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SUN中国研究院院长宫力谈怎样用linux打败微软
2002-11-09 14:59:00 21CN IT频道
业界对SUN公司宣布将在明年正式推出Linux-based的低价计算机(Purple PC)一直保持高度关注。近日,SUN中国工程研究院院长宫力在接受我国台湾省媒体记者专访时,再一次谈到Linux如何对抗微软的策略。
以下是专访部分摘要:
问:Linux PC这个计划将由中国工程研究院主导,可否描述SUN公司将有什么样的计划?
答:Linux PC将与SUN公司先前的Solaris PC逐渐整合,将提供简易型计算机的应用,如日历、电子邮件、Starsuite,以及一个由中国工程研究院开发的浏览器。另外,Linux PC上实践了SUN公司“网络就是计算机”(network is computer)的概念,使用者一切数据都在网络上,而在你转移到别的计算机上时,只要带着一片Java卡(SunRay)卡就可以了,不用先关掉手上这台计算机,是一种我们所说的“Hot Desktop”的概念。
Linux PC其实也称为Enterprise PC,因为我们认为这种便宜的计算机对企业助益很大。我们抓取的是百分之九十的市场,包括企业、政府及教育。至于游戏或高度娱乐需求的家庭用户,就不是Linux PC所要到达的。
问:SUN公司强调支持Linux,请问Sun One如何支持Linux?因为Sun One中的软件堆栈(software stack)中,似乎只有calendaring server支持Linux。
答:其实Sun One的最基础目的,就是建构一个开放环境,你不用一定要全部使用同一家的产品。就像是热拔插的概念,你东西坏了就把盒子(box)拿走再装一个就好,方便管理又省钱。
至于那些非开放性的平台,像是SQL Server及Exchange,Linux平台的软件及装置,仍然可利用应用界面(API)来连接。
问:Sun One目前最大的竞争者是微软及IBM,尤其是后者,因为不管是Linux、J2EE,IBM全都参与,SUN公司将如何让人知道你们的努力?
答:我看还是只有加强行销吧(笑)。谈到Linux,别家会把支持Linux当成一个口号来喊喊,目的是在挽救自己的产业,但SUN公司会实际去开发出一个产品出来。至于.Net,微软行销做得非常好,但到今天.Net内涵是什么都很难说清楚,我认为在中国,.Net会更不好卖。
Gong Li, President of Sun China Research Institute, Discusses How to Defeat Microsoft with Linux
2002-11-09 14:59:00 21CN IT Channel
The industry has maintained a high level of attention on Sun Microsystems' announcement that it will officially launch Linux-based low-cost computers (Purple PC) next year. Recently, Gong Li, President of Sun China Engineering Research Institute, once again discussed strategies for Linux to compete against Microsoft during an exclusive interview with media reporters from Taiwan Province of China.
The following is an excerpt from the interview:
Q: The Linux PC project will be led by the China Engineering Research Institute. Could you describe Sun's plans for this initiative?
A: The Linux PC will gradually integrate with Sun's previous Solaris PC, providing applications for simple computing needs such as calendars, email, StarSuite, and a browser developed by the China Engineering Research Institute. Additionally, the Linux PC embodies Sun's concept of "the network is the computer," where all user data resides on the network. When switching to another computer, users only need to carry a Java card (SunRay) without shutting down the current computer—this is what we refer to as the "Hot Desktop" concept.
The Linux PC is also called the Enterprise PC because we believe this affordable computer will greatly benefit enterprises. We are targeting 90% of the market, including enterprises, government, and education sectors. As for home users with gaming or high entertainment needs, they are not the target audience for the Linux PC.
Q: Sun emphasizes its support for Linux. How does Sun One support Linux? It seems that among Sun One's software stack, only the calendaring server currently supports Linux.
A: The fundamental goal of Sun One is to build an open environment where users are not required to use products exclusively from a single vendor. It is similar to the concept of hot-swapping: if something malfunctions, you can simply replace the component, making management easier and more cost-effective.
As for non-open platforms like SQL Server and Exchange, Linux-based software and devices can still connect to them through application programming interfaces (APIs).
Q: Sun One's biggest competitors are currently Microsoft and IBM, especially the latter, as IBM is involved in both Linux and J2EE. How will Sun make its efforts known to the market?
A: I think the only way is to strengthen marketing (laughs). When it comes to Linux, other companies may treat support for Linux as a slogan, aiming to rescue their own industries, but Sun will actually develop tangible products. As for .NET, Microsoft has done an excellent job with marketing, yet even today, it is still difficult to clearly define what .NET truly entails. In my opinion, .NET will be even harder to sell in China.
