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[求助]grub 引导菜单可否有“快捷键”功能?
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例如,类似“一键恢复”一样的快捷键,在开机选择引导操作系统时,只需按下事先预定义的快捷键,就可引导进入所选择的操作系统。在 grub 中是否能够实现这种操作?
若没有这种功能,能否请哪位高手加入此项功能。
在 DOS 分区软件 spfdisk.exe 中即有这种预定义引导菜单快捷键操作,不过此软件的引导操作功能有限,界面单调,有些过时了。不过可以拿来借鉴参考。
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For example, a shortcut key similar to "one-click recovery". When booting to select the operating system to boot, just press the pre-defined shortcut key in advance, and you can boot into the selected operating system. Can this operation be achieved in grub?
If there is no such function, can any expert please add this function?
In the DOS partition software spfdisk.exe, there is this pre-defined boot menu shortcut key operation. However, the boot operation function of this software is limited, the interface is monotonous, and it is a bit outdated. But it can be used for reference.
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grub4dos现在可以通过数字键来定位菜单,然后回车执行此菜单
键盘->菜单
0->1
1->2
2->3
n->n+1
或者楼主说的是启动GRUB4DOS的热键?
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grub4dos can now locate the menu via the number keys and then press Enter to execute this menu
Keyboard -> Menu
0->1
1->2
2->3
n->n+1
Or does the LZ mean the hotkey to boot GRUB4DOS?
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Originally posted by barton at 2007-4-16 11:21 AM:
grub4dos现在可以通过数字键来定位菜单,然后回车执行此菜单
键盘->菜单
0->1
1->2
2->3
n->n+1
或者楼主说的是启动GRUB4DOS的热键?
注意,我所着重强调的是“一键”操作--只需按“一”个键即可,就像某些品牌机(尤其笔记本)里的只按某个特殊定义键即可实现预定义的功能一样。
上述提供的信息里,还是需要两个独立的动作的--+,还算不上真正意义上的“一键”操作。
“一键操作”功能应该还算有一定的普遍意义的,特别是在“自制”一键恢复系统方面,或在一台电脑里安装多个操作系统的情况下,此“一键”操作功能即会显现出极为方便快捷的特点来。
Originally posted by barton at 2007-4-16 11:21 AM:
Now grub4dos can locate the menu via the number keys and then press Enter to execute this menu
Keyboard -> Menu
0 -> 1
1 -> 2
2 -> 3
n -> n+1
Or does the owner mean the hotkey to boot GRUB4DOS?
Note that what I emphasize is "one-key" operation - only one key needs to be pressed, just like in some brand computers (especially laptops) where pressing a certain special defined key can achieve a predefined function.
In the information provided above, there are still two independent actions - + , which is not yet a real "one-key" operation.
The "one-key operation" function should still have certain universal significance, especially in the case of "self-made" one-key recovery systems or when installing multiple operating systems on one computer. This "one-key" operation function will then show extremely convenient and fast characteristics.
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打个比方--
我在电脑里装了5个系统,默认是XP,第5个是DOS,有些时候我需要进入DOS里管理整个硬盘或文件系统。现在的情况是,若想启动DOS,在GRUB界面必须连按5次向下方向键,或按数字键“5”,再按回车键,无法实现“一”键操作。
我听说,一个外国烧友为了检验一个引导管理器,在一台电脑里装了36个操作系统。若为了引导第36个系统,不知道他是不是在键盘上连着敲了半天......
用IBM式的一键还原功能,需要分出一部分硬盘空间做备份,有些人并不喜欢这种方式。而我在给别人装的电脑里,通常需要用自制的“一键恢复”功能进入DOS来启动自动系统还原,不必分割出备份空间,可即便是这么简便的、傻瓜式的操作,那些傻瓜仍然记不住。而实质上,这个所谓的“一键恢复”并不是真正意义上的(还要按回车才完成)。所以,我提出标题所问!
看来,这个难题也许不点能解决!但愿他能够看到!
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Let me give an example.
