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[转贴]写给所有学习脚本、批处理的朋友
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原文地址: http://bbs.51js.com/viewthread.php?tid=2051
请不要做浮躁的人
1.不要看到别人的回复第一句话就说:给个代码吧!你应该想想为什么。当你自己想出来再参考别人的提示,你就知道自己和别人思路的差异。
2.初学者请不要看太多太多的书那会误人子弟的,先找本系统的学,很多人用了很久都是只对部分功能熟悉而已,不系统还是不够的。
3.看帮助,不要因为很难而自己是初学者所以就不看;帮助永远是最好的参考手册,虽然帮助的文字有时候很难看懂,总觉得不够直观。
4.不要被对象、属性、方法等词汇所迷惑;最根本的是先了解最基础知识。
5.不要放过任何一个看上去很简单的小问题--他们往往并不那么简单,或者可以引伸出很多知识点;不会举一反三你就永远学不会。
6.知道一点东西,并不能说明你会写脚本,脚本是需要经验积累的。
7.学脚本并不难,ASP、PHP等等也不过如此--难的是长期坚持实践和不遗余力的博览群书;
8.看再多的书是学不全脚本的,要多实践
9.把时髦的技术挂在嘴边,还不如把过时的技术记在心里;
10.学习脚本最好的方法之一就是多练习;
11.在任何时刻都不要认为自己手中的书已经足够了;
12.看得懂的书,请仔细看;看不懂的书,请硬着头皮看;
13.别指望看第一遍书就能记住和掌握什么——请看第二遍、第三遍;
14.请把书上的例子亲手到电脑上实践,即使配套光盘中有源文件;
15.把在书中看到的有意义的例子扩充;并将其切实的运用到自己的工作中;
16.不要漏掉书中任何一个练习——请全部做完并记录下思路;
17.当你用脚本到一半却发现自己用的方法很拙劣时,请不要马上停手;请尽快将余下的部分粗略的完成以保证这个代码的完整性,然后分析自己的错误并重新编写和工作。
18.别心急,写脚本确实不容易;水平是在不断的实践中完善和发展的;
19.每学到一个脚本难点的时候,尝试着对别人讲解这个知识点并让他理解----你能讲清楚才说明你真的理解了;
20.记录下在和别人交流时发现的自己忽视或不理解的知识点;
21.保存好你做过的所有的源文件----那是你最好的积累之一;
22.对于网络,还是希望大家能多利用一下,很多问题不是非要到论坛来问的,首先你要学会自己找答案,比如google、百度都是很好的搜索引擎,你只要输入关键字就能找到很多相关资料,别老是等待别人给你希望,看的出你平时一定也很懒!
23,到一个论坛,你学会去看以前的帖子,不要什么都不看就发帖子问,也许你的问题早就有人问过了,你再问,别人已经不想再重复了,做为初学者,谁也不希望自己的帖子没人回的。
24,虽然不是打击初学者,但是这句话还是要说:论坛论坛,就是大家讨论的地方,如果你总期望有高手总无偿指点你,除非他是你亲戚!!讨论者,起码是水平相当的才有讨论的说法,如果水平真差距太远了,连基本操作都需要别人给解答,谁还跟你讨论呢。
浮躁的人容易问:我到底该学什么;----别问,学就对了;
浮躁的人容易问:学脚本有钱途吗;----建议你去抢银行;
浮躁的人容易说:我要中文版!我英文不行!----不行?学呀!
浮躁的人分两种:只观望而不学的人;只学而不坚持的人;
浮躁的人永远不是一个高手。
Original address: http://bbs.51js.com/viewthread.php?tid=2051
Please don't be an impatient person
1. Don't say "Give me the code!" as soon as you see the first sentence of someone else's reply. You should think about why. When you figure it out yourself and then refer to others' hints, you will know the difference between your thinking and others'.
2. Beginners should not read too many books, as that will mislead them. First, find a systematic book to study. Many people have been using it for a long time but only are familiar with some functions. It's not systematic enough.
3. Read the help. Don't think it's difficult and because you are a beginner, so you don't read it; the help is always the best reference manual. Although the words in the help are sometimes hard to understand and always feel not intuitive enough.
4. Don't be confused by terms like object, property, method, etc.; the most fundamental thing is to first understand the most basic knowledge.
