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制作DOS联盟论坛批处理精华,已完成内部预览版
一直以来特别想把论坛里的帖子收集起来,然后分类整理、打包制作成电子书。我尝试的制作了一下,远比我想想中的麻烦的多,但总算制做出来了预览版本,前前后后花了我近两个星期的时间。
此版本是从解答室、批处理室六千多个帖子中选出的4200个帖子,筛选的规则是删除无主题、无实意主题、 0 贴 1 贴回复主题贴中小于 4k 回复少于 10 贴,点击少于 200 的帖子,如此剔除了大量无意义的帖子,而有价值的帖子基本上都保留下来了。而我个人的能力有限,没有做分类整理,我希望大家能够共同参与整理出 DOS联盟论坛精华 。此预览版以 100 个帖子为一组共分为 42 组,一人分类 1-2 组是很轻松的事。整理后的数据可以作为论坛知识点的索引,方便检索。具体的分类规则还没有考虑好,此次我想制作两个版本,一个精华本,体积在 8M 以下方便网络传播;一个收藏本,保留所有精彩文章与讨论。具体如何制作大家一起讨论一下。
此版中 css 样式及 javascript 脚本是网上四处借鉴来的,我了解不多,希望有能力的朋友帮忙优化或重新制作一下。再者还缺一张导页图片,也希望精于 PS 的朋友帮忙设计一张。此版中上下页按钮也没有制作,可以使用快捷键快速翻页,对应的按键是:
< 上一页
> 下一页
? 转到论坛此讨论贴
本来昨天就制作完成了,但是有一点问题,只好推到重来。
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http://zhenlove.com.cn/cndos/soft/cn-dos.zip。
Making the Batch Processing Essence of the DOS Union Forum, the Internal Preview Version is Completed
I have always particularly wanted to collect the posts in the forum, and then classify and sort them, and package them into e-books. I tried to make it, which was far more troublesome than I thought, but finally the preview version was made. It took me nearly two weeks before and after.
This version selects 4,200 posts from more than 6,000 posts in the Q&A Room and Batch Processing Room. The screening rules are to delete posts without topics, posts without real meaning, posts with 0 or 1 replies, posts with less than 4k replies, less than 10 replies, and less than 200 clicks. In this way, a large number of meaningless posts are removed, and basically all valuable posts are retained. However, my personal ability is limited, and I have not done classification and sorting. I hope everyone can jointly participate in sorting out the essence of the DOS Union Forum. This preview version is divided into 42 groups with 100 posts per group. It is very easy for one person to classify 1-2 groups. The sorted data can be used as an index of forum knowledge points for easy retrieval. The specific classification rules have not been considered yet. This time I want to make two versions, an essence version with a volume of less than 8M for easy network dissemination; a collection version that retains all wonderful articles and discussions. Let's discuss together on how to make it specifically.
In this version, the css style and javascript script are borrowed from various places on the Internet. I don't know much about them. I hope that friends with ability can help optimize or remake them. Moreover, there is still a lack of a guide page picture. I also hope that friends proficient in PS can help design one. In this version, the previous and next page buttons are not made. You can quickly turn pages using shortcuts. The corresponding keys are:
< Previous page
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It was originally completed yesterday, but there was a problem, so I had to start over.
Download address:
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下来看了一下,发现 无奈何 兄基本上把论坛的精华帖子搬下来了,这份耐心让人感动。
根据初步观察,发现这42个分类是按照帖子ID的顺序分出来的,没有按照论坛的分区来归类,这应该是正式版的努力方向吧?还有很多无意义的帖子,可能是点击数上了200,从而被纳入内部版的吧?有些帖子的内容是斜体的,比较模糊(如下图所示),不知是何原因……粗略看了一下,只发现了这几个问题,有待各位继续完善。
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Then I took a look and found that Brother Wuna i He basically moved the essence posts of the forum down. This patience is touching.
According to the preliminary observation, I found that these 42 categories are divided according to the order of post IDs, not classified according to the forum sections. This should be the direction of the formal version's efforts? There are still many meaningless posts. Maybe they are included in the internal version because the click count is over 200? Some posts' contents are in italics, which is relatively vague (as shown in the following figure). I don't know the reason... I roughly took a look and only found these few problems, which need to be further improved by everyone.
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支持兄。如果将分类的规则贴上来的话,或许大家可以更有目的的来分类整理论坛的精华帖子,减少个人单独整理的负担。
Support brother. If the classification rules are posted, maybe everyone can classify and organize the essence posts of the forum more purposefully, reducing the burden of individual sorting alone.