I have 5 systems installed on my computer, with XP as the default and the 5th one being DOS. Sometimes I need to enter DOS to manage the entire hard disk or file system. The current situation is that to boot into DOS, I have to press the down arrow key 5 times continuously on the GRUB interface, or press the number key "5" and then the Enter key. I can't achieve a "one - key" operation.
I heard that a foreign enthusiast installed 36 operating systems in one computer to test a boot manager. I wonder if he had to keep tapping the keyboard for a long time to boot the 36th system...
Using the IBM - style one - key restore function requires setting aside a part of the hard disk space for backup, and some people don't like this method. And when I install computers for others, I usually need to use a self - made "one - key recovery" function to enter DOS to start automatic system restoration without partitioning backup space. But even with such a simple, fool - proof operation, those fools still can't remember. And essentially, this so - called "one - key recovery" isn't truly one - key (you still need to press Enter to complete it). So, I raise the question in the title!
It seems that this difficult problem may not be solved easily! I hope he can see it!
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假如你把grub4dos仅作为启动DOS之用,一键完全做到。
IBM式的一键还原也只能干一件事。
你想让他能干很多事,又想一键,目前不可吧。
If you use grub4dos only for booting DOS, it can be done in one click. The one - key restore of IBM style can only do one thing. You want it to be able to do many things and also be one - key, but it's not possible at present.
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lianjiang 分析得很到位。一项功能的实现,不是一蹴而就的,它要经受长期的考验,多方面的、全方位的意见提供、分析归纳,以及逻辑上的合理性,美感,等等等等。
一个理发的,不小心把左边理多了,就去修右边的,结果右边又弄坏了,还得再修理左边的。
即使是小事情,也有弄坏了之后反工的可能。小事也要认真对待。
Lianjiang's analysis is very thorough. The realization of a function doesn't happen overnight. It has to undergo long-term testing, provide and analyze and summarize opinions from multiple aspects and in an all-round way, as well as logical rationality, aesthetics, and so on and so forth.
A barber, accidentally cutting too much on the left, then goes to fix the right, and as a result, the right is also messed up, and then has to fix the left again.
Even small things may have the possibility of reworking after being messed up. Small things should also be taken seriously.
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Originally posted by dosfuner at 2007-5-1 02:34:
知道 spfdisk.exe 吗? 台湾人冯绪平编写的,其中的启动管理功能源自开源的LILO,不妨用一下其中的定义虚拟键功能体会一下。
还有,grub4dos 只是 DOS ...
建议先看看grub4dos的说明文件,再发表意见更好些。
Originally posted by dosfuner at 2007-5-1 02:34:
Do you know spfdisk.exe? It was written by Feng Xuping from Taiwan. The boot management function in it is derived from the open-source LILO. You might as well experience the defined virtual key function in it.
Also, grub4dos is just DOS...
It is suggested to read the instructions of grub4dos first before giving opinions.
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知道 spfdisk.exe 吗? 台湾人冯绪平编写的,其中的启动管理功能源自开源的LILO,不妨用一下其中的定义虚拟键功能体会一下。
还有,grub4dos 只是 DOS 下的一个程序,即可以实现在DOS下进入 GRUB 启动管理器,真正发挥作用的是 GRUB 这个东西!我通常的作法是,一旦进入 GRUB,就将 GRUB 的主引导记录(MBR)安装在硬盘上,之后就不必再使用 grub4dos 了。
看来,我们的不点同志是疲于思考开发这项新功能了!
Do you know spfdisk.exe? It was written by Feng Xuping from Taiwan. The boot management function in it is derived from the open-source LILO. You might as well experience the function of defining virtual keys in it.
Also, grub4dos is just a program under DOS, that is, it can realize entering the GRUB boot manager under DOS. The thing that really plays a role is GRUB itself! The way I usually do it is that once I enter GRUB, I install the main boot record (MBR) of GRUB on the hard disk, and then I don't need to use grub4dos anymore.
It seems that our Comrade Budian is too tired to think about developing this new function!
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