5. Don't let go of any seemingly simple small problem -- they are often not that simple, or can derive many knowledge points; if you can't draw inferences from one instance, you will never learn.
6. Knowing a little doesn't mean you can write scripts. Scripts need experience accumulation.
7. Learning scripts is not difficult. ASP, PHP, etc. are no more than that -- the difficult thing is to persist in practice for a long time and read books extensively without sparing effort;
8. Reading too many books can't learn all scripts. You need to practice more.
9. It's better to keep the outdated technology in mind than to keep the fashionable technology on your lips;
10. One of the best ways to learn scripts is to practice more;
11. At any time, don't think that the book you have is enough;
12. For the books you can understand, read them carefully; for the books you can't understand, read them with perseverance;
13. Don't expect to remember and master anything after reading the book for the first time -- please read it the second time, the third time;
14. Please practice the examples in the book on the computer by yourself, even if there are source files in the supporting CD;
15. Expand the meaningful examples you see in the book; and apply them to your work practically;
16. Don't miss any exercise in the book -- please finish all and record the thinking;
17. When you find that the method you are using is very clumsy halfway through writing the script, please don't stop immediately; please finish the remaining part roughly as soon as possible to ensure the integrity of this code, then analyze your mistakes and rewrite and work again.
18. Don't be impatient. Writing scripts is really not easy; the level is improved and developed in continuous practice;
19. When you learn a difficult point of the script, try to explain this knowledge point to others and make them understand -- you can explain it clearly to show that you really understand it;
20. Record the knowledge points that you ignore or don't understand found in communicating with others;
21. Keep all the source files you have done well -- that's one of your best accumulations;
22. For the network, I still hope that everyone can make more use of it. Many problems don't have to be asked in the forum. First, you should learn to find answers by yourself. For example, Google and Baidu are very good search engines. You can find many relevant materials just by entering the key words. Don't always wait for others to give you hope. It can be seen that you must be very lazy usually!
23. When you go to a forum, learn to look at the previous posts. Don't post a question without looking at anything. Maybe your question has been asked by someone else. If you ask again, others don't want to repeat it. As a beginner, no one wants their post to have no reply.
24. Although it's not to discourage beginners, but this sentence still has to be said: Forum, forum, is the place for everyone to discuss. If you always expect that there will be experts to guide you for free, unless he is your relative! For discussion, at least those with comparable levels can have a discussion. If the level is too different, even the basic operations need others to answer, who will discuss with you.
Impatient people are easy to ask: What on earth should I learn; ---- Don't ask, just learn;
Impatient people are easy to ask: Is learning scripts promising; ---- It's suggested that you go to rob a bank;
Impatient people are easy to say: I want the Chinese version! My English is not good! ---- Can't? Learn it!
There are two kinds of impatient people: those who only watch and don't learn; those who learn but don't persist;
Impatient people will never be a master.
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TMD,EST就是牛逼,不耻下问是我们这代人应该发扬的传统,谦虚谨慎是我们学习的宗旨,乐于助人不是我们应该的,所以说,要学会真正的知识就是要靠自己去努力,靠别人永远也靠不住,让我们大声说 ”努力,来的更猛烈些吧,浮躁你GO OUT吧!“ 纯属灌水,如有雷同,纯属巧合,谢谢 ......
TMD, EST is really awesome. Being humble and asking for advice is a tradition we this generation should carry forward. Modesty and prudence are the purposes of our study. Being helpful isn't something we should do. So, to learn real knowledge is to rely on your own efforts, relying on others can never be reliable. Let's loudly say "Efforts, come more fiercely! Impatience, you GO OUT!" Purely water posting. If there is any similarity, it's purely coincidental. Thanks......
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很老的帖子了,今天仍然觉得有用!
It's a very old post, but I still find it useful today!
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支持一下!
est还是很关心论坛的啊!
Give it a support! est still cares about the forum a lot!
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是呀,人是不能浮躁,看美国校园浮躁得都死了三十多人了。
Yeah, people can't be impetuous. Look, the campus in the US is so impetuous that more than thirty people have died.
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世上无难事,只怕有心人.
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作为刚学p的人,我很赞同。人一定要靠自己!
As someone who is just learning P, I quite agree. One must rely on oneself!
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