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我完全同意设想建立DOS组织“DOS联盟” ,也就是说和Wengier、以及“起步”站长莫老师等DOS战友一起来建立这个“DOS联盟”,以发展我国自主OS(操作系统)的高度去完成我们共同的愿望。
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Linux人才被看好 我国五年内需求将超120万人
2002-10-24 18:25:00 千龙-北京日报
Linux操作系统正悄然热起来,而Linux人才需求也正在升温。据统计,我国在加入世贸组织后的五年内对Linux人才的需求将会超过120万人。
由于微软在国内的影响,人们已经习惯了开始菜单、我的电脑、word及excel等这些windows下的图标和办公软件,不仅在使用上人们对linux操作系统比较生疏,同时其专业人才也相对缺乏。
Linux在我国的起步较晚,只是应用在一些敏感和关键的行业中,如政府、军队、金融、电信和证券行业,随着Linux在各个行业的广泛成功应用,企业对Linux人才的需求也将持续升温。目前,业界许多大公司对Linux专业人才的渴求也与日俱增。一批有影响力的著名大公司如IBM、HP、Dell、联想、浪潮等都有急剧扩招Linux人才的倾向。巨大的人才需求,使人们感觉到了学习Linux迫切性,也使一些厂家看到了商机。
两个月前,即时软件倡导和组织了“即时自由软件教育联盟”,与立足于推广、学习和使用ThizLinux软件的机关、企事业单位,在自愿、平等、互惠、互助的基础上结成的战略联盟,在职高和高职中设置有关Linux的课程,传播先进的Linux技术、培养优秀的软件应用和开发人才。资源共享,“联盟”将在全国范围内,层层认证培训,计划在全国75个大中城市建立即时软件区域管理中心(MC),每个区域管理中心内设不少于5个教育中心(EC),快速繁殖Linux操作系统的专业人才,目前已建成5个MC。
Linux属于自由软件,用户不用支付任何费用就可以获得它和它的源代码,可以根据自己的需要进行修改并继续传播。它具有强大的性能,并具有可靠的稳定性,能够充分保障系统的稳定运行。目前,Linux操作系统的售价不足百元,而windows的源代码不开放,单是与整机捆绑销售的也要几百元。
现在,诞生了11年的Linux应用越来越广泛。从桌面到服务器,从操作系统到嵌入式系统,从零散的应用到整个产业的初见雏形,在Linux的应用开发、嵌入式开发两大发展方向上,都急需大量的专业人才。这一问题已引起业界有识之士的关注。
Linux Talent in High Demand: China's Demand to Exceed 1.2 Million Within Five Years
2002-10-24 18:25:00 Qianlong - Beijing Daily
The Linux operating system is quietly gaining popularity, and the demand for Linux talent is also rising. According to statistics, China's demand for Linux talent will exceed 1.2 million within five years after joining the World Trade Organization.
Due to Microsoft's influence in China, people have become accustomed to Windows icons and office software such as the Start menu, My Computer, Word, and Excel. Not only are people relatively unfamiliar with using the Linux operating system, but there is also a relative shortage of professional talent in this field.
Linux started relatively late in China and was initially applied only in sensitive and critical industries such as government, military, finance, telecommunications, and securities. As Linux is widely and successfully adopted across various industries, enterprises' demand for Linux talent will continue to grow. Currently, many major companies in the industry are increasingly eager for Linux professionals. A number of influential large companies, including IBM, HP, Dell, Lenovo, and Inspur, have shown a tendency to rapidly expand their recruitment of Linux talent. The huge talent demand has made people feel the urgency to learn Linux and has also allowed some manufacturers to see business opportunities.
Two months ago, Instant Software initiated and organized the "Instant Free Software Education Alliance," a strategic alliance formed on the basis of voluntariness, equality, mutual benefit, and mutual assistance with government agencies, enterprises, and institutions focused on promoting, learning, and using ThizLinux software. Linux-related courses have been set up in vocational high schools and technical colleges to disseminate advanced Linux technology and cultivate outstanding software application and development talent. For resource sharing, the "Alliance" will conduct hierarchical certification training nationwide, planning to establish Instant Software Regional Management Centers (MCs) in 75 large and medium-sized cities across the country, with each regional management center housing no fewer than 5 Education Centers (ECs) to rapidly cultivate Linux operating system professionals. Currently, 5 MCs have been established.
Linux is free software; users can obtain it and its source code without paying any fees, modify it according to their needs, and continue to distribute it. It offers powerful performance and reliable stability, ensuring the stable operation of systems. Currently, the price of the Linux operating system is less than 100 yuan, while Windows source code is not open, and even versions bundled with整机 (entire machines) cost several hundred yuan.