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RE namejm
谢谢兄帮忙测试,所有帖子只是解答室、批处理室的帖子,其他板块涉及的知识我不熟悉没有收集。我知道还有很多无意义的帖子,但是没有办法,我不希望更严格的过滤过滤掉精彩的帖子,我自己根本无法基于内容分类整理,这正是我请求大家共同参与制作的原因。
斜体文字的原因找到了,原帖缺少 <i> 的关闭标签,论坛的 CSS 样式好像比较好,不影响其他部分。有好多地方显示我并不太满意,而我对于 CSS 所知不多,希望有精通的朋友帮忙重新给完善一下。
RE all
关于内容格式部分,我尽量保持原帖风貌包括自定义的颜色的,还有批处理代码部分做了着色处理,小范围测试没有问题,大家留意一下有没有因为着色导致代码错误的。
所有出错的部分,麻烦告诉我帖子 ID 号以便我修正。
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RE namejm
Thank you brother for helping with the testing. All posts are only in the Q&A room and batch processing room. I am not familiar with the knowledge involved in other sections and haven't collected them. I know there are still many meaningless posts, but there's no way. I don't want more strict filtering to filter out wonderful posts. I can't sort by content at all by myself, which is exactly why I ask everyone to participate in making it together.
The reason for the italic text has been found. The original post was missing the closing tag of <i>, and the forum's CSS style seems to be relatively good, which doesn't affect other parts. There are many places that I am not very satisfied with, and I know little about CSS. I hope friends who are proficient can help improve it again.
RE all
Regarding the content format part, I try to maintain the original post style including custom colors, and the batch processing code part has been colored. There is no problem in small-range testing. Everyone pays attention to whether there are code errors caused by coloring.
Please let me know the post ID number for all the wrong parts so that I can correct them.
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分类规则的话好办,我想每个人负责一组或多组,按某种分类将 ID 号集合在一起,贴上来,我最后统一整理。但是麻烦在于怎么分类比较合理,批处理比较杂,不能仅以关键字分类,这样的话全文搜索就可以了。
关于怎么系统、合理的分类大家多提一下意见。
Classification rules are easy. I think everyone is responsible for one or more groups, group the ID numbers together according to a certain classification, and post them. I will unify and sort them finally. But the trouble is how to classify reasonably. Batch processing is quite miscellaneous. It can't be classified only by key words. In that case, full-text search can be done.
Everyone, please give more opinions on how to classify systematically and reasonably.
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不明白,,只要是好事,我就支持,,
I don't understand,, as long as it's a good thing, I will support it,,
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RE 无奈何:
批处理的帖子,我想以批处理的功能作用来分类比较合适。
比如这样:批处理之系统优化;批处理之解数学题;文本处理;文件及文件夹处理;批处理提取系统信息;批处理之娱乐 等等。不知兄意下如何?
RE Helplessness:
For the batch processing post, I think it is more appropriate to classify it by the functional roles of batch processing.
For example: Batch Processing for System Optimization; Batch Processing for Solving Math Problems; Text Processing; File and Folder Processing; Batch Processing for Extracting System Information; Batch Processing for Entertainment, etc. What do you think, brother?
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RE lxmxn
兄的提议不错,保留如下如何:
系统相关 :优化、系统设置、注册表等
文本处理 :范围比较窄,但是相关帖子较多
文件处理 :更名、移动、删除等文件系统相关操作
扩展工具 :介绍一些第三方批处理增强软件等
异类应用 :一些批处理干的冷门事
每一个帖子隶属于一个分类,但可以有多个关键字标签。
我实在不善于分类,继续期待,使其更细化一些。
RE lxmxn
Brother's proposal is good. How about keeping it as follows:
System-related: optimization, system settings, registry, etc.
Text processing: relatively narrow scope, but there are many related posts.
File processing: file system-related operations such as renaming, moving, deleting, etc.
Extended tools: introduce some third-party batch processing enhancement software, etc.
Miscellaneous applications: some rare things done by batch processing.
Each post belongs to one category, but can have multiple keyword tags.
I'm really not good at classification. Continue to look forward to it and make it more detailed.
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有些东西是很难系统分类的,它可能两边的特征都有点,这就看整理者如何划分了。
Some things are very difficult to systematically classify. It may have characteristics of both sides, and it depends on how the organizer divides it.
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要是用交差分类呢?一定会有很多贴子可能会有如下特征:
涉及了某个批处理技巧;
但它却又是解决如注册表等有强项特征的操作;
但它又操作了读文本分检内容、写注册表启动项等;
还有字符串的高级技巧操作,如统计数据……动态提示、后台工作……;
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是不是可以用交差检索主题词?
