is at a loss due to vague concepts, but, in most cases, the essence of the problem is not that the concept of the problem is not clear, but that many people have been spoiled by loose forum management measures, and are used to posting posts without thinking, typical posting without thinking, look at those titles like "Masters Enter", "Noobs Ask for Help", "Questions about某某", etc., aren't they the majority in the forum? Is it that they don't want to write clearly? They didn't even realize how important it is to write a good title, and how much trouble a vague title will bring to others! What's more, they do it on purpose! They think about how to make the title more eye-catching: provoking others to earn popularity, pretending to be pitiful to win sympathy, being original to show uniqueness... If you just want to get a code and then turn around and leave, then the vague title has no effect on you; if you still want to further learn batch processing technology, or hope to solve the problem by referring to related posts, do you open each post regardless of everything, or skip the posts you are not interested in and directly check the topics you care about? Or use the forum's search function to search for related posts with similar discussions - if your eyes are full of vague posts, do you have to open them one by one?
Everyone is not a master from the beginning, but, can you get a good title, which has little to do with technology - there are many people who don't understand batch processing but are full of literary talent. Spending half a day to solve a problem can't be an excuse to send a bad title casually. If you are also casual and loose, you can't expect others to reply to you carefully, let alone that most of the time, the vague title is a waste of others' time.
If you don't ask everyone to write a good title with clear meaning and clear direction, but let bad posts run rampant, over time, how many people will still read posts here? Do you all like posts like "Questions about某某" to fill the forum? Is seeing more high-quality titles just my own standard, or does it represent the voice of the majority of members?
If you just want to get a code and then leave, you can post casually as you like, and don't worry about whether others can search it, let alone worry about the eternal infamy behind you; if you still hope to refer to related posts for in-depth research, and when searching, you hatefully think: "NND, such a big forum, why can't I find a related post", then, ask yourself: Is my title vague?
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呵呵:
1。标题有字数限制的吧,很多时候想一个又能标识问题又要请动大家来帮忙的语法,相信提问者又要苦恼一番了。
2。高手请进----可能楼主会错意了吧,一般这样写的高手都是一种称呼吧,就像平时看到女的一般叫美女那样,高手可以理解为师父朋友大哥等等!或许是你自己误解了!
3。所谓不知者无罪啊,不是每个人都一样性格和意识的,要规范化才可以让大家有章可守!
4。版主应该以体谅的方式来管理好论坛哦,毕竟人的知识是时间积累学习回来了,没有一个出生就懂的天才吧!
Hehe:
1. There is a word limit for the title, right? Many times, thinking of a title that can both identify the problem and invite everyone to help must make the questioner struggle for a while.
2. "Experts, please come in" --- Maybe the original poster misunderstood. Generally, "experts" written like this is a kind of address, just like usually seeing a woman and generally calling her beauty, "experts" can be understood as master, friend, big brother, etc.! Maybe you misunderstood it yourself!
3. As the saying goes, ignorance is no crime. Not everyone has the same character and consciousness. It can only be standardized so that everyone has rules to follow!
4. Moderators should manage the forum in a considerate way. After all, people's knowledge is accumulated and learned over time. There is no genius who understands everything from birth!
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Originally posted by landays at 2008-10-5 18:28:
也许你是高手
也许你表达能力很清晰
但如果是新手 对某个问题的概念不清楚
以至于无法清晰的表达自己的疑问
我想大多数求助的人并不是不想 ...
哈哈,版主欠缺体谅而已。。。。可能喝多了
Originally posted by landays at 2008-10-5 18:28:
Maybe you are an expert
Maybe your expression ability is very clear
But if it is a novice, and the concept of a certain problem is not clear
So that you can't clearly express your doubts
I think most people who ask for help don't want to...
Haha, the moderator lacks understanding... Maybe he drank too much
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建议 yaogunbasana 兄在本版多潜水一段时间,看看以前的老帖,思考一下为什么那么多真正高手离开了CN-DOS,也许会理解楼主的。
It is suggested that Brother yaogunbasana lurk in this section for a longer period of time, read the old posts before, and think about why so many real experts left CN-DOS. Maybe you will understand the original poster.
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