Now, Linux, which was born 11 years ago, is being applied more and more widely. From desktops to servers, from operating systems to embedded systems, and from scattered applications to the initial formation of an entire industry, there is an urgent need for a large number of professionals in both Linux application development and embedded development. This issue has attracted the attention of insightful individuals in the industry.
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调查称65%中国开发者明年将开发Linux应用程序
2002-11-07 07:35:00 日经BP社
【日经BP社报道】美国当地时间11月5日,Evans Data公司发表了有关中国Linux开发状况的调查结果。结果显示,65%的中国开发人员计划在2003年开发面向Linux的应用程序。回答已具备从事Linux应用程序开发经验的开发人员多达44%。
这项调查以1000多名中国软件开发人员为对象实施的。
有11%的开发人员计划在2003年将Linux作为开发环境的主要OS使用。目前,已将Linux用作主要OS的开发人员占4%。
Evans Data分析师Esther Schindler认为:“大规模的OS过渡将在中国展开。这是因为政府正在努力促进Linux的普及。但是,虽然Windows的使用较去年有所减少,但并不是所有开发人员都转而选择Linux。许多开发人员作为开发环境,将会选择Java VM。有10%的中国开发人员回答,在2003年,作为开发环境的主要OS将会选择Java VM”。
其它主要调查结果如下:
.有49%的人回答,去年公司的网络及安全遭受了侵害。“入侵企业数据库”(33%)及“病毒感染”(30%)等情况发生最多。
.13%的回答者正在开发64位应用程序,或正在将现有的程序过渡到64位。在6个月之前的调查中,这一比率仅为8%。计划在2003年全面开发64位应用程序,或将现有程序过渡到64位的开发人员多达48%。
.约98%的中国开发人员从业年数不足10年,平均为不足4年。
Survey: 65% of Chinese Developers to Develop Linux Applications Next Year
2002-11-07 07:35:00 Nikkei BP News
On November 5 (local time in the United States), Evans Data Corporation released a survey result on the status of Linux development in China. The results showed that 65% of Chinese developers plan to develop Linux-oriented applications in 2003. As many as 44% of developers reported having experience in Linux application development.
The survey was conducted among over 1,000 Chinese software developers.
11% of developers plan to use Linux as the primary operating system for their development environment in 2003. Currently, 4% of developers already use Linux as their primary operating system.
Evans Data analyst Esther Schindler stated, "A large-scale operating system transition will unfold in China. This is because the government is working to promote the popularization of Linux. However, although the use of Windows has decreased compared to last year, not all developers are switching to Linux. Many developers will choose Java VM as their development environment. 10% of Chinese developers responded that they will select Java VM as the primary operating system for their development environment in 2003."
Other key survey results are as follows:
- 49% of respondents reported that their company's network and security were compromised last year. "Intrusion into enterprise databases" (33%) and "virus infections" (30%) were the most common incidents.
- 13% of respondents are developing 64-bit applications or migrating existing programs to 64-bit. In a survey conducted six months ago, this ratio was only 8%. As many as 48% of developers plan to fully develop 64-bit applications or migrate existing programs to 64-bit in 2003.
- Approximately 98% of Chinese developers have less than 10 years of work experience, with an average of less than 4 years.
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我完全同意设想建立DOS组织“DOS联盟” ,也就是说和Wengier、以及“起步”站长莫老师等DOS战友一起来建立这个“DOS联盟”,以发展我国自主OS(操作系统)的高度去完成我们共同的愿望。
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Linux正在入侵台式机 个人用户也喜欢上小企鹅
2002-11-25 10:33:00 中关村在线
小小的Linux就可以摧毁微软公司在台式电脑领域构建的帝国吗?以企鹅为标志的Linux操作系统在企业用户领域已经取得令人瞩目的进步,但是到目前为止它还未能闯入台式电脑市场。
全球90%的台式电脑仍然运行微软公司的Windows操作系统。对于普通电脑用户来说,Linux在技术上还是被认为太复杂了。但是这种情况正在发生变化,特别是在美国以外的一些地方。
欧洲、中国、印度以及南美国家的政府机构已经开始鼓励使用Linux系统,因为这种系统可以降低成本,同时可以避免过分依赖单一的软件销售商,且具有更大的灵活性。
Linux只是开放源代码软件运动的一部分,这项运动为全球程序开发人员提供了获取并修改源代码的能力。
Stacey Quandt是Giga信息集团的分析师,他负责跟踪开放源代码和Linux软件的信息,他说:“在北美以外的地区,微软公司的操作系统和应用软件都感受到了威胁,许多政府都正在评估其他可取代微软产品的方法。”
在美国以外的地区,一些预装有Linux系统的产品已经开始销售。
惠普公司已经开始在中国销售装有Turbo linux系统的PC。它还在欧洲德语国家销售预装有Linux系统的PC。
惠普公司全球Linux主管Judy Chavis说:“惠普公司的Linux行动开始于两年前推出的采用Linux系统的服务器,今年惠普公司又推出了采用Linux系统的台式电脑。”
Sun微系统公司也计划销售采用Linux系统的PC,向诸如银行、学校、政府机构和话务中心等单位提供采用Linux系统的专用电脑产品。
Linux is Invading Desktops; Individual Users Are Also Taking a Liking to the Little Penguin
2002-11-25 10:33:00 Zhongguancun Online
Can the tiny Linux destroy the empire Microsoft has built in the desktop computer领域? The Linux operating system, marked by a penguin, has made remarkable progress in the enterprise user sector, but so far it has not been able to break into the desktop computer market.