如上面的特征: 主题词: [注册表] [文件处理] [……]
当一点[系统相关][注册表] 分类时,显示一些贴子:如1号贴子、2号贴子
当一点[文本处理][……] 分类时,显示一些贴子:如9号贴子、2号贴子……
它们有着交差的共性的贴子,可以出现在不同的分索中,但视觉上重复了。
不知道CHM帮助文件制作里面,能不能一个文本被多次不同的分类索引。
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要不就是只按贴子标题分大类。(含有交差共性的内容很多,就不管那些细节了)
(学习)
当读者想系统的学一下,进大类一篇一篇的看。
(专攻)
当读者找不到某个大类中有自己需要的内容,就用chm文件的检索功能,然后可以细找某个检索词,如:“findcd”……等特殊需求。
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觉得8楼、9楼内容分类比较实用方便~:)
也希望或是由感兴趣的朋友一起提交一些分类的词汇,最后由版主筛选适合的分类词内容,然后选择出合适的分类词汇用之~:)
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What if we use cross-classification? There must be many posts that may have the following characteristics:
It involves a certain batch processing technique;
But it is yet to solve operations with strengths such as the registry;
But it also involves reading text to sort content, writing registry startup items, etc.;
There are also advanced skill operations with strings, such as counting data... dynamic prompting, background work...;
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Can we use cross-searching of subject terms?
For the above characteristics: The subject terms:
When one clicks on category, some posts are displayed: such as post No. 1, post No. 2
When one clicks on category, some posts are displayed: such as post No. 9, post No. 2...
They are posts with cross commonalities, which can appear in different searches, but are visually repeated.
I wonder if in CHM help file making, a text can be indexed by different categories multiple times.
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(Or)
Otherwise, it is just to classify into major categories by post titles. (There are many contents with cross commonalities, so we don't care about those details)
(Study)
When readers want to systematically study, they enter the major category and read one by one.
(Specialize)
When readers can't find the content they need in a certain major category, they use the search function of the CHM file, and then can carefully search for a certain search term, such as: "findcd"... and other special needs.
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I think the content classification of building 8 and building 9 is relatively practical and convenient~:)
I also hope that interested friends can submit some classification words together, and finally the moderator will screen the suitable classification word content, and then select the suitable classification words to use~:)
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RE redtek
我的想法也是,按大块分类,再细的话分些子类,类似于文件夹结构。
然后再有关键词分类,类似于超链接。
CHM 里可以多次索引链接文件,只是不能用软件自动生成,不过我可以尝试写个脚本,自定义生成所需索引。
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RE redtek
My idea is also to classify by large chunks, and if more detailed, classify into some subcategories, similar to a folder structure.
Then there are keyword classifications, similar to hyperlinks.
CHM can index linked files multiple times, but it cannot be generated automatically by software. However, I can try to write a script to custom-generate the required index.
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关于分类,可以借鉴这个网站的方法:http://www.commandline.co.uk/lib/treeview/index.php。
另外,以前一直在看一本叫《Windows 9X/Me/NT2000/XP/2003 DOS 命令行技术大全》的书,那里面的分类也值得借鉴,现抄录如下——当然,这个分类是针对DOS命令的:
一、文件和文件夹管理
二、磁盘管理
三、系统管理
1、屏幕显示设置
2、系统基本配置
3、系统基本命令
4、显示系统信息
5、系统配置管理
6、注册表
7、任务管理
四、活动目录管理
五、网络管理
六、网络服务管理
1、网络服务
2、DHCP服务
3、DNS服务
4、打印服务
5、FTP服务
6、POP3服务
7、安全服务
8、终端服务
七、系统诊断
八、故障恢复
九、系统安全
十、批处理和配置文件
十一、其他
Regarding classification, you can refer to the method of this website: http://www.commandline.co.uk/lib/treeview/index.php.
In addition, I have been reading a book called "Windows 9X/Me/NT2000/XP/2003 DOS Command Line Technology Encyclopedia" all the time. The classification in it is also worthy of reference. Now I copy it as follows - of course, this classification is for DOS commands:
I. File and folder management
II. Disk management
III. System management
1. Screen display settings
2. System basic configuration
3. System basic commands
4. Display system information
5. System configuration management
6. Registry
7. Task management
IV. Active Directory management
V. Network management
VI. Network service management
1. Network services
2. DHCP service
3. DNS service
4. Printing service
5. FTP service
6. POP3 service
7. Security service
8. Terminal service
VII. System diagnosis
VIII. Fault recovery
IX. System security
X. Batch processing and configuration files
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好像里面的图片都没有了。都连接到论坛首页了吧?
It seems that all the pictures inside are gone. Are they all linked to the forum homepage?
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2006-12-27 01:43 |
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