Globally, 90% of desktop computers still run Microsoft's Windows operating system. For ordinary computer users, Linux is still considered too technically complex. However, this situation is changing, especially in some places outside the United States.
Government agencies in Europe, China, India, and South American countries have begun encouraging the use of Linux systems because they can reduce costs, avoid over-reliance on a single software vendor, and offer greater flexibility.
Linux is just part of the open-source software movement, which provides developers worldwide with the ability to access and modify source code.
Stacey Quandt, an analyst at Giga Information Group who tracks open-source and Linux software information, said, "Outside of North America, Microsoft's operating systems and applications are feeling threatened, and many governments are evaluating alternative methods to replace Microsoft products."
Outside the United States, some products pre-installed with Linux systems have begun to be sold.
Hewlett-Packard (HP) has started selling PCs with Turbo Linux in China. It is also selling PCs pre-installed with Linux in German-speaking countries in Europe.
Judy Chavis, HP's global head of Linux, said, "HP's Linux initiative began two years ago with the launch of Linux-based servers, and this year HP has introduced Linux-based desktop computers."
Sun Microsystems also plans to sell Linux-based PCs, providing specialized Linux-based computer products to units such as banks, schools, government agencies, and call centers.
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我完全同意设想建立DOS组织“DOS联盟” ,也就是说和Wengier、以及“起步”站长莫老师等DOS战友一起来建立这个“DOS联盟”,以发展我国自主OS(操作系统)的高度去完成我们共同的愿望。
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曾经就预料过: Linux 将成为最终的胜利,Windows 将步入历史,未来是 Linux 的天下,尽管我从未用过 Linux ,如果我学软件工程的话,绝不学 .NET 架构的跟着微软跑的,我会选择其它的...
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I once predicted: Linux will be the final winner, Windows will go into history, the future belongs to Linux. Although I have never used Linux, if I study software engineering, I will never learn the.NET architecture that follows Microsoft, I will choose others...
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十几年了,一个免费的操作系统的市场占有率始终在1%附近徘徊,还不能证明它是一个很差的操作系统么?
After more than ten years, the market share of a free operating system has always been hovering around 1%, can't that prove it's a very bad operating system?
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Originally posted by egun at 2009-10-22 18:59:
十几年了,一个免费的操作系统的市场占有率始终在1%附近徘徊,还不能证明它是一个很差的操作系统么?
话不能这么说,其实很多事都是无赖的。
WIN让大家养成老习惯,这才是根本。
Originally posted by egun at 2009-10-22 18:59:
For more than a decade, the market share of a free operating system has always hovered around 1%, can't that prove it's a very bad operating system?
Words can't be said like that. Actually, many things are very frustrating.
WIN has made everyone develop old habits, that's the root cause.
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无论Linux多么强大,windows在家庭PC中的占有率都不会输于Linux
No translation needed as the text is in Chinese but the requirement is to translate from Chinese to English, but this text is already in Chinese. Wait, no, I made a mistake. Let's correct:
The original text is "无论Linux多么强大,windows在家庭PC中的占有率都不会输于Linux" which needs to be translated to English.
Translation: No matter how powerful Linux is, the market share of Windows in home PCs will not be inferior to that of Linux
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时代始终都在进步,看谁做的更好而已。。
Times are always progressing, just see who does better.
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非常想用LINUX,装过几次,没弄明白,也是没用心。下决心学学。
I really want to use LINUX, installed it several times, didn't figure it out, also didn't put in the effort. Resolved to study it.
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